The Mangekyo Sharigan is a curse

[Blaze Release]

At first we thought in order to activate the ms, you must kill your best friend.
As itachi said to sasuke. We can now safely say that, that is false. But in order to activate it somebody close to you must die. Therefore this also somewhat explains how kakashi got it.

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From finding out the truth about itachi, he didnt kill shisui, shisui killed himself, thus activating itachi's ms.

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From what we know about shisui, we can safely assume that he got the ms from somebody close to him dying.

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Similarly as we saw from sasuke, he activated the ms due to itachi's death. Somebody close to him dying.

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In the link below itachi is basically telling sasuke that the so many uchiha's have gained the ms from killing their friends, just like he did in the first link above. Notice that in both links itachi was pretending to sasuke.

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From what we know so far in order to gain it somebody close to you must die. In the link above itachi said many many gained it by killing their close friends. Now this is false, from what ive showed you so far. The way to obtain it is to lose somebody close to you.

Now back in the day, when war was upon eveybody, the uchiha included. War as we know, there are casualties on both sides. Now from what we know in order to get the ms, you somebody close to you must die. If there war was and somebody close to an uchiha died, they would have to have awakened the ms. As itachi claimed many activated it, but he lied about how to gain it to sasuke. We all know the reasons why.

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Now from what we know it seems like alot of uchiha activated it without their will. Given you examples in itachi, sasuke, shisui. Now what if an uchiha didnt want to activate the ms, surely he wouldnt have a choice because from what know about howto activate it.

This is where the curse comes in. We know that there are advantages to the ms. Im not going to talk about, only focussing on the disadvantages.

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Its main disadvantage is blindness. Imagine if a uchiha didnt want the ms, but due effects of a close person dying they would activate it. They now have to deal with going blind, from something they had no control over.

Now desperate times call for desperate measures. After youve gained the ms without your will, you then go blind slowly even if you hardly use it. The only way to gain back your sight is if you transplant your siblings who also has the ms eyes.

We can dispute whether madara forcefully took izuna's eyes or whether izuna gave it to him. From we know of tobi im not sure, but il go with his words for now, although ill also include what itachi said.

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Itachi claiming madara forcefully took izuna's eyes

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As weve seen desperate times call for desperate measures. Sasuke at first didnt want to transplant itachi's eyes, but after nearly going blind he had to. This further proves my point that he didnt even activate the ms at will and yet now he is desperate to regain his sight.

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Now we have seen that the only way to gain the ems is to transplant your sibling who also has the ms eyes. Now what if you dont have a sibling?. Or what if you do have a sibling but they dont have the ms. They just have a regular sharigan.

Basically after gaining the ms without your will, you have to transplant your siblings with the ms eyes or else you are bound to go blind. If you do succeed your sibling surely dies (izuna). If your sibling is already dead then you are lucky (sasuke).

If you dont have a sibling or you siblings doesnt have the ms, you would surely go blind even if you didnt want the ms

 

[Blaze Release]

People it took me great time to create this thread, if you dont read it and just vote, id be disappointed

 

[Zawar]

i agree
it is a curse
cause everyone suffers from it

 

[-Vegeta-]

No offense but most of this is obvious. The only part I disagree with you about is how the user still goes blind without even using MS.

 

[hawaiianmike]

At the same time though Sasuke never really considered Naruto a friend IMO.
But very interesting theory.
But what about Madara and Izuna they bothe had MS and they were both were said to be alive and using them for awhile.

 

[Blaze Release]

No offense but most of this is obvious. The only part I disagree with you about is how the user still goes blind without even using MS.

You would still go blind even if you rarely use it. As long as its been activated you will go blind

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[Veys]

The Whole Clan is Cursed .. only few of the Uchiha are proud to be called Heroes .. the other scums only desired power thus the massacre of their clan ..

 

[Nikes]

Yeah i agree completely. Nice thread, wonder what would happen even if you don't have a sibling but switch different MS eyes completely.

