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*sigh* i wonder who edited your post...

Anywho, you're just a charlatan...and your all for show.Just as your attraction to women is all for show.

I don't use women to validate myself.That's so elementary.

"i don't get much girlfriends"...stupid, as if women are to be used for ego collection purposes.

lmao, as if I couldn't have your girlfriend, in the blink of an eye.
Dreckerayer this is a debate. Step off your condescending high horse for a minute and really hear what people have to say on the matter. You are berating people for having an opinion on the subject which you don’t agree with....it’s fine if you don’t agree.

Instead of belittling them or calling them stupid or idiots, how bout you simply state your opinion on the matter and leave the name calling out of it?

All you’re doing is getting everyone riled up over your “matter of fact” tone as if you have all the answers and cannot possibly be rebutted. Step back, take a deep claiming breath, and just answer respectfully...

...or I’m gonna report your ass for detailing the topic at hand. This is my first and only warning.
 
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First of all, white supremacy is still a thing. It exists as part of the alt-right. With that out of the way...its a pretty general post you've made so I'll just cover it generally.

Recently there's been a massive increase in terms of how reactive the world is to particular issues regarding social values and issues. As you've stated in your post, there are more and more people coming out as being victimised by some particular problem or persons, and there has been an increased presence and significance of feminists and pro-equality movements. A mistake a lot of people make is marginalising or trivialising the issues a lot of these people, e.g. females and those of the LGBTQI population, face. People like to chalk up their feelings and issues as stemming from personal or political 'agenda', which I think is really sad and short-sighted. People forget how privileged they are to simply be born a male, and stay a male for their whole life for example. People in the LGBTQI community still face a lot of problems, because of these very people who just trivialise or reject their issues and disregard them entirely. Its this distinct lack of acceptance that poses such a large problem for LGBTQI peoples. The recent poll on legalisation of SSM here in Australia came out with a yes vote as the majority decision, which is a big thing. And just to speak on the "ideology that there is more than 2 genders" part of your post; its not simply an ideology, its a fact. Around the world there are millions, probably billions of people, who express a gender that is outside of the "tradiational" male/female assignment. And the reason for most of their problems is that their cries for help are dismissed by people who reject them and don't accept them. Its created a very toxic environment for LGBTQI peoples. Its always been an uphill battle for that community, but its one that will hopefully end in a more peaceful and united community in which everybody is accepted and welcomed.

Feminism, just like LGBTQI movements, is very important. Women still face problems of their own, that are disregarded and rejected by others. Again, it comes down to the privilege and preconceptions that have been built up over a long, long time. Feminism by definition is the desire of equality between men and women, so if you're against that, you're part of the problem really. What a lot of people direct their disdain towards is 'extreme feminism', which at that point isn't technically feminism anymore, and has unfortunately become the expectation or preconception for feminism. The recent torrent of sexual assault (or general misconduct) allegations is a perfect example of female issues being dismissed, with total lack of consideration and insight into what problem women actually face in their daily life compared to that of males. People practice purposeful ignorance of the real problem and prefer to focus on the time between the incident and actually reporting it, and trivial shit like that. They misconstrue the problems of women, and are part of the grave problem that faces women currently in society.

Black people can be racist, just as much as everyone else can be racist. Whoever thinks that any one group of people are incapable of or immune to racism probably don't actually know the definition of racism, or they're just idiots.

Edit: sorry for the wallie, but its covered my thoughts succinctly @_@
 
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so you based your entire ideology with the narrow viewpoint of yours? how is that logical? i know people don't like reading liberal university studies, (you can read their methodology to see any bias ), but it supports the perception that minorities don't get interviews.

THis even works when racism is done within minorities. There are temp agencies, this example was hispanic managed, that tried their hardest to only hire hispanics.
I study in collage myself and hispanics are the most taken advantage of and liberals are the ones who perptuate the issue by letting them come illegially who is more easier to control a legal imigrant who became a citizen and a local or the illegal immigrant

First of all, white supremacy is still a thing. It exists as part of the alt-right. With that out of the way...its a pretty general post you've made so I'll just cover it generally.

