The one armed pirate Minato vs Sharingan and Rinnegan Obito.

Who wins the pirate or the sage?

  • The one armed Pirate Minato

    Votes: 11 61.1%
  • Sharingan and rinnegan Obito

    Votes: 7 38.9%

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KidGamer65

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No the trick to TBB isnt just chakra compression and rotation but also the right proportion which minato doesnt know.

If he didn't know the right proportion then he wouldn't be able to supply Black and White chakra to Naruto's Bijuu Dama, it would have blown up, but it didn't, so he was supplying the correct ratio and he can use Bijuu Dama. Not to mention Kurama can just tell him the correct ratio, so you have an extremely weak argument here regardless.

So tsunade can now use jinton cuz she was supplying chakra to oonoki? Cuz that's what minato was doing, unless you have a scan to prove me wrong.
Dafuq? Tsunade pumping her chakra into Onoki so he can use a larger Jinton isn't even the same as Naruto and Minato combining their Bijuu Dama together to make a larger one. Same exact thing B and Naruto did.


As usual manga disagrees with you.

They were combining their techniques, Tsunade was just giving Onoki power allowing him to make Jinton bigger.

And where will minato teleport? Another place on the battlefield? Constant FTG away from chains isnt gonna get him anywhere, BM limit is ticking. Chains arent slow either and may come as a surprise for minato, obito can use them himself and later add gedo to it. Once caught by chains minato cant really do anything, no user was shown to perform any ninjutsu at that, bee couldnt even transform back to escape. So its unknown if FTG will save him from there.

He'll teleport out of the chains to a place with a Kunai.

lol? It takes a second to teleport out of the chains and you are talking about the BM time limit ticking? Lets be serious here pal. Who ever said all he'd be doing is teleporting away? Oh wait, that's you. He spreads his Kunai and teleports right behind the Gedo allowing him to blow it up with Bijuu Dama.

Or he can go in human mode, and simply get at a position or distance where Gedo's chains can't get him or where the Gedo's chains won't reach him before Bijuu Dama is launched.

It suppresses the Bijuu's power, all Killer B can rely on in Bijuu Mode is his Bijuu abilities so obviously he isn't going to be able to do anything, Minato's Hiraishin is unrelated to his Bijuu abilities so he easily teleports out of it until the manga shows something that leads me to believe he can't. B not being able to go back to human mode while bound is irrelevant as he isn't Minato and his Bijuu Mode isn't the same as Minato's.
 

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If he didn't know the right proportion then he wouldn't be able to supply Black and White chakra to Naruto's Bijuu Dama, it would have blown up, but it didn't, so he was supplying the correct ratio and he can use Bijuu Dama. Not to mention Kurama can just tell him the correct ratio, so you have an extremely weak argument here regardless.
Dafuq? Tsunade pumping her chakra into Onoki so he can use a larger Jinton isn't even the same as Naruto and Minato combining their Bijuu Dama together to make a larger one. Same exact thing B and Naruto did.


As usual manga disagrees with you.
Manga doesnt disagree with me. Minato knows no TBB, in that moment his kurama took over...
He'll teleport out of the chains to a place with a Kunai.
lol? It takes a second to teleport out of the chains and you are talking about the BM time limit ticking? Lets be serious here pal. Who ever said all he'd be doing is teleporting away? Oh wait, that's you. He spreads his Kunai and teleports right behind the Gedo allowing him to blow it up with Bijuu Dama.
Or he can go in human mode, and simply get at a position or distance where Gedo's chains can't get him or where the Gedo's chains won't reach him before Bijuu Dama is launched.
It suppresses the Bijuu's power, all Killer B can rely on in Bijuu Mode is his Bijuu abilities so obviously he isn't going to be able to do anything, Minato's Hiraishin is unrelated to his Bijuu abilities so he easily teleports out of it until the manga shows something that leads me to believe he can't. B not being able to go back to human mode while bound is irrelevant as he isn't Minato and his Bijuu Mode isn't the same as Minato's.
Ofc its relevant, it would make Bee free and useful again if he could do that. Outer path binds even humans, as we've seen the effect the rod had on other humans and even naruto. Naruto could only overpower it with BSM and obito was said to be much stronger at that. So once caught minato isnt escaping.

