The Mangekyo Sharigan is a curse

[Blaze Release]

+reps for the effort and you stole my theory on how ms is acquired lol. The whole clan is cursed w/ hatred and revenge they are even cursed w/ failure.

lulz i didnt steal your theory. Dint even know you or any other person had a theory.

Thanks for the rep though

 

[Blaze Release]

Wow, whats with the offensive tone? Nothing like you

But you said that when the Mangekyo Sharingan is awakend, the eye starts to go blind slowly. This hasn't happend to Kakashi at all, he has used and exhausted his MS more than 1 time.

This means that it doesn't affect Kakashi and thus means that Kakashi is not bound to the normal Mangekyo Sharingan rules like Itachi and Sasuke are, because Kakashi is not an Uchiha by blood and Itachi and Sasuke are.

right?

Sorry for that, its just a tard annoying when people say that kakashi wouldnt go blind because he isnt an uchiha whilst weve have clearly seen that he has a greater disadvantage from using its techniques than an uchiha.

Going by that, the process of blindness should be faster for kakashi than an uchiha, but he uses it as a last resort. He should surely go blind still

 

[Owarij]

yup, the juubi cursed/tainted the rinnegan, and the sharingan was formed through the older son

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and kyuubi knows fully well what happened

ac·curs·ed/əˈkərst/Adjective: Under a curse.

for·sake
verb /fərˈsāk/  /fôr-/ 
forsaken, past participle; forsakes, 3rd person singular present; forsaking, present participle; forsook, past tense
Abandon (someone or something)
- he would never forsake Tara

Renounce or give up (something valued or pleasant)​

the juubi's eyes were red with tomoe.... rinnegan is purplish.... its obvious juubi influenced sharingan in some way

 

[Flame Alchemist]

What i believe he means is that sasuke has the potential to activate the sharigan. You have to activate the sharigan, before the ms and at that time sasuke didnt have the sharigan.

As for what fugaku said, he seemed to be trying to deter sasuke from such thoughts. He even wasnt sure whether to tell him about the sharigan.

well I disagree with you but I don't have anything left to say
those were enough for me to believe only few achieved it,
not more from 10 in the history of entire uchiha

only one ems though, if there were any other he would be world-wide known as well

about it being a curse?
no because itachi held it for at least 7 years
while sasuke couldn't last more than a month
and izuna didn't go blind as fast as madara
so it's also about the user

 

[ShinobiX]

Sorry for that, its just a tard annoying when people say that kakashi wouldnt go blind because he isnt an uchiha whilst weve have clearly seen that he has a greater disadvantage from using its techniques than an uchiha.

Going by that, the process of blindness should be faster for kakashi than an uchiha, but he uses it as a last resort. He should surely go blind still

I know that he should go blind slowly, but we haven't seen anything implying that in the manga, only that he had trouble using at the start. You think in later chapters we will see things that imply that Kakashi's eyesight is damaged?

 

[Blaze Release]

well I disagree with you but I don't have anything left to say
those were enough for me to believe only few achieved it,
not more from 10 in the history of entire uchiha

only one ems though, if there were any other he would be world-wide known as well

about it being a curse?
no because itachi held it for at least 7 years
while sasuke couldn't last more than a month
and izuna didn't go blind as fast as madara
so it's also about the user

Its been clearly said that alot of people had it, also from the people who we know activated it shows that somebody close to you must die. It has nothing to do with potential and everything to do with the sharigan and the requirement.

Itachi held it for 7 years but he isnt a spammer. Also its because of this that caused his illness and blindness.

Sasuke after gaining it without his will spammed it and lasted like a month.
Madara as i said we can assume spammed it like sasuke. I mean as soon as he was revived he used susanoo from the get go.

I believe itachi and izuna didnt use it as much as madara and sasuke

 

[protentiality]

the part i disagree with the MOST "is when you said is this Basically after gaining the ms without your will, you have to transplant your siblings with the ms eyes or else you are bound to go blind. If you do succeed your sibling surely dies (izuna)." if you take eyes out of your sibling you're still gonna have to take your own eyes out so couldn't the brothers just swap eyes.. and it's not really your fault it's said in the manga and it's something that just does not make sense to me

 

[Flame Alchemist]

Its been clearly said that alot of people had it, also from the people who we know activated it shows that somebody close to you must die. It has nothing to do with potential and everything to do with the sharigan and the requirement.

