[Theory] The Other Rinnegan

[System001]

shame orochimarue is SUPOSEDLY dead, or maybe madara has kept him alive somewere in hiding to work on a new eye. maybe Madara has given orochimaru the rinnegan and the charingan eyes to experiment with to create rinnegan + sharingan in one eye??? possible?

erm for starters orochimaru is pretty much history the only remains of him are in kabuto why would tobi need orchimaru to combine the SHARINGAN and RINNENGAN eyes into one this makes pretty much no sense at all:flaw:

 

[CudaJoe]

Im new to this forum and I found this thread interesting.. The post where people were asking why Madra was trembling at the last Coffin that Kabuto had. I have a feeling that those who said it was Madra's brother are right.

Where is Madra's 2nd eye? I have a feeling he gave it back to his brother and now they both share one pair of eyes. Madra's brother having the eye probably has the same powers as Madra, therefore know their weakness and Kabuto can use that against him as a Trump Card.

 

[yahyab3]

people i have question didn't the mark of the sage of the six paths come out on naruto during his fight with the kyuubi!!

 

[olatunji]

juubi vs kyuubi and hachibi

can this happen?

 

[3laa2 96]

i really like this thread and it's very interesting
but imagine if sasuke is triking maradra into thinking that he has no idea that he is using him and only wants his eyes, but sasuke is really using him to get what he wants and i think he killed danzo cuz he ordered itachi to kill his clan but he wont kill the other two and he took itachi's sharingan so he can kill madara (but he is making him think that he took itachi's eyes to kill naruto with his full power)
and don't forget sasuke isn't stupid to see through stuff ( but i now he couldn't see through itachi)
am not the author of naruto am just saying what i think is gunna happen

 

[darkenedsage]

For starters i do think the person who claims to be "Madara" is really Izuna, but just like Tobi explained to the kages at the kage summit, the Sage had 2 sons, 1 with his ocular powers "uchiha" and the other with his physical abilities "Senju". i think that whichever Uchica brother, Madara or Izuna, are in the 1st hokages body, because that what tobi explained he must become whole again..... because no single uchiha can be a jinchurikki because their physical limits will not let them and that is also why when sasuke fought Danzo and saw he had the first hokages cells in his arm and that he was sure "he was planning on taking control of the Nine-tails, which is how he Took control of it when Naruto mothers was giving birth. As for the other rinnegan yes he is plannin on putting it in after he uses izanagi to refrom the tailed beast's into the Ten tail so he can Fully become the sage remade in every aspect

 

[killswitch]

Okay, so, I've seen people asking "What happened to Nagato's other Rinnegan?", and I believe that I may have uncovered the answer.

What happened to the other Rinnegan is that Madara is keeping it in safe-keeping. For who? Himself. But why not just implant it right away? He can't just implant it right away, as he still needs the sharingan in his right eye. Why? Izanagi.

The Sage of Six Paths divided the ten-tailed beast into the nine tailed beasts with Izanagi. Therefore, in order to bring them back into one, Madara needs to use Izanagi. This also explains why he only needs small parts of the eight and nine tails. He will take the essence of their chakra and anything else that was sealed, and multiply it (with Izanagi) to create enough eight and nine tails to fully recreate the ten-tails (it's Izanagi, it can do anything!). Then he'll replace his sealed eye with the Rinnegan, restoring him to Sage powers. Almost.

Before he can do any of this, however, he needs to get the other three paths (he has Senju, Uchiha, and Uzumaki. He's missing three). When he get's these three paths, and enfuses his DNA with the missing parts, he will basically have the DNA of the Sage. This is important, as he needs to be as close to the Sage as possible in order to be the Juubi's jinchuriki.

The Juubi is much more powerful than any of the other tailed beasts (as it's a combination). This means that it takes a great power to keep control over it (ie. the Sage). Having the Sage's DNA will give him close to the Sage's power (as simply having the 1st's DNA implanted in them gives the user increased physical abilities, so on and so forth), and with the Rinnegan will allow him to be the ten-tailed host. He can't use Izanagi to recreate the ten-tailed beast until he can get the paths, as if he recreated the Juubi before he could be it's host, it would run rampat and destroy everything.

