I thought better of you Algalon... You KNOW that Whitebeard would have to add Haki to his DF (this is possible and has been shown many many many many many times). If he didn't use Haki Sakazuki wouldn't get hurt in the first place. Marco kicked Kizaru with HAKI. Kizaru shrugged it off because he used his own HAKI. Logias bodies can change shape etc. Kuzan did this to go AROUND (literally AROUND/PASS THE BLADE THROUGH HIM) Whitebeards attack.
yes but nowhere was it ever shown about Haki, we can assume they used it but noone really mentioned it, they just fought, noone mentioned Haki, even if Haki was used noone was really hurt except Akainu, but haki played very small part in that, yes now we can ofc conclude he used Haki but at the time of MF so much was up in the air about Haki, noone reading really know what it was, no black hands, noone mentioned it (after the TS for example, Vergo looked like his haki trumped anyone at MF for a while, even i that is clearly not the case) and Ace never was in a real fight, there was one with BB which was so brief it was impossible to conclude weather he used haki now that we know about haki, back then none of us knew about it and I doubt Oda had his mind made up completely about haki either
most of what I wrote I was talking from my perspactive when I was reading MF all those years ago, back than we didn't know about haki, we just knew it existed, that you can touch logias and that is all that happened but now we see that in just a small fraction of what you can do with Haki
Ace got couldn't put up a fight against Sakazuki. If he could use Haki wouldn't he have one shotted Smoker in Alabasta? Seemed to me like Smoker tied. This was to their DF's and how Fire complements Smoke. If Ace had Haki this wouldn't matter.
in his brief clash with Sakazuki haki wasn't shown at all, not by Akainu not by Ace, maybe they used it (would be logical), but I assume it would make no difference since it would be logical for an almost prime admiral (now FA) to have far superior haki to Ace or Luffy at the level he is now
I know you're a huge fan (I'm sure you know I am too) and I respect that. But it doesn't take a genius to point out where a Logia has been touched and where they haven't been. This is an easy way to identify Haki being used. Another one is Garp hurting Luffy.
yes but just being able to touch a logia means nothing since for DF's there are other ways to hurt them, yes Haki was used when contact was made but other than Akainu no logia was even phased by any haki attack, at MF everyones haki was (well it just seemed ofc now it would all look a lot different and some ppl there have insane haki levels imo) weak compared to what we see now, just look at Luffy v Chinjao, did any clash between (Much more powerful) opponents at OP look that intense with Haki? ... no
Oda didn't predict what the final extent and look of Haki would be so even if we now know that haki at MF was probably at insane levels it just looked weak compared to what it looked now
so even if ace had no insane haki feat that is just like every other character pre TS except Shanks and Rayleigh
Ace was in the Whitebeard pirates? He was like 5th strongest as a member. And not just that but his fruit is one of the more dangerous Logia fruits compared to mud...
actually I wouldn't put him on 5th place, but even so 5th place in the WB pirates is a much more incredible feat than just ''being able to last in the NW'' imo
I know Ace had a long way to go to reach his peak but imo many ppl underestimate him at this point (not too long ago he used to be overrated), and his haki[/QUOTE]
sorry if my post are weird and have weird punctuation but it's a pain to do this on the phone -.-
