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Know it was as shown itachi and Nagato naruto and bee were going to get beat hard but then itachi saved the day that's why kabuto paired them up
 

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so , i'll be forward , the most powerful team in akatsuki is itachi and kisame , simply because they were nerfed and we never saw their full potential and they were powerful as shit lol.

heck even jiraiya was a par against them and pain , if jiraiya knew the info of pain he would've defeated pain.

Pain would have raped his so would itachi and kisame as individuals and as a team I can only imagine the ultra rape.
 

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Pain & Konan >>> Itachi & Kisame.
Nagato alone >>> Both of them.
Obito didn't have a good partner but he's above either of them individually.
 

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Itachi was a spy and Obito soloed konoha.


If itachi really tried, part two would happen.

Even after causing chaos in konoha, Nagato still died anyways.

Yeah, solo'd; that doesn't show the strongest team does it? Also Obito didn't even do as big as a damage as Nagato did so why mentioned it? Kurama killed many people under Obito's control while Nagato killed many more plus destroyed the village, leaving little to nothing left while Kurama left over 80% of the village there since Minato stopped him after beating Obito. Itachi isn't destroying Konoha even if he wanted too; he doesn't have the power to take on the whole village and it's not like he has Kurama to control.

If Itachi push his body too far then he dies, sure he can do a lot of damage but end result would be that Itachi dies without destroying Konoha. Itachi can't even sneak in Konoha anymore, they would have changed their defenses after he got in during part 1 and they have a barrier that detects anyone like it did Pein. Susanoo cost a lot of chakra, makes him lose his sight faster, and cause him intense pain from Susanoo in addition to his illness. Amaterasu being used to burn the village wouldn't work since they'll just use a sealing jutsu as Jiraiya did. Kakashi at the time of Pein arc has about 3x the reserve as part 1 Kakashi and can use his MS better so he can give Itachi a fight plus Gai is a bad matchup for Itachi. Also add in Shikaku giving Konoha ninjas plans to beat their enemy with the least amount of death.

Nagato is the strongest Akatsuki member and Konan is strong as well but plays a supporter to Nagato for the most part.
 

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Itachi was a spy and Obito soloed konoha.


If itachi really tried, part two would happen.

Even after causing chaos in konoha, Nagato still died anyways.

Nagato died because he sacrigiced himself to save everyone who died ... he could have easily absorb narutos chakra and fight normaly and defeat him and the whole konoha
 

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Nagato and Itachi are the best team-ups in akatsuki
 

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Yeah, solo'd; that doesn't show the strongest team does it? Also Obito didn't even do as big as a damage as Nagato did so why mentioned it? Kurama killed many people under Obito's control while Nagato killed many more plus destroyed the village, leaving little to nothing left while Kurama left over 80% of the village there since Minato stopped him after beating Obito. Itachi isn't destroying Konoha even if he wanted too; he doesn't have the power to take on the whole village and it's not like he has Kurama to control.

Actually no. Obito caused more damage and killed more people than nagato.
Obito fought two hokages one at the same time while half the leaf escaped, team taijustu were off in a mission, and everyone else was protected by Tsunade's slug.
The circumstances can't even compete, Danzo aided pein with konan on their onslaught.
Even the people that did die from pein due to fatality, the numbers were still significantly less.

Orochimaru was boosted to be able to take out a small country and kisame who's at bijuu level chakra all as well the same. Itachi can indefinitely take on the leaf himself, his mass genjustu control and Amatersu should hold no problem for that.

Destroying more constructed properties=/=soloing a village.
What point is there in blowing up a village if the people still lived through it?

Asura, human, and he'll path did all the killing.

If Itachi push his body too far then he dies, sure he can do a lot of damage but end result would be that Itachi dies without destroying Konoha. Itachi can't even sneak in Konoha anymore, they would have changed their defenses after he got in during part 1 and they have a barrier that detects anyone like it did Pein. Susanoo cost a lot of chakra, makes him lose his sight faster, and cause him intense pain from Susanoo in addition to his illness. Amaterasu being used to burn the village wouldn't work since they'll just use a sealing jutsu as Jiraiya did. Kakashi at the time of Pein arc has about 3x the reserve as part 1 Kakashi and can use his MS better so he can give Itachi a fight plus Gai is a bad matchup for Itachi. Also add in Shikaku giving Konoha ninjas plans to beat their enemy with the least amount of death.