Recently there's been a massive increase in terms of how reactive the world is to particular issues regarding social values and issues. As you've stated in your post, there are more and more people coming out as being victimised by some particular problem or persons, and there has been an increased presence and significance of feminists and pro-equality movements. A mistake a lot of people make is marginalising or trivialising the issues a lot of these people, e.g. females and those of the LGBTQI population, face. People like to chalk up their feelings and issues as stemming from personal or political 'agenda', which I think is really sad and short-sighted. People forget how privileged they are to simply be born a male, and stay a male for their whole life for example. People in the LGBTQI community still face a lot of problems, because of these very people who just trivialise or reject their issues and disregard them entirely. Its this distinct lack of acceptance that poses such a large problem for LGBTQI peoples. The recent poll on legalisation of SSM here in Australia came out with a yes vote as the majority decision, which is a big thing. And just to speak on the "ideology that there is more than 2 genders" part of your post; its not simply an ideology, its a fact. Around the world there are millions, probably billions of people, who express a gender that is outside of the "tradiational" male/female assignment. And the reason for most of their problems is that their cries for help are dismissed by people who reject them and don't accept them. Its created a very toxic environment for LGBTQI peoples. Its always been an uphill battle for that community, but its one that will hopefully end in a more peaceful and united community in which everybody is accepted and welcomed.

Feminism, just like LGBTQI movements, is very important. Women still face problems of their own, that are disregarded and rejected by others. Again, it comes down to the privilege and preconceptions that have been built up over a long, long time. Feminism by definition is the desire of equality between men and women, so if you're against that, you're part of the problem really. What a lot of people direct their disdain towards is 'extreme feminism', which at that point isn't technically feminism anymore, and has unfortunately become the expectation or preconception for feminism. The recent torrent of sexual assault (or general misconduct) allegations is a perfect example of female issues being dismissed, with total lack of consideration and insight into what problem women actually face in their daily life compared to that of males. People practice purposeful ignorance of the real problem and prefer to focus on the time between the incident and actually reporting it, and trivial shit like that. They misconstrue the problems of women, and are part of the grave problem that faces women currently in society.

Black people can be racist, just as much as everyone else can be racist. Whoever thinks that any one group of people are incapable of or immune to racism probably don't actually know the definition of racism, or they're just idiots.

Edit: sorry for the wallie, but its covered my thoughts succinctly @_@
I agree with alot of what you say i have a very deep disdain toward extremism feminists alot of the accused rapes where they waited years honestly i just feel anger toward those people and only think where the hell were you i have my own reasons for the anger that i rather not share
Those are the only things i can think to add trans and lbgt im neutral if they want to have that life i could care less so long as they arent forcing it on me personally i wouldnt indulge in that because it is not for me
 
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First of all, white supremacy is still a thing. It exists as part of the alt-right. With that out of the way...it's a pretty general post you've made so I'll just cover it generally.

Recently there's been a massive increase in terms of how reactive the world is to particular issues regarding social values and issues. As you've stated in your post, there are more and more people coming out as being victimized by some particular problem or persons, and there has been an increased presence and significance of feminists and pro-equality movements. A mistake a lot of people make is marginalizing or trivializing the issues a lot of these people, e.g. females and those of the LGBTQI population, face. People like to chalk up their feelings and issues as stemming from personal or political 'agenda', which I think is really sad and short-sighted. People forget how privileged they are to simply be born a male, and stay a male for their whole life for example. People in the LGBTQI community still face a lot of problems, because of these very people who just trivialize or reject their issues and disregard them entirely. It's this distinct lack of acceptance that poses such a large problem for LGBTQI peoples. The recent poll on the legalization of SSM here in Australia came out with a yes vote as the majority decision, which is a big thing. And just to speak on the "ideology that there are more than 2 genders" part of your post; it's not simply an ideology, its a fact. Around the world, there are millions, probably billions of people, who express a gender that is outside of the "traditional" male/female assignment. And the reason for most of their problems is that their cries for help are dismissed by people who reject them and don't accept them. Its created a very toxic environment for LGBTQI peoples. Its always been an uphill battle for that community, but its one that will hopefully end in a more peaceful and united community in which everybody is accepted and welcomed.

Feminism, just like LGBTQI movements, is very important. Women still face problems of their own, that are disregarded and rejected by others. Again, it comes down to the privilege and preconceptions that have been built up over a long, long time. Feminism by definition is the desire for equality between men and women, so if you're against that, you're part of the problem really. What a lot of people direct their disdain towards is 'extreme feminism', which at that point isn't technically feminism anymore, and has, unfortunately, become the expectation or preconception of feminism. The recent torrent of sexual assault (or general misconduct) allegations is a perfect example of female issues being dismissed, with total lack of consideration and insight into what problem women actually face in their daily life compared to that of males. People practice purposeful ignorance of the real problem and prefer to focus on the time between the incident and actually reporting it, and trivial shit like that. They misconstrue the problems of women and are part of the grave problem that faces women currently in society.

