The one thing which annoys me about Sasuke.

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This.
People are just too weak hearted for sasukes answer, so they brand him evil.
They can't handle reality.
Narutos way is foolish. It's hopeless.

No it isn't.

Sasuke wants to destroy and rebuild from ground up

Naruto wants to improve upon what's already established.


Just because something doesn't work perfectly doesn't mean it needs to be redone from scratch.

In our reality, what would make more sense? Improve America, or destroy and try to replace it with something might fail?
 

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No it isn't.

Sasuke wants to destroy and rebuild from ground up

Naruto wants to improve upon what's already established.

Just because something doesn't work perfectly doesn't mean it needs to be redone from scratch.

In our reality, what would make more sense? Improve America, or destroy and try to replace it with something might fail?

All those condone corrupted system should be executed in America. If those are the leaders, they have to pay for their crime, so its the same thing
 

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All those condone corrupted system should be executed in America. If those are the leaders, they have to pay for their crime, so its the same thing

I don't think I get your point?
 

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So what mistakes did Sasuke make?

You are just going to say they are nothing but...

Killing Itachi then crying and blaming other people for making him kill Itachi
Attacking gokage
Conspiring with Tobi
Attacking Bee and planned on giving a tailed beast to Akatsuki
Trying to destroy the leaf village
Stabbing Karin when she helped him
 

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obviously, throws a tantrum about his clan getting killed when the village had a legit reason to kill them

proceeds to do the same thing, minus the legit reason, the kages have already vowed to change the system during the war
 

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I don't think I get your point?

To change America meaning all corrupted leaders have to be punished accordingly just as sasuke intending. If you let them go free, there's zero punishment for all the vicious crime they had committed
 

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obviously, throws a tantrum about his clan getting killed when the village had a legit reason to kill them

proceeds to do the same thing, minus the legit reason, the kages have already vowed to change the system during the war

Only a dictator would say there's a legit reason to wipe out everyone in a whole village. Yes a dictator who on Hitler level
 

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Why do you think Sasuke is making this personal?
He isn't. The Gokage are a symbol of the system he views to be miserable and corrupt. So he's going to destroy that symbol.
 

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To change America meaning all corrupted leaders have to be punished accordingly just as sasuke intending. If you let them go free, there's zero punishment for all the vicious crime they had committed

Not every leader is corrupted. That sort of ideology is what starts civil wars.

The problem with Sasuke's revolution is that even if it does succeed, there will still be wars, corruption, evil, etc. To create true peace means changing man's nature, but then a man would no longer be a creature of free will.

Not only that, but if we're going by our own history, then history has taught us that once an empire falls it will never be able to regain its former glory.

So Sasuke's Revolution will ultimately fail in the end
 

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I love how people keep calling Naruto's ways foolish and unrealistic but Sasuke's totalitarian, cutthroat, and downright murderous "revolution" would totally fly in the real world. Sasuke's plan really is the key to long term prosperity Lol
 

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Only a dictator would say there's a legit reason to wipe out everyone in a whole village. Yes a dictator who on Hitler level

then that means danzo is not a dictator since he only ordered the uchiha (not the whole village) to be killed who were plotting a coup which would result in the death of so many via civil war and world war

good to see you are beginning to understand
 

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Killing Itachi then crying and blaming other people for making him kill Itachi
He didn't blame other people for making him kill Itachi. He blamed other people for making Itachi's life hell which resulted in destroying his clan. Do you even read the manga?

Attacking gokage
He attacked or tried to attack Danzo and then the others got in the way. He didn't initially start the first move or try to kill them.

Conspiring with Tobi
He was using Tobi so it doesn't matter.

Attacking Bee and planned on giving a tailed beast to Akatsuki
Bee is still alive and it was Tobi who summoned the Juubi.

Trying to destroy the leaf village
And did he actually destroy it?

Stabbing Karin when she helped him
Yes because this incident equals everything that the leaf and cloud leaders has done in the past. Don't flatter yourself.

The mistakes you listed are miniscule at best. It would have made a lot more sense if Sasuke actually did the things that Tobi/Obito did, but he didn't and his "mistakes" don't compare to what the flawed leaders have done.

I would go in depth but you will not get it so there's no point.
 

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then that means danzo is not a dictator since he only ordered the uchiha (not the whole village) to be killed who were plotting a coup which would result in the death of so many via civil war and world war

good to see you are beginning to understand

First off, you agreeing with danzo to kill off all uchiha. Secondly, sasuke never said he will slaughter everyone in konoha . You assumed he did
 

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obviously, throws a tantrum about his clan getting killed when the village had a legit reason to kill them
You are right. There is always a legit reason to kill innocent children and mothers who have nothing to do with war and fighting.

Why is this base full of idiots?
 

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Not every leader is corrupted. That sort of ideology is what starts civil wars.

The problem with Sasuke's revolution is that even if it does succeed, there will still be wars, corruption, evil, etc. To create true peace means changing man's nature, but then a man would no longer be a creature of free will.

Not only that, but if we're going by our own history, then history has taught us that once an empire falls it will never be able to regain its former glory.

So Sasuke's Revolution will ultimately fail in the end


I didn't say "all" leaders are corrupted. I said "those who are corrupted"

If you look at history, why there's always revolutions and wars?? Because people are screwed up. Does that mean they should do nothing and only tnj?? Go luck with that
 

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He didn't blame other people for making him kill Itachi. He blamed other people for making Itachi's life hell which resulted in destroying his clan. Do you even read the manga?

I do. He blamed everyone for Itachi. He wanted to destroy an entire village full of innocent people. Great job Sasuke.


He attacked or tried to attack Danzo and then the others got in the way. He didn't initially start the first move or try to kill them.

And they're a bad guy for protecting someone they thought was an ally?


He was using Tobi so it doesn't matter.
It does. It's not nice to use people.

Bee is still alive and it was Tobi who summoned the Juubi.

Failed logic. Just because he failed doesn't mean he's a good guy.

And did he actually destroy it?

He sure as hell thought about it for some time.


Yes because this incident equals everything that the leaf and cloud leaders has done in the past. Don't flatter yourself.

The mistakes you listed are miniscule at best. It would have made a lot more sense if Sasuke actually did the things that Tobi/Obito did, but he didn't and his "mistakes" don't compare to what the flawed leaders have done.

I would go in depth but you will not get it so there's no point.

Again, this is horrible logic. Just because someone else has mistakes worse than him, suddenly means he's better than them? Not even half the villains you see in movies and such would shoot their own comrade. Sasuke only cares for himself. Besides, what did Gaara and Tsunade do exactly? They're both fairly new.
 

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He didn't blame other people for making him kill Itachi. He blamed other people for making Itachi's life hell which resulted in destroying his clan. Do you even read the manga?


He attacked or tried to attack Danzo and then the others got in the way. He didn't initially start the first move or try to kill them.


He was using Tobi so it doesn't matter.


Bee is still alive and it was Tobi who summoned the Juubi.


And did he actually destroy it?


Yes because this incident equals everything that the leaf and cloud leaders has done in the past. Don't flatter yourself.

The mistakes you listed are miniscule at best. It would have made a lot more sense if Sasuke actually did the things that Tobi/Obito did, but he didn't and his "mistakes" don't compare to what the flawed leaders have done.

I would go in depth but you will not get it so there's no point.


I 2nd this

Sasuke Mistake wasn't as high as the Gokages,He want to make a more peaceful village then what the Gokages ever did. Having Naruto as Hokage will just repeat the cycle.
 
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