 

[Flame Alchemist]

but in order to activate ms one has to be an outstanding shinobi, even in uchiha's standarts
I mean I don't think fugaku could get it
it requires a potential that only few had

 

[Blaze Release]

At the same time though Sasuke never really considered Naruto a friend IMO.
But very interesting theory.
But what about Madara and Izuna they bothe had MS and they were both were said to be alive and using them for awhile.

They did activate it, but as saw madara started feeling its side effects alot faster than izuna and had to take his eyes. Izuna wouldve surely also gone blind sooner or later

 

[-Vegeta-]

You would still go blind even if you rarely use it. As long as its been activated you will go blind

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I stand corrected.

 

[Blaze Release]

The Whole Clan is Cursed .. only few of the Uchiha are proud to be called Heroes .. the other scums only desired fire thus the massacre of their clan ..

Dude what im trying to say is that in some cases they didnt have a choice but to try and take their brothers eye, after gaining a power they didnt have to any control of.

but in order to activate ms one has to be an outstanding shinobi, even in uchiha's standarts
I mean I don't think fugaku could get it
it requires a potential that only few had

Actually if you have the sharigan and you lose somebody close to you. It has nothing to do with being an outstanding shinobi and even if it does, an uchiha with the sharigan would have been pretty formidable

 

[hawaiianmike]

They did activate it, but as saw madara started feeling its side effects alot faster than izuna and had to take his eyes. Izuna wouldve surely also gone blind sooner or later

Good point.

Also wouldn't you think Kakashi unlocked his MS from Rin dying?

 

[Blaze Release]

Good point.

Also wouldn't you think Kakashi unlocked his MS from Rin dying?

That is a possibility. Or somehow he started to get emotional about obito again, since we have seen him go to his grave several times and one day, he activated the ms.

I do think the rin thing is most likely though

 

[uchia kid]

awesome tread man +rep

 

[Serpent]

If you only have to see someone close to you die they most the Uchiha would have MS...

Kakashi Killed Obito by accident when he used Chidori and made rocks crush him. later when kakashi became strong enough he activated MS..

Itachi said in that panel you just posted that he help Shisui erase himself after Danzo took one of his eyes.. meaning that Itachi helped kill Shisui of his own will.

Sasuke did kill Itachi, when he found out that Itachi was only protecting him, he realized that Itachi is his closes friend.. giving him MS.. so your info is flawed..

 

[ShinobiX]

I disagree, the Mangekyo Sharingan is a blessing, it brings light and power.

Also I agree with Serpent:

If you only have to see someone close to you die they most the Uchiha would have MS...

Kakashi Killed Obito by accident when he used Chidori and made rocks crush him. later when kakashi became strong enough he activated MS..

Itachi said in that panel you just posted that he help Shisui erase himself after Danzo took one of his eyes.. meaning that Itachi helped kill Shisui of his own will.

Sasuke did kill Itachi, when he found out that Itachi was only protecting him, he realized that Itachi is his closes friend.. giving him MS.. so your info is flawed..

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[Better]

If MS is obtained by just losing someone close to you why is there only a few uchihas that have unlocked it?

i think it takes something else to unlock it also

but for most part i agree its a curse, the longer you have it, the worse the side effects of using it

 

[Blaze Release]

If you only have to see someone close to you die they most the Uchiha would have MS...

Kakashi Killed Obito by accident when he used Chidori and made rocks crush him. later when kakashi became strong enough he activated MS..

Itachi said in that panel you just posted that he help Shisui erase himself after Danzo took one of his eyes.. meaning that Itachi helped kill Shisui of his own will.

Sasuke did kill Itachi, when he found out that Itachi was only protecting him, he realized that Itachi is his closes friend.. giving him MS.. so your info is flawed..

As with the link, itachi said that alot of uchiha's had it and tried to make its power permanent. Being close to somebody doesnt necessarily mean close, to have to have been extremely close.

Kakashi didnt kill obito even if it was indirectly. The rock ninja used an earth technique that destroyed the cave. Kakashi didnt use chidori on anything

If youd had read that link again, itachi said that shiusi killed himself.

Again sasuke didnt kill itachi. He died from his illness and 0 chakra

 

[Flame Alchemist]

here itachi says that to see if that potential lies hidden

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It does require a potential
though the line for that potential is unknown