Black people can be racist, just as much as everyone else can be racist. Whoever thinks that any one group of people are incapable of or immune to racism probably don't actually know the definition of racism, or they're just idiots.

Edit: sorry for the wallie, but its covered my thoughts succinctly @_@
I agree that white supremacy still exists but get out of your bubble. Not all Alt-Right'ers are racist. They were painted with a broad brush because of their support for Trump. Some of them do not align themselves with mainstream Conservatism.

[BOLD] Huh?

People are just too intolerant of other people opinions or beliefs. For example, a Christain/Catholic does not like a gay because of God and the bible. You think you can magically change their mind overnight. But, hey, the world is changing and their "traditions" are in the past now. The gays shouldn't be crying. The only problem I see something happening to them is the trans.

And feminism has gotten out of hand. I support woman empowerment and all that good shit, but them ***** taking it to the extreme.
 

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I agree with alot of what you say i have a very deep disdain toward extremism feminists alot of the accused rapes where they waited years honestly i just feel anger toward those people and only think where the hell were you i have my own reasons for the anger that i rather not share
Those are the only things i can think to add trans and lbgt im neutral if they want to have that life i could care less so long as they arent forcing it on me personally i wouldnt indulge in that because it is not for me
This is what I'm talking about. I don't think you understand what women have to go through in cases that I mentioned, where they were victims of sexual misconduct. There's the humiliation, the embarrassment, the feeling of helplessness, that's at play here. That alone prevents women who are victims from coming forward and telling someone. There are also cases, which are prevalent today, of their cases being dismissed and men being let off the hook for it. When there's this history of women and their problems being rejected and dismissed so lightly, would you be so willing to try and get help when the chances of them doing so aren't 100%? It's only happening now because of a domino effect, combined with how society has changed which reflects an increased value of women as people.

Nobody's forcing it on you my dude. No person of the LGBTQI community is telling you to adopt their lifestyle or become part of that community. All they want is your acceptance and for you to treat them as you would anybody else.

I agree that white supremacy still exists but get out of your bubble. Not all Alt-Right'ers are racist. They were painted with a broad brush because of their support for Trump. Some of them do not align themselves with mainstream Conservatism.

[BOLD] Huh?

People are just too intolerant of other people opinions or beliefs. For example, a Christain/Catholic does not like a gay because of God and the bible. You think you can magically change their mind overnight. But, hey, the world is changing and their "traditions" are in the past now. The gays shouldn't be crying. The only problem I see something happening to them is the trans.

And feminism has gotten out of hand. I support woman empowerment and all that good shit, but them ***** taking it to the extreme.
The whole point of the alt-right is white nationalism which disguises and encourages racism, antisemitic values, amongst other beliefs which are anti-progressive. Its literally what keeps society from coming together and actually functioning in a healthy and beneficial way for everyone. Its a cancer upon society and the planet itself.

Their traditions and beliefs are still very prevalent. You speak as if the LGBTQI community has won the battle of acceptance when it really hasn't. There are countries which have legalised gay marriage and such, and countries that haven't. That alone contradicts your whole argument that "the gays shouldn't be crying". Australia's SSM legalisation vote was 62% for vs 38% against approximately. Virtually any figure I can cite on gay people and their marriage and reception of it by any given population on this earth will counteract any possible argument you could make on this.

The fact that it's been taken to the extreme and women still face issues in society which men do not still speaks volumes about the reality of things. As said before, extremism is cancerous, but feminism is inherently not an extreme thing. Its a concept that's purely progressive by nature, and the problem right now is that people use extreme feminists and their activity as a way to justify the pointlessness of feminism and deflect from the actual point of feminism and the reality women face in the world.
 

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This is what I'm talking about. I don't think you understand what women have to go through in cases that I mentioned, where they were victims of sexual misconduct. There's the humiliation, the embarrassment, the feeling of helplessness, that's at play here. That alone prevents women who are victims from coming forward and telling someone. There are also cases, which are prevalent today, of their cases being dismissed and men being let off the hook for it. When there's this history of women and their problems being rejected and dismissed so lightly, would you be so willing to try and get help when the chances of them doing so aren't 100%? It's only happening now because of a domino effect, combined with how society has changed which reflects an increased value of women as people.