Wrong, Itachi is anbu and those barriers were deactivated by him. Pein said that himself.
Itachi has a mass genjustu ability to control many people outside the most advance sensors.
And covering the leaf in Amatersu cannot be countered, it takes prep in order for you to have a sealing scroll. Jiraiya just conveniently carry a scroll around everywhere he goes.
Kakashi was not 3x stronger than before he met itachi, and you obviously made that number up.
Regardless of how strong Kakashi has gotten, he still one-shots him with tsukyomi because he has no uchiha kekkai genkai.

If itachi took his medicine before hand in any fight, he wouldn't have this problem.

Nagato is the strongest Akatsuki member and Konan is strong as well but plays a supporter to Nagato for the most part.

Hell no, Obito is the strongest member and a non dying itachi against Nagato could be debated.
Konan is only strong when she has preparations made for a trap that can kill nearly 90% of NV.
 

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Nagato and Konan were the strongest team, they took down Konoha unlike any of the other teams. Itachi and Kisame ran while Hidan and Kakuza got killed when they tried to mess with Konoha. Nagato and Konan destroyed Konoha, a whole village which happens to be the strongest village.

Lol no this is ridiculous. Konan did absolutely nothing.

Kisame and Itachi were the strongest individually. As a team though Hidan and Kakuzu were most effective.
 

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Lol no this is ridiculous. Konan did absolutely nothing.

Kisame and Itachi were the strongest individually. As a team though Hidan and Kakuzu were most effective.

Konan took part in the Konoha attack so you're wrong there. She also took part in running the Rain village and she is the one who informed us that both her and Nagato knew of Obito's weakness. Nagato and Obito are the strongest individually and yes Hidan and Kakuza were the most effective but Nagato with Konan is stronger than Obito with Zetsu. The most effective teamwork would be the 6 Peins if you want to count them since they can attack in unison but eh.
 

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Konan took part in the Konoha attack so you're wrong there. She also took part in running the Rain village and she is the one who informed us that both her and Nagato knew of Obito's weakness. Nagato and Obito are the strongest individually and yes Hidan and Kakuza were the most effective but Nagato with Konan is stronger than Obito with Zetsu. The most effective teamwork would be the 6 Peins if you want to count them since they can attack in unison but eh.

Nagato and Konan knew nothing about Obito, and that's why she ended up dying in the first place.

Obito/Zetsu>>>Nagato/konan

After the all the power handouts that Obito got as a kid, just put obito on a seperate level.
Obito is more than just kamui
 

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Settling this:
The most powerfull duo is Itachi and Nagato

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Nagato and Konan knew nothing about Obito, and that's why she ended up dying in the first place.

Obito/Zetsu>>>Nagato/konan

After the all the power handouts that Obito got as a kid, just put obito on a seperate level.
Obito is more than just kamui

Knew nothing? Yet she knew exactly how to fight against his Kamui and made a plan ahead of time just to handle Kamui . Obito even praised her for being one of the first members and he lost an arm . She explains Kamui and .

Yes she didn't know everything about him but she knew of his strongest and most used jutsu; also she would be beating Zetsu as Nagato is beating Obito. Only powerup Obito got at a kid was Hashirama's cells via white Zetsu transplant; Madara trained him and Nagato train was trained by Jiraiya and it's implied Obito taught Nagato Rinnegan jutsus (Obito tells Nagato he'll be at that location everyday after Yahiko turned Obito down and walked away with Konan). The 6 paths shared vision would allow them to constantly attack Obito while avoiding any surprise attacks. They know Obito can only stay intangible for 5 minutes and using Izanagi would only hurt Obito since after that he only has 1 eye left.

Nagato is a sensor, has the Rinnegans, and can watch all angles.
 

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Pain and Konan
Itachi and Kisame
Obito and Deidara/Deidara and Hidan
 

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Konan took part in the Konoha attack so you're wrong there. She also took part in running the Rain village and she is the one who informed us that both her and Nagato knew of Obito's weakness. Nagato and Obito are the strongest individually and yes Hidan and Kakuza were the most effective but Nagato with Konan is stronger than Obito with Zetsu. The most effective teamwork would be the 6 Peins if you want to count them since they can attack in unison but eh.
By took part you mean watching the Six Paths of Pain do everything?

And oh wow she ran the rain village what an amazing feat...........so quantifiable

c'mon now.
 

