[Debate] The Modern Day Racism Debate

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Are you done with your pathetic whinning or is that everything you have for me? I've given you a chance twice. If you have anything to say or prove to me besides how ironic everything you're saying is do it now.
It's clear you've got nothing to say to me, or offer to the discussion at hand. Never mind giving you chances. That's not what this is about. All you're good at is deflecting and misconstruing. That's what's to expect from people without compassion. And I guess a reply of this level is what to expect from someone who only knows the word "ironic" from facebook or reddit.
 

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It's clear you've got nothing to say to me, or offer to the discussion at hand.
No, i do not. Anyone who knows how to read knows i don't want to, i made clear in my first post. I have no interest in debating the wall of nonsense that you wrote. But because you quoted me with some gibberish i assumed you were trying to tell me something but it turns out you just wanted to ask me how "being ignorant" was working for me, and even then i still answered your dumb question.

Never mind giving you chances.
Are you speaking for me now?

That's not what this is about. All you're good at is deflecting and misconstruing.
I'm not deflecting anything. I've given you the benefit of the doubt 3 times now and all you've done is whine and call me ignorant.

That's what's to expect from people without compassion. And I guess a reply of this level is what to expect from someone who only knows the word "ironic" from facebook or reddit.
You must spend a lot of time in facebook then to know that, i wouldn't be surprised.
 

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I thank you on their behalf for those people those are the oneswho are a danger to themselves and by extension by not reporting they leave sick people like that to hurt more people and im glad that the people i told you about reported the men if i had the power to lets just say i would throw the rapist down a few sets of stairs so it is probably good i dont work as prison guard
inferiority complex.

Precisely what that is. You weren't prepared, you can't handle it, so therefore you want to AVOID/GET RID OF IT.A bunch of words on a website!Someones sick and a "danger to themselves" all because they said something that plucked YOUR nerve.This is just manipulations!Get outta here, dude!The real world isn't for you! You're childish, hahaha!

"by not reporting they leave sick people like that..." Oh my god, you're just trying to protect your ego from further collapse. Seriously.Stop over exaggerating.

Talk about sensitive and prideful! Bunch of jokes. People want to "Rid" of what they can't control, as if it's THERE place to take control.

You notice I don't approve of people like you, I'm a threat to people like you, and you can't stand that.You wanna do whatever it takes to rid of me, so you don't have to face me anymore.

Here I am, such a threat, such a HORROR to you all...but this same "horror" couldn't care less about you.Hey, guess I'll just nonchalantly be a horror in all of your faces like it's nothing.Cause it isn't nothing. A horror...to your secrets.
 
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People that think black people can't be racist are more racist than the people that hate people for being black. (to believe that black people can't be racist is to believe that black people are incapable of feeling the most basic human emotion, hatred/anger they believe that black people are so inferior that they can't even managed to feel the most basic human emotion, lowering them to the pedistal below primates, creature less cognative than rats...

Also the world today is clearly less racist than what it used to be.

The patriarchy does not exist.

The wage gap is not 70 cent to a dollars it an earning gap that is less than 5 cent that can and is explained by women on average working less hours than man, and that overtimes gives a higher payout than normal hours.

Also, reverse racism doesn't exist: There are racism, and then there are not racism, being black and hating on white people are is not reverse racism, it's just racism, pure and simple.

I've never met a group of people be as racist and bigoted as the SJ. (their idiology is so viel that they think that everyone else have to be as bigoted and racist as them, they are so flawed, so ofcause the people they disagree with have to be to.)

SJW claim that gamers are exclusive and hate women and people of color, where it the other way around, we don't care about gender or sexuality or skin color, to us gamers all that matters is a person skill in the game they are playing and if they are able to work well with others if it's a co-op game, we simply don't care about such trivial things, we are there to enjoy video games and anyone who wants to play and enjoy games to are welcome (and anyone else who are there for reasons other than enjoying playing games can just piss off)
 
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People that think black people can't be racist are more racist than the people that hate people for being black. (to believe that black people can't be racist is to believe that black people are incapable of feeling the most basic human emotion, hatred/anger they believe that black people are so inferior that they can't even managed to feel the most basic human emotion, lowering them to the pedistal below primates, creature less cognative than rats...

Also the world today is clearly less racist than what it used to be.

The patriarchy does not exist.

The wage gap is not 70 cent to a dollars it an earning gap that is less than 5 cent that can and is explained by women on average working less hours than man, and that overtimes gives a higher payout than normal hours.

Also, reverse racism doesn't exist: There are racism, and then there are not racism, being black and hating on white people are is not reverse racism, it's just racism, pure and simple.

