[Discussion] the mighty have fallen

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Yeah, well we have heard naruto say it all before. He's strong because he has something he's fighting for. As long as he has that, he'll keep getting stronger and smarter and he can stay calm now because he has no need to lose it... he has so many people backing him up. But Sasuke has no one he loves or trusts, and anyone like that would eventually go crazy. He thinks he can gain strength through his hatred, and hatred is causing him to lose his cool. They both have gotten their fair share of powerups, but Naruto's purpose for fighting is stronger than Sasuke's, which is why he's stronger now.
 

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Yeah, well we have heard naruto say it all before. He's strong because he has something he's fighting for. As long as he has that, he'll keep getting stronger and smarter and he can stay calm now because he has no need to lose it... he has so many people backing him up. But Sasuke has no one he loves or trusts, and anyone like that would eventually go crazy. He thinks he can gain strength through his hatred, and hatred is causing him to lose his cool. They both have gotten their fair share of powerups, but Naruto's purpose for fighting is stronger than Sasuke's, which is why he's stronger now.
Couldn't have said it better....I. use to love sasukes character but everything I liked about him is gone the smart and calculating sasuke has become a blind puppet of madara and it really didn't take much either but like naruto I'm still hoping for the old sasuke back
 

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But Sasuke has no one he loves or trusts
Really? Have you missed the whole reason Naruto's fighting? Or the reason the Ninja world hasn't just hunted Sasuke down and killed him? Naruto loves Sasuke like a brother. He will do anything to bring him back, even if he does have to fight against the other villages.
 
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ok I see the argument for the OP on both parts. I think that sasuke's OP is worse than naruto's.

Naruto took a curse and made it into a strength, then fought without that strength, and now conquered the curse completely to be able to use it without consequence. IE the Kyuubi. His power ups have been, well power. but nothing really new. some new sensing abilities, greater strength and even better chakra control, but no new jutsu so far.

Sasuke has Susano, something I'm not sure naruto could find a way through to even attack him. Genjutsu which naruto has always been incredibly vulnerable against. Ameratsu which seems to be an instant kill, and now he can do those without any consequence to himself and by all indications with extremely little chakra used to perform them.

As match ups go, I think sasuke has a drastic advantage over naruto, even though I disdain the character of sasuke with a passion. Of course I understand he's integral to the story and so I won't bash on him too hard, there's plenty of others to do that for me :)
 

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ok I see the argument for the OP on both parts. I think that sasuke's OP is worse than naruto's.

Naruto took a curse and made it into a strength, then fought without that strength, and now conquered the curse completely to be able to use it without consequence. IE the Kyuubi. His power ups have been, well power. but nothing really new. some new sensing abilities, greater strength and even better chakra control, but no new jutsu so far.

Sasuke has Susano, something I'm not sure naruto could find a way through to even attack him. Genjutsu which naruto has always been incredibly vulnerable against. Ameratsu which seems to be an instant kill, and now he can do those without any consequence to himself and by all indications with extremely little chakra used to perform them.

As match ups go, I think sasuke has a drastic advantage over naruto, even though I disdain the character of sasuke with a passion. Of course I understand he's integral to the story and so I won't bash on him too hard, there's plenty of others to do that for me :)

Wind seems to be susanoo's weakness(danzo exposed the bikes with wind and all that. So a wind technique powerful enough can probably defeat susanoo'). As for genjutsu well with control over the kyuubi isn't henimmine to genjutsu? Like killer bee. And amatarasu moves and burns very slowly, it's quite easy to avoid.


So the matchup isn't that bad for naruto however we don't know what new ability Sasuke got from getting EMS. So it could go either way.
 

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there are some who say that naruto just got his power's
but for the kyuubi control he needed to fight the kyuubi
and for the rest he worked really hard

sasuke on the other hand just got all his power's
like orochimaru's power and itachi's eye's for EMS
 

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there are some who say that naruto just got his power's
but for the kyuubi control he needed to fight the kyuubi
and for the rest he worked really hard

sasuke on the other hand just got all his power's
like orochimaru's power and itachi's eye's for EMS
Sasuke lost Orochimarus powers when Itachi remove Orochimaru seal from Sasuke. Curse mark is gone. Sasuke just has a natural ability to see a situation and find an opening unless He lets His emotions run will as ben happening lately.
 
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