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I also think that they're the Hokages or at least Hashirama and Tobirama. I made a thread of this a while ago WITH an explanation ( )
 

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Here's a post I did a short while ago.


Now, here's more of the reason why I believe that Izuna isn't Tobi, I didn't have time to post it the other day. It's more of a theory, but it's a theory I strongly believe in. And the theory is, that Izuna Uchiha will be resurrected by Sasuke/Orochimaru (This is all assuming that the scroll carries some type of resurrection technique).


Let's see, I think I will begin with the convo between Sasuke and Tobi after the fight with Itachi.


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In the three pages above, on the first one. Notice Sasuke is relating Madara's words to Itachi's. "You stole your brother's eyes." We all know this is the same Sasuke thought Itachi was trying to do to him, Kishi is obviously making these two events very similar, the older brother stealing the younger brother's eyes, I think this part is actually clear.


Then, Sasuke takes notice of Tobi's emotion, I know many points of views have already been explained on this, but one thing is for sure..Sasuke has gathered; an older brother that wanted to protect his clan, and was accused of stealing his younger brother's eyes whom he actually loved. And then that clan that he wanted to protect, turned against him.

Remember, before Tobi started this history lesson, he said that Itachi wanted to "protect" Sasuke.

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In the four pages above, Tobi basically stated that the Uchiha were deceived, since it was Senju that wanted the peace treaty. He implied that this was their plan to get rid of their competition, and basically was confirmed (At least for Madara) when Hashi became Hokage. And he, who wanted nothing but the best for the Uchiha, was shunned.

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In the last three, he makes it known that their oppression became even more apparent, and that they even tried to rebel, but it was too late. Then the attack happened, and the Uchiha was immediately accused, and we know this leads to them being put down. So basically, in the beginning, the Uchiha was deceived, and in the end, wiped out.

And the only person who tried to stop this was Madara.

I also would like to notes Sasuke's reaction to Itachi's betrayal, "But why? Why would Itachi betray the Uchiha clan." This shows that Sasuke greatly cared for the Uchiha, that even though the Uchiha may have been behind the attack, Itachi should have stood with his clan. This may have been brought on by the story Tobi told.

Also, throughout some of these panels, you can see it appears Sasuke is in deep thought, thinking about what Tobi is saying.

He gets to see an emotional brother that tried to defend the honor of his clan abd brother, much like him.

Now let me expand on this some more. Kishi has made Sasuke's and Madara's role much alike, they both want/wanted to destroy the Leaf. It was just switched from oldest to youngest. They both obtained their brother's eyes, and Madara, because of his younger brother's "sacrifice", couldn't understand why they wanted to live so peacefully, they didn't appreciate the sacrifice of his brother. And with the recent events surrounding Itachi's "second death", he's clearly starting to question everything, whose good, whose bad and so on. He's most likely even wondering if Madara did indeed take his brother's eyes, if he's nothing more than some evil being who desired constant war and power.


Now before I go further, I want to explain why I don't believe its his parents he will revive, I know this is the popular opinion on the base, I too believed it. But Fugaku won't be able to tell him much, he most likely wasn't even aware of Tobi, and telling Sasuke that they weren't behind the fox attack wouldn't change anything. Why? Because Tobi stated that it was just a natural disaster, while Itachi said that it was Tobi's doing. None of them said it was the Uchiha.



Now, look at this page. Juugo says, "The edo tensei of Madara is still around." Anyone can clearly see that Sasuke is shocked. Now I don't believe he knew Madara was revived (Unless I missed something). So now, he knows.



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He then thinks about what Itachi said, "The village may be full of contradictions and darkness " immediately after discovering Madara is still alive.

Sasuke says, "I see...so he's still around." He's already starting to get the idea of speaking to Madara. Tobi himself wouldn't really be relevant to Sasuke, because he already heard it all from him. Also, Sasuke says he wishes to speak to "them", automatically taking Tobi out of the equation, since he already heard the history from Tobi, but wishes to speak to "them" to possibly gain a new/different light on the way history has been told.



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Anyways, there's something he wants to do....he wants to speak to Izuna as well, to confirm that "brother's bond", just in case Madara lies, he wants to know "everything.". He knows speaking to Madara alone would be pointless, he wants to speak to both "founders" of the Uchiha, both brothers. To get to know everything about the war that was going on and so on.


