[Theory] The Mystery that is still : obito, Madara and the Masked man "Tobi"

[KRZYNASTY]

It just doesn't seem logical for Kishimoto to pull something like this so close to the end of the whole manga.

What is troubling more is that after actually going back and reading over his OP, it doesn't have the slightest concrete evidence to support the claim that there are in fact 2 Madaras and that Tobi wasn't in fact Obito. All I saw when reading the thread was a whole bunch of areas that were misinterpreted to fit this theory of his. Heck, the last panel shown is of Kisame stating "the "insides" are surprisingly good." How can that remotely be used to back up this claim?

After giving this a real read through I came to the conclusion that the theory is, well, wack.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Hello, No.

The Secrets of Madara's body is the Uchiha Senju thing. Zetsu's did all the stuff Madara couldn't.

Have fun being ridiculed again.

 

[Angelic.]

the insides was reffering to spiral zetsu with yamato. so FAIL

 

[Rohan]

Some points that you showcase actually make sense as there is no valid explanation to them. It also seems that Spiral Zetsu and Black Zetsu and your so-called tobidara were created to control and influence Obito.

Obito was a backup in case Nagato betrayed them in reviving Madara. But, at the same time, Obito was a threat to the Infinite Tsukuyomi plan in case he changed his mind (Which Happened), because he has the Sharingan. There is a possibility that the Sharingan is immune to the effects of Infinite Tsukuyomi . This is why the Uchiha clan was destroyed by the influence of Obito (Under Madara's control according to you).

Currently, Obito has both his sharingan back and Black Zetsu is trying to control him because he is a huge threat to the plan. In the end, your Theory raises some unanswered questions but at the same time, the possibility of it happening is low.

Madara already had Black Zetsu, his will who might have influenced Madara's revival. So, a Third Madara would have been pointless.

In the end, + Rep for effort.

 

[UnknownJin]

i like threads like this, good writing. tbh, ur writing is leading to truh... but kishi and more anime/writes are dumb to make smth interesting like this

 

[Flakez]

Man... you'll never give up, huh?

 

[Draxus]

The real Geniuses dont Debate, they just Know.

What? You can't win over people by making illogical sayings.

Well I should say that. The OP has a sever lack of logic and it was able to sway you. However that speaks more about you then it does the poster.

 

[minamoto]

my favorite theory

thx bro....

 

[Uchiha Samater]

this is like the umpteenth time you have tried to force this extremely weak, and rebuked theory

oh well let me depart with the following words

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

 

[ThousandLegs]

I have a very simple question......

if there are 2 Madaras then what's the point of black Zetsu........

 

[SixPathsOfTobi]

tobibama. LOL madara wants to take away our guns aka chakra....

indeed through mind control, gubernare mente, government.

 

[Mikoto]

This is what happens when a person is born with too few chromosomes. OP, you're taking everything said in the manga literally. If someone says "I have the world in the palm of my hand," that does not mean that person is an enormous man who can survive in the vacuum of space and is now carrying the earth in his gigantic hands. Sometimes things people say mean two different things or even several different things. *Stamps "rejected" on OP's forehead. Sends him back to fourth grade so he can learn what a double entendre means.

 

[ministerC4]

I see that this is kinda flawed on parts(madara and the stone) but I agree with you, this could easily be a correct theory, I dont understand why the members are being so nasty. But While I believe in your theory I just dont think kishi is this deep he's never been. With that being said I see this highly unlikely.
The other members seem to show your flaws but never gave you credit for your eye, you've spotted many things e.i. obito's arm, with a logical reasoning for it. You thought things out greatly and I just feel no ones giving you credit..

P.S. You should do creepypasta :bouncy:

 

[minamoto]

I stopped reading when I understood what the theory was about.

My question is why would Kishi waste time building up this whole war aspect and have this as the finale of the manga? It doesn't make sense to completely overshadow the war with a meaningless (and might I add unrealistic) "secret." I can understand if this was revealed some 150+ chapters ago, but to have this as the last thing of the whole series is rather idiotic (no offense). It's a nice theory, as farfetched as it may seem, but I really doubt Kishi has hidden so much detail that none of us could have picked up on.

TL;DR - Don't really think there really is a "second" Madara.

P.S. You might wanna shorten your theories a little. Only bothered reading 2% of it at most.

i am sorry bro..it had to be that long...and im pretty sure madara was the reall tobi..also thx for comment though you disagreed with me..but you respected my work so thx

 

[minamoto]

I see that this is kinda flawed on parts(madara and the stone) but I agree with you, this could easily be a correct theory, I dont understand why the members are being so nasty. But While I believe in your theory I just dont think kishi is this deep he's never been. With that being said I see this highly unlikely.
The other members seem to show your flaws but never gave you credit for your eye, you've spotted many things e.i. obito's arm, with a logical reasoning for it. You thought things out greatly and I just feel no ones giving you credit..

P.S. You should do creepypasta :bouncy:

thx so much man....actually there are some memebers who stalk me and harass me in every thread i make...all i do is ingnoring them..as for others who dont agree with me and respond me with nice feed back..thx to them and i respect every criticism as long as its respectfull....while the others who agrees with me I PROMISE GOD I WONT DISPOINT THEM..I THANK THEM A LOT

 

[Mr Hiru]

tobi is madara..tobidara controlls obito!!

It's not a matter of trust or belief man. It's a matter of proofs.

You don't have any proof to support this statement.

Your words are empty enough. You need solidness.

 

[Draven]

thx so much man....actually there are some memebers who stalk me and harass me in every thread i make...all i do is ingnoring them..as for others who dont agree with me and respond me with nice feed back..thx to them and i respect every criticism as long as its respectfull....while the others who agrees with me I PROMISE GOD I WONT DISPOINT THEM..I THANK THEM A LOT

we actually arent stalking you minamoto we just get tired of you posting this same theory on 9 different threads most sane people just go back and rework their original threads to try and win people over. They dont go on to make 8 more threads after the first one just because half the replys on their first thread showed how you were wrong but take it as you like because like i said earlier 9 threads on the same theory is beyond stupid.

 

[ministerC4]

It's not a matter of trust or belief man. It's a matter of proofs.

You don't have any proof to support this statement.

Your words are empty enough. You need solidness.

He has proof very legit proof, but the problem is everyone refuses to take time and read this slowly, read it, scroll back up, try to understand, repeat.. This is indeed a well thought out thread ^~^

 

[Draven]

He has proof very legit proof, but the problem is everyone refuses to take time and read this slowly, read it, scroll back up, try to understand, repeat.. This is indeed a well thought out thread ^~^

we read this on 9 different threads he posted this same exact theory on. LOL we all get the context of what hes saying its just he takes things waaay to literal, and thinks kishimoto is some deep guy but kishimoto himself said what you see about him is what you get.

He only keeps posting this same theory because everytime he posts this on a new thread the NB members punch holes in his theory so he starts over again.

 

[ministerC4]

we read this on 9 different threads he posted this same exact theory on LOL we all get the context of what hes saying its just he takes things waaay to literal and thinks kishimoto is some deep guy but kishmoto himself said what you see about him is what you get

I've seen bleach, naruto, and one piece.
one piece has shown itself as deep
naruto has shown itself to be deep, but it isnt "deep" very often
bleach I'm not too sure about