The user's reflexes let them cast the jutsu AND STRIKE BEFORE THE TARGET CAN REACT.
I read your post, and it makes no sense.
It certainly makes more sense than what ur saying, when you think that teleporting and attacking is the same as instantly attacking
Now, did you read my post? Because you are still spouting the same stuff I just countered. Why in the world would Minato blitz Madara w/ an instantaneous teleportation jutsu, when he already failed to blitz him with Hiraishin, which is an instantaneous teleportation jutsu? The speed of both jutsu is not difference. Sasuke's movement speed>>Madara's. That's why he can blitz Madara with instantaneous teleportation, while Minato can't.
Are we reading the same manga here?
Minato teleported, but then only attacked madara with his striking speed,
Madara reacted to his striking speed, he didnt react to FTG itself, so ur wrong on that, '
had madara been marked, then the speed of minatos attack would be much faster
and in what world did sasuke use his movement speed to blitz madara?
he used amenotejikara which is an S/T technique,
if minato uses amenotejikara
on time then madara gets blitzed, its as simple as that,
Sasuke teleporting and attacking kaguya is alot slower than sasuke instantly attacking madara,
in the latter case, reflexes dont matter, since sasuke is instantly attacking madara with his jutsu,
So, does magic let Sasuke or Minato strike their foes after they've teleported? Obviously not. Teleport-->Strike. That's how it goes. The faster you strike, the less time they have to react.
having an instant teleporting strike is faster than teleporting and striking, i dont see what ur not grasping here,
obito having amenotejikara allows him to strike instantly the moment minato is in the jutsus range,
he doesnt need to teleport and strike when he can coordinate his attacks and land them instantly on him
Lol, other way around. Reflexes and reaction speed is what determines movement speed.
incorrect, one could have slower movement speed (shunshin), but faster reflexes and reaction speed,
as shown how RT madara reacted to Tobirama, despite being much slower,
however they are all directly proportional so there isnt much to be discussed
What the hell?
@bold: Obviously it does. If Obito warps Minato to him and Obito isn't fast enough to hit him due to inferior speed all around, Minato just teleports away, and then when he attacks Obito with Hiraishin, the latter falls due to inferior speed and reactions, or Minato forces him to dance around until it's time for the jutsu to cooldown, then it's GG no re.
Obito can directly teleport a mokuton spike towards minato, the latter doesnt have the reactions to react to it and thats that,
furthermore, Minato actually has to use his shunshin to close the distance and actually have to rely on his reflexes to reactions to attack obito, meaning that he can react to him coming up close and shove a mokuton spike on him instantly
Kaguya>>Rinnegan Sasuke in speed and reactions, thus she reacted to Sasuke both times he used Amenotejikara, and she even outright evaded it the first time around. Thus, if you are fast enough, you can outright evade it on foot, or if your reactions and speed are superior, you can react BEFORE they hit you. Minato>>Obito in speed and reactions.
Kaguya evaded sasukes attack, after he used amenotejikara
its different from sasuke instantly landing an attack from amenotejikara,
reactions dont mean much when obito can instantly land an attack on minato to blitz him,
not to mention that minato doesnt have the reflexes to react to ameno, instantly attacking him, so there goes that,
So tell me, how is Obito hitting Minato before the latter reacts and warps away again?
he does similar to what sasuke did against madara,
by coordinating a mokuton spike and instantly land it on minato the moment hes within his range,
minato isnt reacting to that, that simple
Oh wait, he isn't.
@underlined: Like he did in canon?
he blitzed obito once he placed a mark on him,
Unless you can show me where Obito has superior movement speed and reactions. If he teleports Minato, Minato just teleports away using Hiraishin.
Minato>Obito in speed. Give them both instantaneous teleportation and that fact remains the same. Not hard to understand. Literally simple math.
Obito already fell to Hiraishin in canon, before the mark was placed. Hiraishin+Rasengan is how he placed the mark to begin with, so no, he doesn't need to mark Obito to win. Obito can't touch him due to inferior speed and reactions, and Amenotejikara needs a cooldown. Either Obito gets blitzed by Minato, or he evades Minato until his cooldown comes, and then he dies. Like I said, you clearly don't know how instantaneous teleportation works.
Either way, Minato wins this no more than mid difficulty.
He fell to FTG, because he had to solely rely on reactions and reflexes to actually touch and warp minato, however here thats not the case, when he can instantly coordinate a weapon from ameno and land it on minato to blitz him off, just how sasuke did against madara,
movement speed is not doing much when obito can react to minatos shunshin, and when he sees him attacking he instantly stabs minato, its that simple,
its ironic coming from you, when you clearly dont know the difference between teleporting and attacking,
and a teleportation attack