Nobody's forcing it on you my dude. No person of the LGBTQI community is telling you to adopt their lifestyle or become part of that community. All they want is your acceptance and for you to treat them as you would anybody else.



The whole point of the alt-right is white nationalism which disguises and encourages racism, antisemitic values, amongst other beliefs which are anti-progressive. Its literally what keeps society from coming together and actually functioning in a healthy and beneficial way for everyone. Its a cancer upon society and the planet itself.

Their traditions and beliefs are still very prevalent. You speak as if the LGBTQI community has won the battle of acceptance when it really hasn't. There are countries which have legalised gay marriage and such, and countries that haven't. That alone contradicts your whole argument that "the gays shouldn't be crying". Australia's SSM legalisation vote was 62% for vs 38% against approximately. Virtually any figure I can cite on gay people and their marriage and reception of it by any given population on this earth will counteract any possible argument you could make on this.

The fact that it's been taken to the extreme and women still face issues in society which men do not still speaks volumes about the reality of things. As said before, extremism is cancerous, but feminism is inherently not an extreme thing. Its a concept that's purely progressive by nature, and the problem right now is that people use extreme feminists and their activity as a way to justify the pointlessness of feminism and deflect from the actual point of feminism and the reality women face in the world.
I know alot about what rape victims go though cause i know a few and what they went through they reported i have little trust in the decade long ones that claim because it becomes a he said she said and there is no longer evidence theres one thatalso hurt one very close to me dont assume that i dont know what im talking about i know quite a bit i moght not know more then a csi agent but i know from what these victims told me

And the forcing on to me is a statement as in as long as no one is being hurt its fine with me
Im relgious but its not for me to judge so i treat them as i would anyone else i probably could have done better explaining it but oh well

Another premiditated attempt.

Burn in hell. am I suppose to be scared?

Go and report me, you sore-loser.

I get straight to the point with people, I don't have time for false pretenses. And your whole entire comment is just to get CREDIT.

Such a self-righteous, self-important attitude. I seem to have struck a nerve in you...and you seem to think I care.

I don't give a damn what thread we're on, if it's a JOKE, I'm gonna call it out...period.
Dude your a joke i saw nothing wrong only one who is being self rightious is you you are just being a **** and deserve to be called out on such
 
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Another premiditated attempt.

Burn in hell. am I suppose to be scared?

Go and report me, you sore-loser.

I get straight to the point with people, I don't have time for false pretenses. And your whole entire comment is just to get CREDIT.

Such a self-righteous, self-important attitude. I seem to have struck a nerve in you...and you seem to think I care.

I don't give a damn what thread we're on, if it's a JOKE, I'm gonna call it out...period.
No my whole comment is for the simple fact that I do not like you AT ALL! You come to every thread and almost immediately began calling everyone names. Why are you so angry at everything? Every comment you type/text is completely negative and condescending and it’s something I am calling YOU out on. I’ve already reported and am even willing to take a ban just to teach you a lesson on humility and general tolerance.

I’ve run out of tolerance for your notions.
 

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I know alot about what rape victims go though cause i know a few and what they went through they reported i have little trust in the decade long ones that claim because it becomes a he said she said and there is no longer evidence theres one thatalso hurt one very close to me dont assume that i dont know what im talking about i know quite a bit i moght not know more then a csi agent but i know from what these victims told me
Just because you knew a few people who were victims of sexual misconduct and heard of their experiences through them directly, that doesn't mean you're able to understand every other experience. You can't expect everybody to think or behave in the same way, its just not realistic. It's like saying because you understand a select few, you understand everyone. This only works in some forms of sampling, and only if done correctly. You can't do that here.
 

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Just because you knew a few people who were victims of sexual misconduct and heard of their experiences through them directly, that doesn't mean you're able to understand every other experience. You can't expect everybody to think or behave in the same way, its just not realistic. It's like saying because you understand a select few, you understand everyone. This only works in some forms of sampling, and only if done correctly. You can't do that here.
No i dont know every experiance but they are not exempt from reporting it is a duty to report it as soon as possible the longer the wait the less chances of there being evidence dna tells everything

Virgin alert.
I feel that you are right light drecker is more likely a 13 yearold or a 40 yearold in his moms basement
 
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Well that was inevitable.

And lmfao... The privilege of being born male. I specially loved that one. What a privilege to be born with a penis.

Anyways, as i said, i'm not even gonna bother.
 

