the madara DMS obito has no chance against U_U

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By having clear sniping speed advantage 1st move is to remove that eye and then crush it.

After this nothing in maddy's arsenal can harm Obito due to intangibility, fast S/T and sage's senjutsu reactions that enhance his sharingan too.

While Obito can either snipe him either still more more chakra (assuming he's not in shitty condition like before, he should do better)

Later madara is owned via sealing in kamui dimension or killed by TSB rods.

Obito goes to crush the eye and Madara prepares his mass wood-clones.

Nothing? Are you forgetting that Madara has an amazing reaction time as well, predicting even FTG, which is faster than Kamui due to not portal being used. Even Obito complimented Minato. Madara also has the ability to sense where chakra is(so he can see the buildup of chakra to predict when Obito would use Kamui, like when Sasuke tried to use Amaterasu on Obito).

If he snipes Madara, then he can swap with the Limbo clone to come back. Dimension swapping isn't even a victory here, as long as Obito has the means to get to where he is.

As explained above. I also doubt any TSB rods would be touching Madara.
 

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Obito goes to crush the eye and Madara prepares his mass wood-clones.
Lovely, he makes bunch of inferior versions of himself.
Nothing? Are you forgetting that Madara has an amazing reaction time as well, predicting even FTG, which is faster than Kamui due to not portal being used. Even Obito complimented Minato. Madara also has the ability to sense where chakra is(so he can see the buildup of chakra to predict when Obito would use Kamui, like when Sasuke tried to use Amaterasu on Obito).
Im not gonna take you seriously with shit like that. So kamui which was slightly slower then FTG or faster according to Obito, then its speed got doubled via other eye and then we have to factor sage's senjutsu enhancement still slower then FTG? Ok, seems legit :|
If he snipes Madara, then he can swap with the Limbo clone to come back. Dimension swapping isn't even a victory here, as long as Obito has the means to get to where he is.
Substitution doesnt work like that, you actually have to switch yourself with the object. In this case it could have been coordinated with limbo clone, but it doesnt not allow for dimension swaps :vincent:
As explained above. I also doubt any TSB rods would be touching Madara.
If Obito did already lay his hand on him, yes they will.
 

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Lovely, he makes bunch of inferior versions of himself.
Im not gonna take you seriously with shit like that. So kamui which was slightly slower then FTG or faster according to Obito, then its speed got doubled via other eye and then we have to factor sage's senjutsu enhancement still slower then FTG? Ok, seems legit :|
Substitution doesnt work like that, you actually have to switch yourself with the object. In this case it could have been coordinated with limbo clone, but it doesnt not allow for dimension swaps :vincent:

If Obito did already lay his hand on him, yes they will.
Inferior, yes, but they still have the same sensing abilities and techniques as the original, just not as much chakra.

Obito was using Kamui on Minato and still teleported in the process. Madara, being a natural sensor, having Hashirama's Sage Mode, the Holy Tree Sage Mode, the Rinnegan, and being able to see when chakra is transferred to Obito's eyes can surely barely predict the technique or use Kamui to stop his eye from being transported.

It does work like that. You can substitute with something from another dimension. The Limbo dimension is in sync, or relative to the original, meaning it is actually in the same space location Madara is. Nothing suggests you cannot substitute between different dimensions.

Already laid his hands on him? When? I hope you're not talking about when Madara let Obito get close to him.
 

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Inferior, yes, but they still have the same sensing abilities and techniques as the original, just not as much chakra.
I'll leave counter for this one for the last as it would imply some shocking info for you. Or you could accept Obito has PS and this all gets negged via shurikens since madara uses a skill that is out of his character and wasnt done in JJ state.
Obito was using Kamui on Minato and still teleported in the process. Madara, being a natural sensor, having Hashirama's Sage Mode, the Holy Tree Sage Mode, the Rinnegan, and being able to see when chakra is transferred to Obito's eyes can surely barely predict the technique or use Kamui to stop his eye from being transported.
So madara has now better speed feats reactions then current naruto who had his problems with that sniped bone?

I though we already figured madz lost that eye as Obito has sniping speed advantage. This proves to be useless debate U_U
It does work like that. You can substitute with something from another dimension. The Limbo dimension is in sync, or relative to the original, meaning it is actually in the same space location Madara is. Nothing suggests you cannot substitute between different dimensions.
While madara can invoke limbo clone to real dimension it doesnt mean limbo clone can get him out of one. Geez this is sig worthy :vincent:
Already laid his hands on him? When? I hope you're not talking about when Madara let Obito get close to him.
All right, so rinnegan precog and that impressive sensing were turned off when Obito quickly raised his fist which suggested it wasnt to shake hands or hug? :|
 
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Get it straight to point son what is those 25 fodder clones gonna do to a person with sages power
The black staff in obito's hand will just erase them out of existance while BZ rapes madara :coffee:

fodder clones?

they aren't like shadow clones bruh.

you need to actually kill them.

the clones have sage's power too more than obito himselfU_U

BZ isn't on obito's side if anything he'll try to gain control so get that fanfic outta here
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I'll leave counter for this one for the last as it would imply some shocking info for you. Or you could accept Obito has PS and this all gets negged via shurikens since madara uses a skill that is out of his character and wasnt done in JJ state.
So madara has now better speed feats reactions then current naruto who had his problems with that sniped bone?

I though we already figured madz lost that eye as Obito has sniping speed advantage. This proves to be useless debate U_U
While madara can invoke limbo clone to real dimension it doesnt mean limbo clone can get him out of one. Geez this is sig worthy :vincent:

All right, so rinnegan precog and that impressive sensing were turned off when Obito quickly raised his fist which suggested it wasnt to shake hands or hug? :|

lolwat

Yes, Madara, a man with more tailed beast chakra than Naruto, does have better reactions and speed than Naruto himself.

Signature worthy? Let me explain how swapping works.
Madara = Kamui
Limbo = Original
>Madara swaps : Locations of two entities are switched
Madara = Original
Limbo = Kamui

It's most likely because he thought Zetsu would control and stop Obito from doing something like that. Madara also didn't do anything against him when he stabbed and "defeated" him, did he? It was all plot of course.
 

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lolwat

Yes, Madara, a man with more tailed beast chakra than Naruto, does have better reactions and speed than Naruto himself.

Signature worthy? Let me explain how swapping works.
Madara = Kamui
Limbo = Original
>Madara swaps : Locations of two entities are switched
Madara = Original
Limbo = Kamui

It's most likely because he thought Zetsu would control and stop Obito from doing something like that. Madara also didn't do anything against him when he stabbed and "defeated" him, did he? It was all plot of course.

Have it your way lol, we're gonna agree to disagree here. :cool:
 

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Lol Madara needs kamui to compete with kamui?

Dat kamui tho. :rolleyes:
 

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he made an hypothesis and was then proven right.

whats more to it other than your denial?
Dont even know why are we arguing this its irrelevant for me since DMS Obito can sense limbo anyway, i just thought i would correct you on manga knowledge :rolleyes:
 

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Double Rinnegan JJ Madara and Above would comfortably beat DMS Obito
 

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you can't apply logic to obito fans ,

just kamui this kamui that,
Dont blame Obito fans that's its so OP. Before DMS feats i was Obito fan regardless.
how does obito win tell me what happens.
I told you, you're just in denial, but its evident from the title you admit defeat by equipping madz with kamui to fight kamui :cool:
 

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you can't apply logic to obito fans ,

just kamui this kamui that,


and he stated that his alone,

so its clear that Limbo > Kamui
 

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