I've never met a group of people be as racist and bigoted as the SJ. (their idiology is so viel that they think that everyone else have to be as bigoted and racist as them, they are so flawed, so ofcause the people they disagree with have to be to.)

SJW claim that gamers are exclusive and hate women and people of color, where it the other way around, we don't care about gender or sexuality or skin color, to us gamers all that matters is a person skill in the game they are playing and if they are able to work well with others if it's a co-op game, we simply don't care about such trivial things, we are there to enjoy video games and anyone who wants to play and enjoy games to are welcome (and anyone else who are there for reasons other than enjoying playing games can just piss off)
What do you call when a group of old white males control women's reproductive rights? what do you call when powerful men (not physically) have for decades harassed and raped women with no repercussions? What do you call it when women think they should keep quiet or something bad will happen.

how is reverse racism not real? even the alt-right says it's real because they see it society being scared to actually do anything or be called a racist. What do you think reverse racism is? You've never met a group as racist as SJ(W)? Wow, i guess you've never been around neo-nazis.

Also gamers are exclusive. You hear it every time you play a co-op game. If you show a single sign of being a Noob, you get ostracized. That's the definition of exclusivity. Don't you remember PC vs Consoles. Which one are true gamers? the fact that the term True Gamer exists proves you wrong.
 
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What do you call when a group of old white males control women's reproductive rights?
Flawed goverment and abuse of power do to their religious beliefs, fix your religion problem and you won't have that problem.

what do you call when powerful men (not physically) have for decades harassed and raped women with no repercussions?
A product of Capitalism where people abuse power they have gained.

What do you call it when women think they should keep quiet or something bad will happen.
Smart, in a business sence, don't rattle the boat, keep the job keep earning money. (it's still horrible though)

how is reverse racism not real?
it's just not, people of color hating on white people is not reverse racism, it's just racism.

even the alt-right says it's real because they see it society being scared to actually do anything or be called a racist. What do you think reverse racism is? You've never met a group as racist as SJ(W)? Wow, i guess you've never been around neo-nazis.
SJW think people of color can't be racist towards white people, that is more racist than white people hating people of color. (they claim that they are incable of feeling hatred, which is way more racist)


Also gamers are exclusive. You hear it every time you play a co-op game. If you show a single sign of being a Noob, you get ostracized. That's the definition of exclusivity.
Then learn the game and you won't be called a noob (a new player that just started playing) and i clearly ment exlusive regarding gender, *** or race.

Don't you remember PC vs Consoles. Which one are true gamers? the fact that the term True Gamer exists proves you wrong.
Console pesents don't count ;) jokes aside, i don't care if people play on console or PC, as long as they say gaming is their hobby and they actually want to spend time playing video games they are gamers in my book.
 
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Systemic racism no longer exists, it's merely racist individuals getting into the system to exploit it for their own purposes, whether it's racist white cops, or black racist professors. If your name is Jaquavious, don't be surprised when the black kid named John get's in and you don't. A name like Jaquavious or Bubba isn't going to land you a job, because that reeks of lower class, and job creators don't want to hire people who's name's give off the impression that their parents don't care about their future and didn't raise them right.

Racism exists, it always will, on all sides. Until we have a thorough discussion about race where everyone has their chance to speak and is rational about it, race will still be a heavy topic when it really doesn't have to be.

Black men are seen as criminal because of the behavior and representation of black men, made by black men. If black people's crime rates were insanely low like asians, and black males didn't dress and behave like teenagers, we'd probably be the least suspicious group along with Asians. There's no definitive reason as to why black men are targeted. Racism is one claim, but then the insane crime rate and criminal representation through media fueled by black people's money is also a factor.

It's more nuanced than "Racism exists, therefore the system is just as bad as it used to be". This 21st century society is ridiculously privileged and blows every issue into such epic proportions that none of said issues can be solved.
 

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Systemic racism no longer exists, it's merely racist individuals getting into the system to exploit it for their own purposes, whether it's racist white cops, or black racist professors. If your name is Jaquavious, don't be surprised when the black kid named John get's in and you don't. A name like Jaquavious or Bubba isn't going to land you a job, because that reeks of lower class, and job creators don't want to hire people who's name's give off the impression that their parents don't care about their future and didn't raise them right.

Racism exists, it always will, on all sides. Until we have a thorough discussion about race where everyone has their chance to speak and is rational about it, race will still be a heavy topic when it really doesn't have to be.

Black men are seen as criminal because of the behavior and representation of black men, made by black men. If black people's crime rates were insanely low like asians, and black males didn't dress and behave like teenagers, we'd probably be the least suspicious group along with Asians. There's no definitive reason as to why black men are targeted. Racism is one claim, but then the insane crime rate and criminal representation through media fueled by black people's money is also a factor.