Now, his problem is that he has no way of speaking to Izuna, so he knows he can't exactly speak to Madara without doubting his words. But then, he's given a scroll...

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He says, "This is it....The one who knows everything." He now knows there's a way to resurrect Izuna, and he can now speak to Madara.



Hmmm, I'm going to take a step back, to add more to the theory that the scroll is a resurrection technique, and that Sasuke wants to speak to Madara, which I believe these two things alone adds to the theory that Izuna will be resurrected considering there's another person to be brought back from the dead that Sasuke wishes to speak to in conjunction with Madara.


I begin with the page below, Sasuke is asking himself all kinds of questions, he doesn't know anything, or other words, he doesn't know "everything."

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I added that third page because I think it's funny that just when he's questioning everything, Juugo and Suigetsu busts in, coming with information that may lead to his answers. I'm certain Kishi did this on purpose.


Now, in addition to this, notice how Sasuke is just sitting on a rock, not only was he just so confused and didn't know what to do, but was just kinda sitting there after his team arrived. Where am I going with this? That before they came and gave him that scroll, he appears to have no intentions of bringing back Oro, or speaking to "The one who knows everything."

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Then when you take into consideration about what I said before, his thoughts about what Itachi said after being so shocked discovering that Madara was around, and then says "This is it." AND later says "them". It greatly implies that he wishes to speak to Madara, and another person that Sasuke/Oro is going to revive.


I also believe it would make a bigger impact this way, I mean to have Izuna ressurected much in a way like Madara (which was epic by the way U_U) than to have him just take off the mask and "Oh, it's Izuna."

Should Madara have actually taken his eyes, the meeting between the two would be even more epic (Yeah I know Izuna won't have his eyes). *__*


I'm going to go waaay back before Sasuke left the village, look at this page. Now for Obito..

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If Tobi was revealed to be Obito (Possessing Madara's knowledge) around the same time Madara meets up with them, and Sasuke (with Izuna) meets up with them as well. It would be an emotional scene for not only Kakashi, but also Sasuke I believe. He gets to see who Kakashi was talking about, then some convo between Kakashi and Tobi would be pertaining to "protect" and also peace, and probably the casualties of war, and the meaning of a true shinobi along with the discussion between Madara and Izuna and their history of the shinobi world, mostly during the time when there was nothing but war. And of course, Naruto...

I think this will be the key to open the door to Sasuke's heart again, hearing it all from these people.




EDIT: Will add a little more as to why I don't believe it's Izuna in a moment.



Well put quite simply, I believe Itachi's version of the story.

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There's something I find strange, why Izuna didn't speak up either way when they were accusing Madara of taking his brother's eyes?


I can only think of two possibilities, he was speaking up, letting everyone know that Madara forcefully took his eyes away from him (And this is why the clan said he did).


Or...he couldn't speak up, in which case, still implies that Madara silenced him somehow.
 

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Izuna holds no merit to the story. No character development, and only one appearance. Plus Sasuke needs to hear the other side of the story. He has heard from the Uchiha enough.
 

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Lawl. Sasuke has certain questions he needs answered: "What is a shinobi?", "What is a village?", "What is a clan?", "Who am I..?"

These are all questions the Hokages, who died for the village (Sarutobi), the clan (Hashirama), and the way of the Shinobi (Minato) can answer.

Orochimaru's new scroll is a jutsu to break the Reaper Death Seal in order to re-attain his lost Soul Arms. This will also liberate the Hokage's souls and grant Sasuke a chance to speak to them. This is why Sasuke realized this would be his chance to speak to the guy who knows everything (Hashirama), and why Orochimaru said, "Why do you want to talk to THEM?"

If it was the village elders, there's no way Orochimaru's scroll would suddenly make Sasuke realize this.
This Guy ... It makes Sense ... pretty nice explanation ... +rep dude :)
 

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It's funny how people think the person could be Madara, or Sasuke's parents, or the village elders. All people who cannot answer those questions for him. People don't pay attention to foreshadowing, Jack. Thanks for the rep!
 
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