[Theory] The Mystery that is still : obito, Madara and the Masked man "Tobi"

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LOL what a waste of time trying to respond.

if tobidara controlled the mist at the time of rins death then howd he get in obitos body!?!? obito was already fixed up for like a year.
the white part may be a shirt it doesnt turn black when madara controlled him the first rt attempt
 

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MY GOD! This is about the 5th time I've seen this by Minamoto.. does he lie awake at night reposting this in? Does he post this in his sleep? Is he even human or is he a theory that circulates the air.. the real people sat here like me that are answering this, may never know ;)
He has transcended humanity and evolved into a post!! (probably pokemon style since pokemon fandom is fitting of his type). :p
 

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MY GOD! This is about the 5th time I've seen this by Minamoto.. does he lie awake at night reposting this in? Does he post this in his sleep? Is he even human or is he a theory that circulates the air.. the real people sat here like me that are answering this, may never know ;)
He has transcended humanity and evolved into a post!! (probably pokemon style since pokemon fandom is fitting of his type). :p

wow dude looks like you got the MAGIC!....and dont worry i wrote the thread in like one houre and half..
 

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wow dude looks like you got the MAGIC!....and dont worry i wrote the thread in like one houre and half..

One and a half hours well spent.

Your theory is a good one.
LYING TIME IS OVER.

I have a head.
 

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xD lol
tobidara wheeerrreeee aaaaarrrreeeee yyyoooouuuuu!!???????
its ok the longer he spends making stuff up the better off the world is while hes kept busy
 

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Frankly, watching you bash other people's opinions to your thread just hurts your whole theory in general.

If you're going to post a theory (which btw, you've posted 9 times it seems) you should show some people respect when they disagree with your or else you might as well stop making theories altogether. A majority of people will disagree with your theories because we all have our opinions, but when you continuously shame others for not accepting what you write, well, you're going nowhere.

The more I thought about this the less likely this can be true. You show evidence to try and support your claims, but from the threads you've written you've used a majority of your panels as proof incorrectly or misinterpreted them altogether. It's a unique theory, I will give you that, but it really lacks any evidence besides speculation and misinterpretations.

Good luck with your theory, if it pans out, it pans out.
 

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So, the OP is still getting soloed. I like it. Lol
 

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you still haven't answered my question about which was if there is a 2nd Madara and always has been, then whats the point of black Zetsu controlling Obito?

I will leave you with a saying "Even a blind squirrel sometimes finds a nut"
 

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Sorry man but regardless of how much text you wasted posting this, I still have to say, you are retarded.

Tobi is Obito + Zetsu.

Madara is Madara.

It's been revealed and explained, we even got a series of ****ing fillers to add more to what was already confirmed. If you're still in denial, get over it, go read another manga.
 

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One and a half hours well spent.

Your theory is a good one.
LYING TIME IS OVER.

I have a head.

when me look like badass...my enemies will fell si dunba$$..so when tobidara gets revealed remember me...laughting at your stuuuuuuu...y !!!
 

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when me look like badass...my enemies will fell si dunba$$..so when tobidara gets revealed remember me...laughting at your stuuuuuuu...y !!!

learn to type, go see therapist for your delusions, and stop posting the same bunked thread over and over again.

I highly recommend that nobody else posts in his threads so they can get pushed back enough pages that we will never have to see them again.
 

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when me look like badass...my enemies will fell si dunba$$..so when tobidara gets revealed remember me...laughting at your stuuuuuuu...y !!!

Like I said, acting like this will only further hurt your theory and make you seem less reliable.

OT: I still want to know the real significance of a second Madara (which you fail to answer at all). What is the point in this whole thing that Tobi is actually Madara? You say it is to show that illusions are just that, but then what would have been the whole point of enacting the IT? It is highly doubtful that Kishi would waste so much time with this war arc only to spontaneously show us that there were two Madaras. It just doesn't add up and does not fit where we are and how the manga is progressing.

I'd like to know what the real role of a second Madara is at this moment or even after the war.
 

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Like I said, acting like this will only further hurt your theory and make you seem less reliable.

OT: I still want to know the real significance of a second Madara (which you fail to answer at all). What is the point in this whole thing that Tobi is actually Madara? You say it is to show that illusions are just that, but then what would have been the whole point of enacting the IT? It is highly doubtful that Kishi would waste so much time with this war arc only to spontaneously show us that there were two Madaras. It just doesn't add up and does not fit where we are and how the manga is progressing.

I'd like to know what the real role of a second Madara is at this moment or even after the war.