It's more nuanced than "Racism exists, therefore the system is just as bad as it used to be". This 21st century society is ridiculously privileged and blows every issue into such epic proportions that none of said issues can be solved.
This so much... This is the greatest time to be alive as an American(That's why MAGA makes no sense). That is fact. However, we shouldn't settle for what we have now. We should constantly fight for equal rights for everyone. We shouldn't allow the racism that still exists just because people aren't being put in internment camps or being blasted by water hoses. Racism is racism. White on black, black on white, etc. That's all racism. We should all just be making babies, enjoying life, and keepin' it the **** moving.
 

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Just to add some context. Most racist blacks are racists due to the same reasons as some racist white people. Stereotypes. Growing up in school. In school history paints a very bad picture. I say that to say this, I personally haven't met a racist black person who only hates due to skin color. Plus a lot of us justifiably (my opinion) still think we're under attack so we keep our guards up. Even tho I have to watch my back from other black men ALOT more than police to be fair.
 

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Just to add some context. Most racist blacks are racists due to the same reasons as some racist white people. Stereotypes. Growing up in school. In school history paints a very bad picture. I say that to say this, I personally haven't met a racist black person who only hates due to skin color. Plus a lot of us justifiably (my opinion) still think we're under attack so we keep our guards up. Even tho I have to watch my back from other black men ALOT more than police to be fair.
You get the picture. Black men are on guard, from everyone, even our own. I can't tell you how many times I've had to look at people from my own race with suspicion and keep on guard and on edge. I'm black, so I obviously wasn't taught to hate my own kind, but after experiencing the way my own people behave, it's dishonest to say that people fear black men just because of racism.

This isn't to say that it's all our fault that people are racist toward us, but there is no doubt self destructive elements in our community that need to be stopped.
 

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Exactly.

He couldn't care less about racism or sexism.Call it a lack of consideration.
Let me come to your aid. Cause I indeed do agree with you. Lol
I do believe those are HIS views.. the context he used it in didn't seem like examples.

Either way. WS does exist.
Rather not give my views atm cause it wont be pretty lel
 

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Systemic racism no longer exists, it's merely racist individuals getting into the system to exploit it for their own purposes, whether it's racist white cops, or black racist professors. If your name is Jaquavious, don't be surprised when the black kid named John get's in and you don't. A name like Jaquavious or Bubba isn't going to land you a job, because that reeks of lower class, and job creators don't want to hire people who's name's give off the impression that their parents don't care about their future and didn't raise them right.

Racism exists, it always will, on all sides. Until we have a thorough discussion about race where everyone has their chance to speak and is rational about it, race will still be a heavy topic when it really doesn't have to be.

Black men are seen as criminal because of the behavior and representation of black men, made by black men. If black people's crime rates were insanely low like asians, and black males didn't dress and behave like teenagers, we'd probably be the least suspicious group along with Asians. There's no definitive reason as to why black men are targeted. Racism is one claim, but then the insane crime rate and criminal representation through media fueled by black people's money is also a factor.

It's more nuanced than "Racism exists, therefore the system is just as bad as it used to be". This 21st century society is ridiculously privileged and blows every issue into such epic proportions that none of said issues can be solved.
seriously?
 

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seriously?
Are there racists in the systems? Yes.

To imply that systemic racism exists is to imply that there are organizations and systems specifically meant for racism and to carry out racism. Can you name one endorsed organization or system in this country that has explicit laws that state racist things in their modus operandi?

Individual people will use things like universities, police forces, and other things in order to carry out their agendas, but that itself doesn't mean that the SYSTEM or INSTITUTION itself is racist.
 

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Are there racists in the systems? Yes.

To imply that systemic racism exists is to imply that there are organizations and systems specifically meant for racism and to carry out racism. Can you name one endorsed organization or system in this country that has explicit laws that state racist things in their modus operandi?

Individual people will use things like universities, police forces, and other things in order to carry out their agendas, but that itself doesn't mean that the SYSTEM or INSTITUTION itself is racist.
Is racism only explicit or can it also be subtle?

The drug war was used as a way to criminalize black individuals. Even a Nixon official admitted to this.

Here's his quote:


“You want to know what this was really all about,” Ehrlichman, who died in 1999, said, referring to Nixon’s declaration of war on drugs. “The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying. We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

Blacks and Whites use and carry marijuana to the same degree, yet black people are arrested 8 times more than white people for possession of marijuana.

That's systematic racism.
 
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People forget how privileged they are to simply be born a male, and stay a male for their whole life for example.
You're an idiot, honestly. And it's because of idiots like you feeding this ridiculous notion (arguably the reverse of it being true, in fact) that something which definitely was a necessary movement in the past - feminism - is now a tumor, mostly plaguing the US.
 
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