[Theory] The Mystery that is still : obito, Madara and the Masked man "Tobi"

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you were wrong about spiral so why would we believe you? can you answer how madara controlled yagura? what did he use a clone? why did kisame call obito mizukage madara san? his face changed? obito knew about the seal on his heart i think he would also know about another person or mind inside him too.
 

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you were wrong about spiral so why would we believe you? can you answer how madara controlled yagura? what did he use a clone? why did kisame call obito mizukage madara san? his face changed? obito knew about the seal on his heart i think he would also know about another person or mind inside him too.

when you apology to me and be nice i'll answer you
 

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i no apology to you. you arent debating anything. maybe some stuff would make sense if you didnt twist it to your own liking like spiral and you stopped acting like a weirdo. like madara being behind bloody mist. thats something to wonder about, but it doesnt make sense if he was the one controlling madara a long time ago and kisame saw his face and asked kisame to trust him as if he was lying. then kisame saw him again before the war and hung out with taka. why wouldnt tobidara take control of obito and force him to revive madara?!?
 

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Looool man. How long did it take for you to complete this whole shit..
It was interesting in the beginning, i lost it when i saw the size of this thread.
 

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I just went through all that and its left me confused... O.O
 

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i agree the mysteries not over as to how madara pulled it all off. obviously he had used zetsu to spy and do his work. like watch obito before they met. zetsu was even watching naruto and sasukes fight at vote.
 

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I am saying this as sincerely as I possibly can... SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP, this is not a joke, this is not me trying to be an *******... you desperately need to see a therapist man.
I've been mean to you in the past but I now understand you're just disturbed and need serious mental counseling... please dude find a good therapist. Ask about Thorazine or Prolixin, you desperately need help managing your delusions.
 

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minamoto is smart, he knows tobi cant have been obito. It was simply the worst idea, and they are nothing alike cant imagine obito could ever act like tobi. Besides tobi was smart.

however minamoto u are giving kishi too much credit, lately kishi has been off his game, im afraid obito is all we got.

I may not agree but your thread was nonetheless enjoable and well written
 

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I stopped reading when I understood what the theory was about.

My question is why would Kishi waste time building up this whole war aspect and have this as the finale of the manga? It doesn't make sense to completely overshadow the war with a meaningless (and might I add unrealistic) "secret." I can understand if this was revealed some 150+ chapters ago, but to have this as the last thing of the whole series is rather idiotic (no offense). It's a nice theory, as farfetched as it may seem, but I really doubt Kishi has hidden so much detail that none of us could have picked up on.

TL;DR - Don't really think there really is a "second" Madara.

P.S. You might wanna shorten your theories a little. Only bothered reading 2% of it at most.
 

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I am saying this as sincerely as I possibly can... SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP, this is not a joke, this is not me trying to be an *******... you desperately need to see a therapist man.
I've been mean to you in the past but I now understand you're just disturbed and need serious mental counseling... please dude find a good therapist. Ask about Thorazine or Prolixin, you desperately need help managing your delusions.
it will be so epic if minamoto actually turns out to be right

@Minamoto just so u know, I dont completely rule this possibility out, I simply dont think kishi is living up to that credit
 

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he's not even debating so how can he prove it??
 

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whats next minamoto are you gonna tell us that obama and the rest of the world is madaras plan as well. id be more likely to believe that then your tobidara nonsense.
 

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tobibama. LOL madara wants to take away our guns aka chakra....
 

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lmao how do you not have anything better to do? i've never seen someone waste so much time on nothing. I bet if kishi told you outright you wouldn't believe it.
 

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Inception!! lols, sorry but you are overthinking it. the story is not that complex......kishi doesn't like complex.
u are just trying to discredit Obito's work. but the truth is Madara just got lucky...if it wasn't for Kabuto derping, madara would still be 6 feet under. cuz obito never planned on reviving him and there is no way in hell that blackzetsu or fodder zetsu could do a thing about it, puppet seal or not. and all of the so called madara's plan whould've gone to shyt...he just got lucky..or u can say the plot was on his side, nothing more to it
 

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minamoto is smart, he knows tobi cant have been obito. It was simply the worst idea, and they are nothing alike cant imagine obito could ever act like tobi. Besides tobi was smart.

however minamoto u are giving kishi too much credit, lately kishi has been off his game, im afraid obito is all we got.

I may not agree but your thread was nonetheless enjoable and well written

Wow even you? In any case, someone who is smart is capable of debating, if you try to push him this little, he won't have the slightest idea how to answer back.
 

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it will be so epic if minamoto actually turns out to be right

@Minamoto just so u know, I dont completely rule this possibility out, I simply dont think kishi is living up to that credit
If minamoto turns out to be right, so many jimmies will be rustled.
 

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Madara create Tobi using Hashirama DNA after he steal it.... your first panel (Hashi vs Madara)???????????????????..
 
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