[VS] The official 7th gated Gai discussion

[Nattana]

Gai has Shunshin of his own

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Well this is one of the last topic i dare have interest about concerning the Naruto manga, so better create a 7th Gated Gai centric thread

Rules

1- This is not a Minato vs Gai thread. I say this in advance before anyone starts childlish insults
2- If you're bias or salty, this thread isn't for you

Goal of the thread

1- Discuss around Gai's overall speed
2- Differenciate the different categories of speed(striking speed, movement speed, reaction speed, shunshin speed)
3- Find common grounds

Short infos

1- Reaction speed

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The reaction speed is the ability that it allows us to react with a certain speed before stimuli, indications or signs. Before physical reaction, the process that take place in the individual since stimulis take place

a- Perception, with the appearance of an excitement in the receiver (eye, heard, skin)
b- Transmission of the excitement to the Central Nervous System.
c- Treatment of the information that would be the step from the stimulus to the nervous system and the formation of the answer (phase of decision if it was necessary).
d- Arrival to the muscle of the sign of the Central Nervous System.
e- Stimulation of the muscle operated by the Central Nervous System and the appearance of the movement.

2- Striking or attacking speed

Attack speed is the frequency at which someone performs basic attacks and are displayed as "attacks per second." Attack speed caps at 2.5 attacks per second, or 1 attack every two fifths of a second (0.4 seconds).

3- Movement speed

Movement speed is a statistic that represents the rate at which someone travels across a map. One movement speed point translates to one distance unit traveled per second

4- Shunshin speed

By using the Shunshin, a ninja can move short to long distances at an almost untraceable speed. It is accomplished by using chakra to temporarily vitalise the body and move at extreme speeds. The amount of chakra required depends on the overall distance and elevation between the user and the intended destination.

Now let the debate begin

1. striking speed - 6 gates guy can use Asakujaku attack where Guy´s punches are so fast, they are set ablaze by sheer speed and friction which in turn creates a peacock-like fan of flames around the opponent.

So he have so far best stricking speed (that is only 6 gate)(hirudora is also too fast)

2. movement speed -not sure but 8 gates Guy have fastest movement speed thats for sure.

3. Shunshin speed - top 5 for sure. (see reaction speed part )

4 reaction speed - he saved Kakashi from TSB . Tsb was fired first, then guy had to react and then save Kakashi.
So his reaction speed and shunshin is also great.

Spoiler

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[Bronze]

You didn't really establish any of your points regarding 7th Gate Gai's capacity.

 

[Unorthodox]

Im agreeing with yd's post your taking things to literally especially with nurons and shit like that

 

[Bogard]

You didn't really establish any of your points regarding 7th Gate Gai's capacity.

Because it wasn't the goal of the opening post lol. It's an open discussion thread. I just posted the definition of the different categories of speed in the opening posts as a reminder and depending on the replies, i'd make my arguments, assuming guys have the guts to put up arguments, that's it

 

[Beans2]

Let me ask what makes this thread official?

 

[Bogard]

Let me ask what makes this thread official?

Maybe because it was random

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[TRE MERCER]

Elaborate on this

Name one character that can't react to someone just as fast as them?​

 

[TRE MERCER]

It's always amusing when little kids display the inability to read my posts.

Did you ever say that 7th gate Gai can blitz Juubito?​

 

[pateuvasiliu]

It's not bad writing, you fail to understand the difference between striking speed and movement speed. Minato still needs to strike after teleporting, his attack isn't instant.

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His striking speed here was so fast Obito could not even register it and activate Kamui.

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Then he does the same thing 2 seconds after.

Yet in the War Arc he's slow, for some reason. Why couldn't he do literally the same thing, teleport and instantly blow them up? Because plot/bad, inconsistent writing. To make things worse, he was also using Sage Mode and KCM which should make him even faster.

A KCM Naruto went from average speed to being faster than V2 Ay.

A KCM Minato with Sage Mode and FTG was somehow slower than he was in his base form.

Face it, Kishi ****ed up.

 

[-Akuma-]

No maybe you're just overrating Minato's feats here....Just because a 13 year old Obito couldn't react doesn't mean everyone else shouldn't be able to.

 

[KidGamer65]

Did you ever say that 7th gate Gai can blitz Juubito?​

Nope.

 

[TRE MERCER]

That Obito was 13 there is no reason to believe he was as fast or had the same reaction time as 1Ms Obito. (Akatsuki version)​

 

[pateuvasiliu]

That Obito was 13 there is no reason to believe he was as fast or had the same reaction time as 1Ms Obito. (Akatsuki version)​

Okay. What about Ay, then? When Minato meets him he's about to blitz the f- out of him and there was nothing Ay could do. Luckily Bee saved him ( which is again bad writing as Ay is faster and Minato was flying through the air all fabulous instead of doing what he did with Obito ).

The point isn't that they react or not, it's that Minato has shown striking speed on par with teleportation.But when the plot calls for it, suddenly his striking speed is much slower than his movement speed.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Okay. What about Ay, then? When Minato meets him he's about to blitz the f- out of him and there was nothing Ay could do. Luckily Bee saved him ( which is again bad writing as Ay is faster and Minato was flying through the air all fabulous instead of doing what he did with Obito ).

Ei isn't the fastest guy out here neither is his reaction time so once again No. Ei is faster than Minato in foot speed only Sasuke was able to track his v2 strikes but not his speed. Plus was that even v2 Ei did he even have v2 back then?​

The point isn't that they react or not, it's that Minato has shown striking speed on par with teleportation.But when the plot calls for it, suddenly his striking speed is much slower than his movement speed.

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[pateuvasiliu]

He teleports and his hand's on Obito.

He doesn't have to swing it back or anything, the second he teleported his hand was on his chest. That does make his handspeed equal to his footspeed.

Ei isn't the fastest guy out here neither is his reaction time

Nygga he dodged Amaterasu.

 

[TRE MERCER]

He teleports and his hand's on Obito.

He doesn't have to swing it back or anything, the second he teleported his hand was on his chest. That does make his handspeed equal to his footspeed.

He teleported on Obito no movement was required there.​

Nygga he dodged Amaterasu.

So what????? Once again that was v2 Ei can we even be sure he was in v2 when he fought Minato?​

 

[pateuvasiliu]

He teleported on Obito no movement was required there.

So why didn't he do the same against say.. Madara?

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In this scan when his kunai breaks why doesn't he just zap to another instead of losing his hand like a chump?

Bad. Writing.

 

[TRE MERCER]

So why didn't he do the same against say.. Madara?

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In this scan when his kunai breaks why doesn't he just zap to another instead of losing his hand like a chump?

Bad. Writing.

That was Obito and simply because Obito striking speed is faster than Minato's reaction time. Ftg is only as great as the user reaction time.​

 

[Oblivionx]

It's always amusing when little kids display the inability to read my posts.

oh please somebody debug this for me...!

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