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Knew nothing? Yet she knew exactly how to fight against his Kamui and made a plan ahead of time just to handle Kamui . Obito even praised her for being one of the first members and he lost an arm . She explains Kamui and .

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Even Obito said he was going easy on her and he told her that he can't kill her without getting nagato's ware-about.

Yes she didn't know everything about him but she knew of his strongest and most used jutsu; also she would be beating Zetsu as Nagato is beating Obito. Only powerup Obito got at a kid was Hashirama's cells via white Zetsu transplant; Madara trained him and Nagato train was trained by Jiraiya and it's implied Obito taught Nagato Rinnegan jutsus (Obito tells Nagato he'll be at that location everyday after Yahiko turned Obito down and walked away with Konan). The 6 paths shared vision would allow them to constantly attack Obito while avoiding any surprise attacks. They know Obito can only stay intangible for 5 minutes and using Izanagi would only hurt Obito since after that he only has 1 eye left.

Zetsu's an army, konan is not beating that.
Obito slaughters Nagato, Obito was synced to the Gedo statue and given Hashirama tissues for mokuton.
Obito can run through all the paths like he did the most ninjas. Five minutes for a space time user is more than enough time, especially when he can warp to the real body and kill the path.

Nagato is a sensor, has the Rinnegans, and can watch all angles.

Obito's a sensor too, and that's been proven useless against him when he fought a sensor named minato.
He appeared right behind him and nearly warped him if not for ftg.

Obito's eyes sees all:



He can locate anybody and everyone, all suprise attacks from behind get automatically passed through. Only ftg can catch his timing.

Obito:

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Obito's mokuton would kill at least four of nagato's paths of pein.

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Didn't even mention his genjustu or juubi size katon
 
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itachi kisame
 

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Yeah, solo'd; that doesn't show the strongest team does it? Also Obito didn't even do as big as a damage as Nagato did so why mentioned it? Kurama killed many people under Obito's control while Nagato killed many more plus destroyed the village, leaving little to nothing left while Kurama left over 80% of the village there since Minato stopped him after beating Obito. Itachi isn't destroying Konoha even if he wanted too; he doesn't have the power to take on the whole village and it's not like he has Kurama to control.

If Itachi push his body too far then he dies, sure he can do a lot of damage but end result would be that Itachi dies without destroying Konoha. Itachi can't even sneak in Konoha anymore, they would have changed their defenses after he got in during part 1 and they have a barrier that detects anyone like it did Pein. Susanoo cost a lot of chakra, makes him lose his sight faster, and cause him intense pain from Susanoo in addition to his illness. Amaterasu being used to burn the village wouldn't work since they'll just use a sealing jutsu as Jiraiya did. Kakashi at the time of Pein arc has about 3x the reserve as part 1 Kakashi and can use his MS better so he can give Itachi a fight plus Gai is a bad matchup for Itachi. Also add in Shikaku giving Konoha ninjas plans to beat their enemy with the least amount of death.

Nagato is the strongest Akatsuki member and Konan is strong as well but plays a supporter to Nagato for the most part.

Remember Itachi can control people with his genjutsu, and just because he isn't a big flashy fighter like the rest of the characters have become due to prolonged exposure to the Shippuden series, doesn't take away the fact that he is not to be underestimated
 

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By took part you mean watching the Six Paths of Pain do everything?

And oh wow she ran the rain village what an amazing feat...........so quantifiable

c'mon now.

Took part as in given a duty to do and did her part . Konan was doing the same thing demon path, animal path, and the other paths were doing except it didn't focus on her as much. Actually yeah it is, that means they have a village worth of resources and ninja's they can use if they wanted. Which Akatsuki member can say that? Obito indirectly controlled the hidden Mist years ago but not anymore and the White Zetsus army was Madara's/BZ.

Actually no. Obito caused more damage and killed more people than nagato.
Obito fought two hokages one at the same time while half the leaf escaped, team taijustu were off in a mission, and everyone else was protected by Tsunade's slug.
The circumstances can't even compete, Danzo aided pein with konan on their onslaught.
Even the people that did die from pein due to fatality, the numbers were still significantly less.

Orochimaru was boosted to be able to take out a small country and kisame who's at bijuu level chakra all as well the same. Itachi can indefinitely take on the leaf himself, his mass genjustu control and Amatersu should hold no problem for that.

Destroying more constructed properties=/=soloing a village.
What point is there in blowing up a village if the people still lived through it?