This theory also answers another common theory. "Will the statue be the new body of the Juubi?" Yes and no. Madara will use Izanagi to reshape the statue into the true form of the Juubi, with the sealed beasts within it, thus giving it the soul/chakra of the Juubi as well.

But wait, he has one sharingan left, and Izanagi lasts one minute per eye. How will he do all of this (turn the statue into the body, multiply the Hachi/Kyuubi, recreate the Juubi) in just one minute? The answer lies in the other three paths. Izanagi is first initiated through having Senju and Uchiha DNA (two of the paths). Having more than two of the paths may increase the abilities of Izanagi, allowing Madara to use it in a larger time frame, and in a large space (not just his personal space).

Now, with "What happened to the other Rinnegan?", "Will the statue become the new Juubi's body?", "Why did Madara only need little bits of the eight and nine tails?" and "How will Madara become the Juubi's host?" answered, there are a few more questions we need to be answered. "Who was in the last coffin?", and "What are the other three paths?". I don't know the answers to these, but at least I've been able to answer a few questions (most likely).

Ultimately, I'd like to ask one thing of you. After reading all of that, what do you think? Ask questions and pick apart my theory, I'd like to see if I can defend it.

Just 1 thing i want to address about your post. You mentioned Madara will use his Sharingan to cast Izanagi for just a brief moment. Madara said its forbidden for the Uchiha clan because the user becomes blind after the jutsu is used. Well dont you think Madara wont go blind since he possess the EMS.

Appart from that the Sage of Six Paths didn't have the Sharingan to use that jutsu. He had the Rinnengan. There was no indication that he was blind in the series or the manga after he used Izanagi to create the 9 tailed beast.

Madara has both EMS and Rinnengan. I highly doubt that if he uses any of these eyes for the jutsu he'll go blind. Just my thoughts.

 

[killswitch]

two things.

1) Kakashi. What relavence does this have? How long did Kakashi wait to use his new Sharingan in Kakashi Gaiden after Obito was crushed, and Kakashi went to kill Kakko? That's what I thought... He used it amost immediatly afterwards with Chidori, and used it to a great perfection, despite never having a sharingan before.

2) We've never seen Madara's EMS with the 'Tobi' aliace. What if he's keeping them in storage, like the other Rinnegan; not wanting to waste them incase such a fight as when he fought Konan would arise. There's also a theory where Madara gave Nagato his EMS, with combined with his Uzumaki DNA to unlock the Rinnegan (I think it makes sense, except for some parts where I poked holes that he couldn't fix, such as "Why give it to a random kid in a war zone?" "Why give both eyes?" "Why not take the Uzumaki DNA for himself?"). And if he did give the EMS to Nagato to unlock the Rinnegan (for whatever reason), then that's why he has Sasuke.

He's keeping Sasuke to himself, giving him the EMS powers, making sure that he's being as strong as possible, all for his own personal gain. He plans to take Sasuke's new EMS for his own and cast the world under Tsukuyomi (the image he portrayd was of an augmented sharingan/rinnegan combo. That could mean that he plans to enfuse Sasuke's EMS with the Rinnegan to acomplish this task).

Dude. I dont know if there was a thread like this before but how did Kakashi get his Mangekyo Sharingan?

Itachi said that it can only be obtained by killing someone very close to you. But we no that a ninja's way is deception by heart but i still would like to see how he gained the Mangekyo Sharingan. Did he kill Rin.?? lol

 

[Shade Dracova]

god theory

 

[killswitch]

i really like this thread and it's very interesting
but imagine if sasuke is triking maradra into thinking that he has no idea that he is using him and only wants his eyes, but sasuke is really using him to get what he wants and i think he killed danzo cuz he ordered itachi to kill his clan but he wont kill the other two and he took itachi's sharingan so he can kill madara (but he is making him think that he took itachi's eyes to kill naruto with his full power)
and don't forget sasuke isn't stupid to see through stuff ( but i now he couldn't see through itachi)
am not the author of naruto am just saying what i think is gunna happen

i agree. He knows Itachi was able to kill off the entire clan by himself. So whoever assisted Itachi in the mass murder he will want revenge against that person. And since Itachi said madara was his master and accomplice he will want 2 kill Madara.