-Madara didn't die in fact but kept alive inside obito controlling him...during the 5 kages summit tobimadara gave us a general idea of his reall plan...wich is to go back to his formerself (revive his reall vessel who is rikudo madara )...then become juubi's jinchuriki..however Madara's plan didn't go as planned due to kabuto edotensing the other madara...madara was surprised how kabuto rejuveniled his body..then when edomadara joined obito in battlefield...plzz watch anime episode 343...and notice how madara was reluctant and hesitant to call "obito" with his name(thats becuz madara didnt expect to meet the obito part of tobi..he expected to meet his other part tobidara)...then when edomadara asked obito why he didn't capture 9 tails and 8 tails and put them in gedo mazo...obito seemed like he doesn't know what madara was talkin about ..then obito suddenly freezed..his arm autohealed..madara looks at obito's arm and says :"well knowing its YOU...there's probably something that you are planing"..edoMadara was clearly talking with another persona that was controlling obito...and letting obito act by his free will was part of that plan...if just kabuto didn't ressurect edomadara...we would'nt have the obito reveal, but instead tobidra..to sum it up..kabuto's resurecting madara delayed the tobidara reveal..

-black zetsu's role is to work as spy and gather info for akatsuki..he can't take down obito..he only did that when obito was weakned ...and when edomadara used chakra rodes...and if edomadara wasn't ressurected..the black zetsu would never attempt take down obito or dare make him revive madara...that is why madara left his other part tobidara and sealed himself within obito..

sorry for the bad english...and plz be nice to me...also i can't reply you back cuz if i keep posting many replies my thread will get closed...pm me better

but if i keep posting too many replies my thread will be closed no?..
 

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you on drugs. why didnt tobidara (ppffffhhtttt!!) take control of obito and revive him earlier? i thought you said spiral was inside obitos body and had jumped offf him and put tobidara in him but you were wrong. lol
 

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Sorry, but none of that makes any sense.

Like I stated, I've read most of your other threads and you've taken a lot of the context of the manga and either twisted it somehow or misinterpreted it altogether. You need to realize that when Madara was surprised when he was awakened because he didn't know anyone knew his secret (i.e. that he awakened the Rinnegan), not because he thought Kabuto knew he was the real Madara and that Obito/Tobi is the "second" Madara. Also, I really think you're reading WAY too much into what he's writing and really taking them literally, when they're mer metaphors. Just because Madara said "knowing its YOU" doesn't mean he was talking to someone else or that he was acknowledging anyone besides the person by his side, Obito.

Again, you haven't really given any solid evidence to back up your claim and any evidence you have given is just mer speculation and complete misinterpretation. I have really yet to see any solid evidence (i.e. manga panels) that illustrate any proof of what you're trying to say. All you keep saying is words without anything to back them up. Trust me, I've seen and read what you've read, but until you can show solid manga panels that what you're saying is real, well, the theory is bunked.

Also, if you're going to show us panels to prove a point, use ones that actually make sense. You use a lot of them incorrectly and it just further shows that the theory you're trying to make everyone listen to is farfetched.

You're gonna go nowhere with this until you provide solid and reliable evidence, not just speculations.
 

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Sorry, but none of that makes any sense.

Like I stated, I've read most of your other threads and you've taken a lot of the context of the manga and either twisted it somehow or misinterpreted it altogether. You need to realize that when Madara was surprised when he was awakened because he didn't know anyone knew his secret (i.e. that he awakened the Rinnegan), not because he thought Kabuto knew he was the real Madara and that Obito/Tobi is the "second" Madara. Also, I really think you're reading WAY too much into what he's writing and really taking them literally, when they're mer metaphors. Just because Madara said "knowing its YOU" doesn't mean he was talking to someone else or that he was acknowledging anyone besides the person by his side, Obito.

Again, you haven't really given any solid evidence to back up your claim and any evidence you have given is just mer speculation and complete misinterpretation. I have really yet to see any solid evidence (i.e. manga panels) that illustrate any proof of what you're trying to say. All you keep saying is words without anything to back them up. Trust me, I've seen and read what you've read, but until you can show solid manga panels that what you're saying is real, well, the theory is bunked.

Also, if you're going to show us panels to prove a point, use ones that actually make sense. You use a lot of them incorrectly and it just further shows that the theory you're trying to make everyone listen to is farfetched.

You're gonna go nowhere with this until you provide solid and reliable evidence, not just speculations.


cool youve officialy become his enemy!!! now he'll call you a h8ter lol
 

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-Madara didn't die in fact but kept alive inside obito controlling him

I'd like to see where in the manga it illustrates Madara went inside Obito to keep himself alive and control him?

Because this right here never happened and I doubt you're the only one that saw it...lawl.
 

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I'd like to see where in the manga it illustrates Madara went inside Obito to keep himself alive and control him?

Because this right here never happened and I doubt you're the only one that saw it...lawl.

It could be Spiral Zetsu.
 

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I'd like to see where in the manga it illustrates Madara went inside Obito to keep himself alive and control him?

Because this right here never happened and I doubt you're the only one that saw it...lawl.

two weeks ago he said tobidara was inside obitos arm. then he said spiral was inside obito, and jumped off him with tobidara. but it was yamato inside spiral lol. he was so adamant.
 

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It could be Spiral Zetsu.

so spiral was inside obito... jumped off him at some point (minamoto said it was when gedo came out of obito)...went all the way to the hideout to get yamato and a coat because it was cold and came back?!?!? hmhm
 
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