Asura, human, and he'll path did all the killing.



Wrong, Itachi is anbu and those barriers were deactivated by him. Pein said that himself.
Itachi has a mass genjustu ability to control many people outside the most advance sensors.
And covering the leaf in Amatersu cannot be countered, it takes prep in order for you to have a sealing scroll. Jiraiya just conveniently carry a scroll around everywhere he goes.
Kakashi was not 3x stronger than before he met itachi, and you obviously made that number up.
Regardless of how strong Kakashi has gotten, he still one-shots him with tsukyomi because he has no uchiha kekkai genkai.

If itachi took his medicine before hand in any fight, he wouldn't have this problem.



Hell no, Obito is the strongest member and a non dying itachi against Nagato could be debated.
Konan is only strong when she has preparations made for a trap that can kill nearly 90% of NV.

Obito didn't cause more damage, are you talking about stuff from the war? Can't count that since he had the Rinnegan which Nagato will have in this discussion so this is Obito up to when he fought Konan and had Sharingans. Obito fought Minato and lost; Kurama did some damage to the village but not as much as Nagato ST did (mostly because Kurama was taken out before he could let loose after Minato freed him from Obito control). Obito took on 2 Jounin levels but not another Kage. Let's put it this way, Obito said himself that he did all he did in the war because of the Rinnegan but he could only implant 1 because the power of both Rinnegans was too much for him.

Did you say significantly less? Do you not see all of those souls flying out of Enma? . No not everyone was protected by the slug, not only did the paths all killed a lot of people prior to ST but many people that the slugs either couldn't get to or fully protected died. Tsunade used all of her chakra, that doesn't mean she had enough to heal every person. Few ninjas being out of the village doesn't change the fact that Nagato and Konan destroyed it, Gai's team would be killed if they were trying to fight the paths; why do you think Shikaku said no one should help Naruto because he's now on another level and they'll just get in his way. Konoha still had many clans in it such as Hyuuga, Nara, Choji's clan, Ino's clan, Kiba's clan, Sarutobi clan, Shino's clan, Anbu, ect.... Danzo didn't help Nagato, Danzo simply didn't do anything but wait until things pass over; even if Danzo and his men joined in they aren't on the level to handle Nagato.

What would Itachi's mass genjutsu do when Konoha has a whole clan of Hyuugas who all have the Byakugan which can tell if genjutsu is being used? There's the Nara clan which can restrain movements, Ino's clan which are sensors and can communicate long distances and control other's bodies, Shino's clan which can use bugs that eat chakra and can swarm the foes. Kakashi who is a lot stronger than before; I said Kakashi's chakra reserve was at least 3x larger than in part 1. Against Pein, Kakashi used about 6 Chidori/Chidori variations along with earth wall, lightning clone, and using his Sharingan then tells Choza that he used about half his chakra which means he can do 12 Chidori/Chidori variations while part 1 Kakashi could only use 4 before he was out of chakra.

Yes Nagato said Itachi got pass the barrier but guess what, that happened 3 years ago! You serious think Konoha will keep the barrier the same after Itachi got in 3 years prior? No, they would have strengthen their defenses and changed their protolcalls to ensure it couldn't happen again. Heck, Nagato doesn't even know if it's the same barrier as before since that's his first time there. Amaterasu doesn't burn fast, even if Itachi set a good amount of the village on fire, the majority of the villagers would escape their homes before it burn down (if the forest Itachi set on fire was still burning after Team Kakashi and Team Yamato got there then it's not that fast. Jiraiya used a regular scroll and wrote down the seals; Tsunade and her Anbus doing this wouldn't be hard since Jiraiya said only a Sannin could put the 5 prong seal on Naruto so Sannins are pretty well trained in sealing jutsus.

Kakashi never used his MS against Itachi; MS would be able to take on Tsukuyomi; Kakashi has become really skilled in using his MS power compared to when he fought Itachi's clone. Itachi took medicine to prolong his life, it will not help him in the fight since it's helping him to live in general. Itachi used Tsukuyomi (1x), Amaterasu (2x), Susanoo (1x) against Sasuke amongst a few other jutsus so he could use about 5 MS jutsus before dying.