Kunai next to gedo? Too naive to think obito would allow that. And as i said even if minato goes for TBB from the start Flame Barrier blocks it.
 

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Manga doesnt disagree with me. Minato knows no TBB, in that moment his kurama took over..
lol, now we are just spouting bullshit that has no base. "The other Kurama helping" doesn't mean that he took over Minato's body cause making Bijuu Dama in Bijuu Mode is a dual effort, BM itself is a dual effort.

Ofc its relevant, it would make Bee free and useful again if he could do that. Outer path binds even humans, as we've seen the effect the rod had on other humans and even naruto. Naruto could only overpower it with BSM and obito was said to be much stronger at that. So once caught minato isnt escaping.

Kunai next to gedo? Too naive to think obito would allow that. And as i said even if minato goes for TBB from the start Flame Barrier blocks it.

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Where did I say there would be a Kunai right next to or right behind Gedo? It could be 1km (Not saying it will) behind Gedo and it'd still be considered behind it.

lol what? Now I can't take you seriously. Kaenjin has no feats that let it block a Bijuu Dama.
 

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lol, now we are just spouting bullshit that has no base. "The other Kurama helping" doesn't mean that he took over Minato's body cause making Bijuu Dama in Bijuu Mode is a dual effort, BM itself is a dual effort.
Naruto can make TBB minato cant, kurama did TBB for him. W/E anyway.
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Where did I say there would be a Kunai right next to or right behind Gedo? It could be 1km (Not saying it will) behind Gedo and it'd still be considered behind it.
lol what? Now I can't take you seriously. Kaenjin has no feats that let it block a Bijuu Dama.
Obito is sensor too TBB one KM away wont come as surprise, he can dislocate gedo meanwhile.

Kaenjun has no feats? Obito wouldnt put it for nothing knowing that they have TBBs, naruto and bee dished out biggest TBB they could in hope to take it down. Seeing how all other barriers did vs respectively larger TBBs im sure it can take normal TBBs just fine. TBB has no feats vs kaenjin either.
 
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Naruto can make TBB minato cant, kurama did TBB for him. W/E anyway.

Kurama helping=/=Minato not helping as well.

Even so, how the hell does it make a difference?

Obito is sensor too TBB one KM away wont come as surprise, he can dislocate gedo meanwhile.
I added the (Not saying it will) part specifically cause I didn't want you to say this...

Who ever said it would be a KM away? Definitely not me, so this part of your point is moot. KM away or not, Bijuu Dama travels too fast for Gedo to evade.

Kaenjun has no feats. Obito wouldnt put it for nothing knowing that they have TBBs,

This isn't evidence. I'm looking for real evidence pal, not your assumptions, cause Bijuu Dama is what ended up destroying it anyway.

naruto and bee dished out biggest TBB they could in hope to take it down. Seeing how all other barriers did vs respectively larger TBBs im sure it can take normal TBBs just fine.

They made it that large cause they wanted to obliterate the Gedo and destroy the barrier, not just destroy the barrier. There are no feats or evidence that lets you believe it tanks 1 Bijuu Dama, especially since Minato's would be equal to the combined Bijuu Dama of 5 Bijuu.

The only barriers that have taken on a Bijuu Dama were barriers all above Kaenjin in defensive power, so that doesn't help you here. Who ever said Minato is going to fire a normal Bijuu Dama? lmao, just assumption you made pal.

TBB has no feats vs kaenjin either.

Doesn't need to. We've seen the power of Bijuu Dama and unless Kaenjin has some kind of feat or statement that lets it tank a Bijuu Dama then it can't tank a Bijuu Dama.
 
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I hope people aren't that blind to see Minato was helping Naruto in forming TBB:

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