The Nerf is Real!

[Natsu Shazneel]

Great thread Micheal! As always you make some gems.

Spoiler

There's something you have to understand about Naruto. Actually no one ever thinks of this and gives him his proper credit. But he's the only character to fight all of his fights without trying to kill his opponents. The closest he came was during the Pein fight but even then wasn't trying to kill him in the end.

So it's not really that he's being nerfed so much as that he never fights with killing intent. So you'll never see him in any given point put his "all" into an attack. He fights to outlast you not to defeat you. He's just a different kind of fighter

Ok.....who has naruto killed........and what fight has he been in where there weren't moral implications? Every fight he was in had a bigger moral implication it was trying to address....that's kind of what the story was about :/

And btw....not fighting with killing intent does not mean you are constantly thinking "omg I can't kill him!" Your main objective just isn't to take your opponents life. He has never tried to kill anyone in that aspect. Unless it was indirectly via tnj

Well I mentioned the Pein situation, and considering he was briefed on the Pein's kind of does make me feel like he knew they weren't alive maybe?

And Lol why is it that every time killing intent is brought up people jump to "he wasn't holding back!" I'm sorry I guess I should've clarified. He never makes it a point to kill anyone who gets in his way. Yea he'll go all against Orochimaru to defend his friends.

He'll go all out against Pein to protect his village (note that he also went and talked to Nagato rather than trying to kill him....which was my point) and he'll go all out against Kakuzu....again to protect his friends. I was just saying he's not like an avenger with blood lust on his mind. He's never fought and finished a battle making it a point to kill his enemies. He's more often than not tried to reason with them in the end

So in the case of him being "nerfed" I think it's more of a matter of him not trying to come out and pummel his enemies. He'll go all out if you try to harm his comrades but that's far from being a killer dont ya think mam? Which btw, protecting your loved ones is a moral implication. That's a staple in like every Naruto fight

These three posts are my favorite so far. This is a perfect summary of Naruto's character. The more I know about him the more I realize how he is not like Goku.

 

[Retsu]

I agree all the way, I don't know why kishi gives him all these feats and capabilities only for him to go back to the basics, he dodged raikage with pure speed while sasuke couldn't even visually keep up with him, he casually deflected 5 point blank tbb's, used abilities from every bijuu, yet in gaiden he pretty much did nothing, I'd love to see an unrestricted Naruto. If anything just to break up the monotony of his fights. Hope he surprises me with something from boruto and it'd be nice if he could utilize bijuus and tsb's again.

 

[Nagi]

What's also interesting is that he didn't kill him. I never said he was holding back. He put his all in it to stop Kakuzu. But he didn't personally make sure he finished the job. He was always fine, in any of his fights, if the enemy was just no longer a threat. He never tried to kill them. Though he had MANY chances to with a few. Fact Kakuzu was still alive and Naruto didn't even notice, he was just glad it was over.

I keep telling yall Sasuke wouldn't be an avenger if he hadn't killled his brother, Danzo, Darui, the samurai, etc. That's killing intent. Naruto never had that. You know this. He's not supposed to. It contradicts the story.

Of course I know this. plot also made sure somebody else get their hands bloody so Naruto can keep his hands clean. In people's eyes, we don't trust a hero who never had blood on their hands. Naruto is the only manga that everybody always screaming "Plot".

But some of the naruto's lawyers always want to say naruto was holding back in all his fights. Shit is terrible.

 

[Blackzoro]

That is possible because it could've weakened Naruto, but still Naruto didn't show much at all in the entire fight. His weakness didn't last for the full fight obviously, so why didn't he even use that strength later on especially when that was the only thing going to work on Momo and they were supposed to go all out. His hits seemed to be on par with Sasuke even when he tried max, and I can't understand why.

Speaking of the movie, I really liked when Naruto punched Momo down to the ground hard after Sasuke lifted him up with Lee style kicks.



Sasuke can equal his physical strength with Deva Path's repulsion powers for enhanced impact. Nerf is not required for that. Stop being stupid.

Lmao? 4 tails kyuubi naruto withstood shinra tensei lol nice try

 

[Narutp1sasuke2 LetsGo]

I can't deny these facts ? z kik

 

[The Demon Hawk]

No they are not. If it were, that would mean he picks fights. Naruto doesn't pick fights. He is always defending either himself, and most of the time a mulitude of people supposedly there to help him, sometimes just them. And he still has time to try to save the enemy and kill no one. That's the story of Naruto Uzumaki it's that simple.

Which means he's not nerfed. He just strong. He'll kill someone if he set his mind to it. He's not ferocious to just take a life even if he could. So you're never going to see him just straight wreck someone like you feel he can with his powers. It's against the point of the story

He fought nearly every villain with killing intent. Just at the end of the fight, he changes his mind. How does that alter his intention for the rest of the fight?

He only decided not to kill Pain at THE VERY END. His entire fight was with killing intent.