Akatsuki Obito= his one Sharingan with that spare; to use DMS is to use healthy Nagato which puts it in NagatoMs favor still. Non dying Itachi isn't debatable. Visual Genjutsus wouldn't work on the Rinnegan, Nagato can sense Amaterasu (he's a sensor plus the Rinnegan has better vision that the Sharingan). Nagato already sensed Amaterasu and can jutsu absorb it or ST it. Nagato already had a weakened Deva path ST 3 giant toads miles away which are about the size of a Bijuu/Susanoo. Right there Nagato has ways of beating Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, Susanoo, and basic genjutsus. What else does Itachi got?
 

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Even Obito said he was going easy on her and he told her that he can't kill her without getting nagato's ware-about.



Zetsu's an army, konan is not beating that.
Obito slaughters Nagato, Obito was synced to the Gedo statue and given Hashirama tissues for mokuton.
Obito can run through all the paths like he did the most ninjas. Five minutes for a space time user is more than enough time, especially when he can warp to the real body and kill the path.



Obito's a sensor too, and that's been proven useless against him when he fought a sensor named minato.
He appeared right behind him and nearly warped him if not for ftg.

Obito's eyes sees all:



He can locate anybody and everyone, all suprise attacks from behind get automatically passed through. Only ftg can catch his timing.

Obito:

Besides kamui was taught this:

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Obito's mokuton would kill at least four of nagato's paths of pein.

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Didn't even mention his genjustu or juubi size katon

He didn't say he was going easy on her in that scan, he said he took her lightly which means he underestimated her. She proved to be stronger than he thought also you can use the whole he needed to get Nagato's whereabout from her but he's not going to let himself die for it since it would be useless to him dead. Zetsu is not an army, Zetsu is the combination of Black Zetsu and White Zetsu; each Zetsu have their own personality as shown from the different personalities they have. We didn't see Obito with the army, we saw him with the combined Zetsu.

How does Obito slaughters Nagato when he can't touch Nagato? He would have to get pass the 6 Peins; if Obito with the Rinnegan had trouble fighting 3 ninjas (KM Naruto, Gai, and Kakashi; Bee wasn't really fighting close range like the others) since he has to be tangible to actually Kamui someone which leaves him open to be attack them the 6 Paths who actually fight in unison would be a major disadvantage to Obito since they can better time their attacks than Naruto, Gai and Kakashi can since they're being controlled by the same person.

Except that he needs to be tangible to warp which Nagato and Konan knows plus he wouldn't know where Nagato real body is even if he is a sensor since Nagato is stationed outside sensors range. SM Naruto couldn't sense him without implying himself with a chakra rod. If by some miracle Obito finds NagatoMs location then it's worst for him since all of the Peins jutsus are faster and stronger when used by Nagato personally. Nagato can just summon his paths to him just like how animal summoned them after she went through Konoha's barrier to trick them into thinking only 1 enemy infiltrated.

What makes you think Minato was using his sensory ability on Obito? You have to be consciously using it to use it; in Hashirama flashback he asked Tobirama if he sensed something but Tobirama said he wasn't kneading his chakra at that time and in the war Yin Kurama told Edo Minato to turn his chakra into a sensor to sense what happened to Naruto. Nagato was using it to sense Edo Itachi was going to use Amaterasu and used it to track Kabuto's whereabout and told Edo Itachi. Share vision gives that paths sight of all angles plus allow them to attack with great timing; Gai and Kakashi were doing this to Obito when he tried attacking KM Naruto and you think 6 bodies with perfect unison can't while 3 ninjas did?

Besides the Uchiha forbidden jutsus (which I'm sure are Izanagi and Izanami), the other jutsus or at least most of them requires the Rinnegan which Nagato has. Madara taught Obito Rinnegan jutsus which Obito showcased after getting the Rinnegan. Obito destroys what? You showed a scan of a clone of Bee that Sasuke gave Obito which was just a Hachibi tentacle. Visual genjutsu doesn't work on the Rinnegan so no need to even mention it and Pretha path absorbs Katon or ST pushes it back at the user.

Remember Itachi can control people with his genjutsu, and just because he isn't a big flashy fighter like the rest of the characters have become due to prolonged exposure to the Shippuden series, doesn't take away the fact that he is not to be underestimated

Hyuugas can see genjutsus with the Byakugan, Ino's clan are sensors, Shino's clans are sensors by spreading out their bugs, Kiba clan are sensors by smelling their target; not add in clans like Sarutobi, Nara, Choji clan, and more. I never called Itachi weak, I said he can't destroy Konoha as Nagato did.
 
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