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No i dont know every experiance but they are not exempt from reporting it is a duty to report it as soon as possible the longer the wait the less chances of there being evidence dna tells everything
You're right, but some people can't bring themselves to do it and many that do don't get the recompense that they seek. Its a tough thing. And I extend my sympathies to the people you know who were victims.

Well that was inevitable.

And lmfao... The privilege of being born male. I specially loved that one. What a privilege to be born with a penis.

Anyways, as i said, i'm not even gonna bother.
And here it is, ladies and gentlemen. The very thing that plagues society today, ignoring and completely deflecting important issues that billions of people all over the world face. Congratulations sir, you are what is known as part of the problem.
 

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And here it is, ladies and gentlemen. The very thing that plagues society today, ignoring and completely deflecting important issues that billions of people all over the world face. Congratulations sir, you are what is known as part of the problem.
How predictable... Are you done babbling or do you have anything you wanna say to me?
 

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Dude your a joke i saw nothing wrong only one who is being self rightious is you you are just being a **** and deserve to be called out on such
cool.

No my whole comment is for the simple fact that I do not like you AT ALL! You come to every thread and almost immediately began calling everyone names. Why are you so angry at everything? Every comment you type/text is completely negative and condescending and it’s something I am calling YOU out on. I’ve already reported and am even willing to take a ban just to teach you a lesson on humility and general tolerance.

I’ve run out of tolerance for your notions.
Hurry up, and do it. Not gonna humiliate me. Not gonna care.

World doesn't revolve around you, kid. Couldn't care less for how personal you take my comments, or my previous comments that weren't even directed you. You have a controlling attitude, that's the problem.And you think people and the world are at your disposal. You say you don't "like me", but I don't recall that I ever cared or shown signs of living to appease to others.You're the least of my concern...and you're talking about yourself, and how you want to report or ban me because YOU, or others, don't like what I have to say...and I'm wondering to myself "Is that my problem?"....haha OFCOURSE IT'S NOT.

Burn in hell, mmkay. =)

Virgin alert.
closet homosexual with a disingenuous attraction to females alert.

I feel that you are right light drecker is more likely a 13 yearold or a 40 yearold in his moms basement
Wrong and wrong, again.

Wow, so much inferiority complex, in a nut shell!!!

=)

HURRY UP, AND REPORT.MAKE IT QUICK.
 
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How does being ignorant work out for you?
Asks the person who literally said being born male is a privilege. To answer your question, it's working out well for me. I do a lot of ignorant stuff all the time, but if there's anything ignorant i don't do is post an entire wall of trash and act like a stuck up idiot who thinks he knows better than anyone.

Now is there anything of value you wanna say to me or do you have any more stupid questions?
 

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You're right, but some people can't bring themselves to do it and many that do don't get the recompense that they seek. Its a tough thing. And I extend my sympathies to the people you know who were victims.



And here it is, ladies and gentlemen. The very thing that plagues society today, ignoring and completely deflecting important issues that billions of people all over the world face. Congratulations sir, you are what is known as part of the problem.
I thank you on their behalf for those people those are the oneswho are a danger to themselves and by extension by not reporting they leave sick people like that to hurt more people and im glad that the people i told you about reported the men if i had the power to lets just say i would throw the rapist down a few sets of stairs so it is probably good i dont work as prison guard
 

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Asks the person who literally said being born male is a privilege. To answer your question, it's working out well for me. I do a lot of ignorant stuff all the time, but if there's anything ignorant i don't do is post an entire wall of trash and act like a stuck up idiot who thinks he knows better than anyone.

Now is there anything of value you wanna say to me or do you have any more stupid questions?
You'd think that even someone as ignorant as you would be able to understand that ignorance instantly means you aren't perceptive or you're purposefully being unperceptive.

You say that I've got nothing of value to post, but what are you doing that's of value to anyone but yourself? Selfish and ignorant? Doubling down on being a complete and utter stain on the world it seems. Everyone else will pick up your slack though, so no biggie really.
 

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You'd think that even someone as ignorant as you would be able to understand that ignorance instantly means you aren't perceptive or you're purposefully being unperceptive.

You say that I've got nothing of value to post, but what are you doing that's of value to anyone but yourself? Selfish and ignorant? Doubling down on being a complete and utter stain on the world it seems. Everyone else will pick up your slack though, so no biggie really.
Are you done with your pathetic whinning or is that everything you have for me? I've given you a chance twice. If you have anything to say or prove to me besides how ironic everything you're saying is do it now.
 
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