Itachi held it for 7 yeats but he isnt a spammer. Also its because of this that caused his illness and blindness.

Sasuke after gaining it without his will spammed it and lasted like a month.
Madara as i said we can assume spammed it like sasuke. I mean as soon as he was revived he used susanoo from the get go.

I believe itachi and izuna didnt use it as much as madara and sasuke

aside from the first part I agree. as I said, it also depends on the user
but you are missing one thing.
we know that itachi told some lies to sasuke in order to make himself look like a villain
how do you know that one sentence he said about uchiha having the mangekyou, was not yet another lie?

 

[Better]

As i said, many uchiha's have obtained it and tried to make its power permanent. Didnt you read the links i posted?

how do we know this is true?

itachi lied about everything until his final words

 

[Owarij]

I know that he should go blind slowly, but we haven't seen anything implying that in the manga, only that he had trouble using at the start. You think in later chapters we will see things that imply that Kakashi's eyesight is damaged?

he already implied his eyesight going away

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the only way he could know ms= blindness is if he unlocked and experienced it himself
thus

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itachi surprised he unlocked ms


and you wont see kakashi complaining because he has a full healthy eye that isnt deteriorating

 

[Blaze Release]

the part i disagree with the MOST "is when you said is this Basically after gaining the ms without your will, you have to transplant your siblings with the ms eyes or else you are bound to go blind. If you do succeed your sibling surely dies (izuna)." if you take eyes out of your sibling you're still gonna have to take your own eyes out so couldn't the brothers just swap eyes.. and it's not really your fault it's said in the manga and it's something that just does not make sense to me

I have thought about it, if a transplant would surely give both users the ems why didnt they just swap eyes. Im sure kishi would tell us why because it doesnt make sense

aside from the first part I agree. as I said, it also depends on the user
but you are missing one thing.
we know that itachi told some lies to sasuke in order to make himself look like a villain
how do you know that one sentence he said about uchiha having the mangekyou, was not yet another lie?

I can understand, but as i said because of the requirements, its safe to say its true. Also from the ms users weve have seen it isnt particularly rare

 

[Blaze Release]

how do we know this is true?

itachi lied about everything until his final words

Read my latest post xd ^

 

[Blaze Release]

I know that he should go blind slowly, but we haven't seen anything implying that in the manga, only that he had trouble using at the start. You think in later chapters we will see things that imply that Kakashi's eyesight is damaged?

He has, im already burnt out from going through past chapters, but he has.
Also he has another eye therefore although he is going blind, he can see clearly in another eye

 

[Better]

Read my last latest post xd ^

why does that always happen? xd

ehh i still believe MS is a rare,

and if many uchiha obtained it, then its safe to assume that they had it during the massacre

i don't see itachi slaughtering uchihas with MS, even if it was a surprise attack

 

[Joon]

I agree, but to some extent.

 

[Blaze Release]

why does that always happen? xd

ehh i still believe MS is a rare,

and if many uchiha obtained it, then its safe to assume that they had it during the massacre

i don't see itachi slaughtering uchihas with MS, even if it was a surprise attack

You have to be aware that in naruto nothing is as rare as they seem. xd
As i said being close to somebody doesn't necessarily gain you the ms, you have to be extremely close.

Also itachi's attack was an ambush at night. Nobody even with the help of tobi can wipe out such a clan, if it wasnt an ambush

 

[Owarij]

why does that always happen? xd

ehh i still believe MS is a rare,

and if many uchiha obtained it, then its safe to assume that they had it during the massacre

i don't see itachi slaughtering uchihas with MS, even if it was a surprise attack

tobi's word phrasing makes be believe ms wasnt rare

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"a sharingan that can activate sussano is a rarity"

he makes it seem that he's seen many ms before and having susanno is rare

 

[ShinobiX]

he already implied his eyesight going away

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the only way he could know ms= blindness is if he unlocked and experienced it himself
thus

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itachi surprised he unlocked ms


and you wont see kakashi complaining because he has a full healthy eye that isnt deteriorating

Hmm nice, thanks for this reply. + rep. lol nvm, can't give you more rep xd

 

[OWanime]

Because of bloody paths to receive eyes
Loses sight
Only is good when you have ems :izuna:

 

[Tosen]

Knowing it will get you blind is enough for me to label it has a cure