 

[Chief Toad]

i agree. He knows Itachi was able to kill off the entire clan by himself. So whoever assisted Itachi in the mass murder he will want revenge against that person. And since Itachi said madara was his master and accomplice he will want 2 kill Madara.

Yes, you are correct^^^

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

and ToBi's gonna fxck his life up for his treachery lol

 

[FiveO]

Nice theory, but there is a hole. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if Madara uses Izanagi on the tailed beasts to recreate the Juubi, then wouldn't his moon-eye plan fail due to the absence of a perfect EMS? He could replace the eye with another sharingan, but it still takes time to get used to when receiving an eye transplant. Even when he is able to see through the eye, it will most likely not immediately have the EMS. Unless Madara has another genjutsu as powerful as infinite tsukyomi in mind, then his plan would fail immediately after izanagi took its toll on his eye. Again, I might be missing something, but either way, your theory is pretty deep.

I Think That What Sasuke For, Madara Gonna Kidnap Sasuke Eye HeHeHexd

 

[darkenedsage]

i wanna know where it says in the manga that when an Uchiha uses Izanagi that it only last for 60 seconds, as i do recall that was only for Donzo since he wasnt an Uchiha. Also as i do recall when gaining the EMS it does say that the light in those eyes will never go out again...... When Tobi used it on "Paper lady" {forgot her name } none of his eyes closed/light turned off.

 

[DESTRUCTO]

i wanna know where it says in the manga that when an Uchiha uses Izanagi that it only last for 60 seconds, as i do recall that was only for Donzo since he wasnt an Uchiha. Also as i do recall when gaining the EMS it does say that the light in those eyes will never go out again...... When Tobi used it on "Paper lady" {forgot her name } none of his eyes closed/light turned off.

His left eye shut forever, then he replaced it with his new rinnegan. I think SD answered that already in that the EMS eyes are on reserve somewhere else, and uses his vast collection sharingan in their place for Izanagi. The whole thing with Izanagi with Danzou is that his was incomplete. The So6P had a complete Izanagi, where with his body he created something into existence and then with his spirit he breathed life into it.

 

[GodKingJinchuuriki]

um, sorry, but you kinda forgot one really important detail

in chapter 510 konan fighting madara opens a huge sea of 600 billion explosive tags that she said would explode for ten minutes and madara used a single continuous izanagi for 10 minutes

danzo due to not being a true uchiha could only use a 1 minutes izanagi for each sharingan

 

[Sharingdork]

um, sorry, but you kinda forgot one really important detail

in chapter 510 konan fighting madara opens a huge sea of 600 billion explosive tags that she said would explode for ten minutes and madara used a single continuous izanagi for 10 minutes

danzo due to not being a true uchiha could only use a 1 minutes izanagi for each sharingan

no. he can phase through things for five minutes, meaning he only had to use it for five minutes, not ten.

 

[Walfar]

I don't mean it like that I mean when I say just before they died not injuries like if you were old you were old, if you were fighting blind, blind, they can't be brought back mutilated I mean in that sense do you know what I mean.

Neji's dad got resurrected and his byakugan got sealed away when he died..
Still he got his byakugan all working and well when fighting his brother,if i'm not mistaken..

 

[killswitch]

i wanna know where it says in the manga that when an Uchiha uses Izanagi that it only last for 60 seconds, as i do recall that was only for Donzo since he wasnt an Uchiha. Also as i do recall when gaining the EMS it does say that the light in those eyes will never go out again...... When Tobi used it on "Paper lady" {forgot her name } none of his eyes closed/light turned off.

Konan. That's her name

 

[Spartan117]

I don't agree with this theory sorry. As I don't think Sage of six paths means 6 different parts. Like senju, uchiha, Uzumaki and etc...