The one to end all contradictions and so called "plot holes!

Well......what did you think?

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Bloodytaste

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Nagato's body wasnt crushed by a boulder. Oh...and he also wasnt dead.

so whats your point he was a kid oo it would be easy to nearly kill or kill him and controll him fully won't this be more like of madaras plan then letting grow nagato on his own so he that maybe some other influence could destory his purpose? Well i do not think madara would be that stupid to make such mistakes, if done right u take over nagato and not wait for some low lv uchiha u do not even know about anything.
 

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Nice;) good work bro :)
 

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Nice theory, I rep u for putting text on it, though I have always thought it would be like that, however, I believe that Madara started by creating a black zetsu from his fight with Hashirama. This guy then created the white "bacteria", and yet this black zetsu had some sort of memory left from Madara, but just what he needed to continue Madaras plan, after Madara died, by instructing Zetsu to give rinnengan to nagato. Later black zetsu became so powerful that he started to turn a bit from Madaras first plan. He found ways to make himself stronger, for instance he collected new eyes that he could use to make him stronger, and finally he found the perfect vessel, Obitos body.

Obito was dead but only half his body was destroyed. Black Zetsu then split up his chakra in 2 half beings, and he fused one of them with the "less" smarter white bacteria, and he kept all his sencory / emerge with nature - ability inside this part - meaning most of the ability from Hashirama. Since he didn't really have any uchiha blood, this now actually made it possible for him to use the Rinnengan (I have another theory on how Nagato could use them, but wont talk about that now, since it's obvious anyway).

However, at this point Nagato was already too powerful, so he just kept using him, in fact it was his "luck" that he was defeated in the end, and that he didn't have to revive Madara, cause now he could do it all himself. So now he saw the perfect possebility to declare war and become the greatest "hero" (in his own mind) in the history, finally making him able to regain a "personality" so he wouldn't just be some "mutation" created by Madara. Which is also why he chosed to go off from Madaras plan (as Kabuto said to Madara).
 

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Wow, Sakura is really intelligent when you read that first page o_o Well she's been awesome during this whole war!
 

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I pretty much said the exact same in my thread..
 

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Mine just doesn't have a poll & a fancy title but overall it's almost the same exact theorey as mine lol
 

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so whats your point he was a kid oo it would be easy to nearly kill or kill him and controll him fully won't this be more like of madaras plan then letting grow nagato on his own so he that maybe some other influence could destory his purpose? Well i do not think madara would be that stupid to make such mistakes, if done right u take over nagato and not wait for some low lv uchiha u do not even know about anything.

Tobi never expected Nagato to betray him, not after what they went through at Danzo and Hanzo's hands. Dude was de-facto leader of Akatsuki for God's sake.

Also there is probably a huge reason why Tobi chose an Uzumaki boy to harbor his Rinnegan, or rather Madara's Rinnegan. Uzumaki's can do some special stuff with that Rinnegan. For example: Gedo Rinne Tensei can probably only be performed by an Uzumaki, I mean a jutsu that just straight up brought people back from the dead?! Kakashi was in the frikkin after life with his Dad! And then boom, wake up!
Why do i say this? Cuz Uzumaki's have the greatest life force out of all the clans, it is probably a special Jutsu only Nagato could do, thats why his hair turned white..........cuz Gedo Rinne only works with an Uzumaki's life force. This should actually be a thread. anyone wanna make one?

P.S. Sorry for taking so long to reply, I had to move....
 
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this is exactly what I predicted in my thread " zetsu is the mastermind" just not as long and without examples. strong work.
 

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Spoiler within a spoiler. Spoilerception.
 

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probably the most badass thing i've read in quite some time

I think its my best work. thank you!



Then please explain the whole chapter showing Obitos flashback and no it wasnt Kakashi thinking it.

It showed key situations in Obito's life, all the way up to his death. That flasback confirmed that Obito was dead, thats the way I look at it.

So Zetsu is the Flood and Tobi is the Gravemind. Freaky. While it's an interesting theory, I don't know if it'll turn out to be accurate. It seems a bit convoluted, even for Kishi. But hey, it's better than most of the Tobito theories I've seen.

Arigato

Hey dude thanks for the invite,

anyway

Based in your theory i analyzed in details for it and you have a result and nearly 9.5 out of 10 ofcourse, f***ing kishi is a perfect 10/10 'coz it is his works... but anyway KISHI become famous/rich because of us he address his works(naruto) for us (subscriber/fans)
so it is safe to say that as one representative of his subscriber he must also obey us by means of EXPLANATION but KISHI still F***ing LACKS OF IT. The more time it goes w/o explanation the more we pissed but now he is running out of time 'coz i've heard naruto will ended soon while kishi always hiding like a mole technique........

im already lost their dude im pissed for KISHI....

your theory makes sense at all... it is fairly true to come but Kishi still S***s he is a FACT but LACK

Thank you friend, I dont know, I really dont see anything wrong, I think Kishi is still as awesome as ever! honestly!

A really good theory. I like it. I still hope that it is the real Obito. That would be a kind of a what-if situation. Naruto is similar to Obito. Sasuke to Kakashi and Rin to Sakura. Kishimoto shows us the parallels of Team 7 previously and Team 7 now. But this time the "good boy" goes to the dark side. That would be interesting to see. Because what if Naruto becomes evil? Finally he had enough reasons. When he meets Sasuke and both attackted each other, Naruto thought the same. He thinks, therefore, our roles could be reversed. Because we both had to endure a lot of pain. And if we're lucky Sakura dies just like Rin. Just kidding hehe :p we'll find out soon. I can not wait. And again, great theory ♥

Thank you, I hope he is not the real Obito!:D

But obito's memories are still intact from seeing his perspective on kakashi and guy.. Also he is a lot like naruto.. How come he turned so evil in such a short time.!! could it be that his thoughts have been overpowered by zetsu's?? I mean he does what zetsu infused in his body intends to?!!

waiting how kishi goes from here on!!!

Excited!!!

Me too!!

I lightly touched on this previously:

With a further hypothesis:

Uhmm...:confused:

Marvelous +rep
I really appreciate it! thank you
Ive been saying hes related to Zetsu ever since his fight with Minato, where his arm seems to peel off (chapter 503)!!!!

Great thread!!!!

Im glad you like it.

oh i guess it was worth reading it all - make sense + rep
heh thanks!

Nice;) good work bro :)

Thanks Bro!

Nice theory, I rep u for putting text on it, though I have always thought it would be like that, however, I believe that Madara started by creating a black zetsu from his fight with Hashirama. This guy then created the white "bacteria", and yet this black zetsu had some sort of memory left from Madara, but just what he needed to continue Madaras plan, after Madara died, by instructing Zetsu to give rinnengan to nagato. Later black zetsu became so powerful that he started to turn a bit from Madaras first plan. He found ways to make himself stronger, for instance he collected new eyes that he could use to make him stronger, and finally he found the perfect vessel, Obitos body.

Obito was dead but only half his body was destroyed. Black Zetsu then split up his chakra in 2 half beings, and he fused one of them with the "less" smarter white bacteria, and he kept all his sencory / emerge with nature - ability inside this part - meaning most of the ability from Hashirama. Since he didn't really have any uchiha blood, this now actually made it possible for him to use the Rinnengan (I have another theory on how Nagato could use them, but wont talk about that now, since it's obvious anyway).

However, at this point Nagato was already too powerful, so he just kept using him, in fact it was his "luck" that he was defeated in the end, and that he didn't have to revive Madara, cause now he could do it all himself. So now he saw the perfect possebility to declare war and become the greatest "hero" (in his own mind) in the history, finally making him able to regain a "personality" so he wouldn't just be some "mutation" created by Madara. Which is also why he chosed to go off from Madaras plan (as Kabuto said to Madara).

I dont think that even Nagato knew his Rinnegan was planted by Tobi or Madara...

Wow, Sakura is really intelligent when you read that first page o_o Well she's been awesome during this whole war!

She's aight....

Mine just doesn't have a poll & a fancy title but overall it's almost the same exact theorey as mine lol

Okayy...


this is exactly what I predicted in my thread " zetsu is the mastermind" just not as long and without examples. strong work.
Thank you

Spoiler within a spoiler. Spoilerception.
Really?!!

That's a really good theory. o: Very likely. I APPLAUD YOU SIR. +rep

*Soaks up applause* Thanks buddy!


+rep back to everyone as well! I am happy you guys liked it, my day has been made!:D
 

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Does this theory come from Obito's strange answers in #600? "To me, it (the name) means nothing" and "Whether *I* survived or not is not important". Because I came to this same conclusion after reading last chapter.
To me, Obito's actually dead but the parasite keeps his body "alive" and uses his memories.
 

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Does this theory come from Obito's strange answers in #600? "To me, it (the name) means nothing" and "Whether *I* survived or not is not important". Because I came to this same conclusion after reading last chapter.
To me, Obito's actually dead but the parasite keeps his body "alive" and uses his memories.

no, since madara called him obito, i think its a genuine twist by kishi, and the worst one yet, i dont even want to read or watch the manga or anime anymore, honestly
 

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Great work going back and finding all that out even better for you to come post it here :)

I take my hat off to you sir
 
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