[Discussion] the lost uchiha

[nevergiveup10]

This thread is not bashing any character.

Shisui uchiha who was feared as a person who had a very skilled body flicker technique. He also had (IMO) probably the most powerful power of the sharingan..the power to control somebodies mind, to control what they do and say. With that power even the most powerful of shinobi could have no chance against him. It is unknown what other skills and power he had, but one thing is clear, that he was a very skilled uchiha, the most powerful uchiha in his generation. I really think he would be stronger than sasuke and itachi maybe even madara.. if he was still alive and got power ups like them..

discuss

 

[House]

That's why Itachi killed him? so there would be no troublesome Uchiha in the massacre =D and course his eyes

 

[nevergiveup10]

That's why Itachi killed him? so there would be no troublesome Uchiha in the massacre =D and course his eyes

thats exactly why i think he killed him..not only for his MS but to also get rid of any kind of challenge in the Uchihia massacre.. The only way Itachi killed him was because Shishi was caught totally off guard bc they were the best of friends.

 

[Kawagiri]

hmm, probably doubtful... danzou had shisui's eye and had many sharingan and hashirama's powers, yeah he didn't have as good of a body flicker probably, but when you can spam izanagi it doesn't matter (bear in mind sasuke beat him and i don't really appreciate sasuke's "power")... and then you have to question if shisui would get MS at all, i doubt he'd go through such a pain big enough for MS unless the massacre awakened it.

that's just my opinion anyway

 

[nevergiveup10]

hmm, probably doubtful... danzou had shisui's eye and had many sharingan and hashirama's powers, yeah he didn't have as good of a body flicker probably, but when you can spam izanagi it doesn't matter (bear in mind sasuke beat him and i don't really appreciate sasuke's "power")... and then you have to question if shisui would get MS at all, i doubt he'd go through such a pain big enough for MS unless the massacre awakened it.

that's just my opinion anyway

First Danzou wasnt a true Uchiha..he does not have the Uchiha blood in him. So whatever power he had from transplanting eyes to using shishu eyes was not natural for him bc it wasnt used at its full extent with him being a regular shinobi. Second i do think if Shishu was still alive he would have wanted the MS bc it is every strong Uchiha desire to obtain as much power as they can bc it is the clans history and curse.

 

[Felixman]

intersting theory but not enough fact for all we know itachi could have beeten shishui by reversing his genjutsu of mind compulsion on him...he simply made shishui kill himself with this own power.

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

intersting theory but not enough fact for all we know itachi could have beeten shishui by reversing his genjutsu of mind compulsion on him...he simply made shishui kill himself with this own power.

man this a nice theory

 

[nevergiveup10]

intersting theory but not enough fact for all we know itachi could have beeten shishui by reversing his genjutsu of mind compulsion on him...he simply made shishui kill himself with this own power.

i agree its not enough fact, that obvious because shishu was only mentioned and only a little was told about him. but i do not believe Itachi could have beaten shishu that easily..shishu was the strongest of his generation..stronger than itachi.

 

[Jinchuuriki of Juubi]

i agree its not enough fact, that obvious because shishu was only mentioned and only a little was told about him. but i do not believe Itachi could have beaten shishu that easily..shishu was the strongest of his generation..stronger than itachi.

Considering the outcome that was obviously not true.Itachi was the pride of the Uchiha and Shisui was merely a footnote in Itachi and Sasukes history if that's not enough proof then what is

 

[Nagato..]

Great post.. I guess well never really know how great he couldve become. Abilities are only have the story, if the user cant wield his power then oh well..

 

[ReLax -]

Shisui was a strong uchiha and ninja to be honest hear i doubt Itachi killed him...maybe he defeated him then someone else came along killed him and Itachi saw but couldnt do anything because they both were weak after an insane battle thats how he couldve awaked his MS since he saw his best friend or also who he considered his older brother killed infront of him

 

[Felixman]

no itachi did not have help...think about it...madara is the only one that helped itachi...if madara would have killed shishui he would have no doubt stolen his eyes...but danzo ended up with them!!! so itachi took down shishui by himself!

 

[Akisha]

no itachi did not have help...think about it...madara is the only one that helped itachi...if madara would have killed shishui he would have no doubt stolen his eyes...but danzo ended up with them!!! so itachi took down shishui by himself!

yeah. I think u are right about this one. I'm just wondering how did Danzou get Shisui's eye... ?

 

[nevergiveup10]

Considering the outcome that was obviously not true.Itachi was the pride of the Uchiha and Shisui was merely a footnote in Itachi and Sasukes history if that's not enough proof then what is

Was Itachi really the pride of the uchiha clan? if he really was would have he been strongly observed and blamed for shishu death? because from what i have read shishu was the most dedicated and loyal to his clan and was looked as a big brother in Itachi's eyes. i think shishu was the true pride of the uchiha clan.

yeah. I think u are right about this one. I'm just wondering how did Danzou get Shisui's eye... ?

Danzou got his eyes after Itachi killed him. he found his body down stream, thats what i assume.

 

[Jinchuuriki of Juubi]

Itachi was easily superior in my eyes and though I will admit Shisui being the MS holder at the time may make it hard to believe Itachi couldve won you have to look at it this way.Itachi was an anbu captain at the age of 13 while having no MS.everyone overlooks the fact that Itachi was the best in almost every single category.taijutsu,ninjutsu,speed,hand seal speed(that even with sharingan Kakashi couldn't keep up with in part 1),battle tactics,and pure raw talent.Itachi was untouchable and his power doubled after gaining MS.everyone now underestimates him because he lost to Sasuke even tho it was his plan and it was his choice to die at Sasukes hand

 

[nevergiveup10]

Itachi was easily superior in my eyes and though I will admit Shisui being the MS holder at the time may make it hard to believe Itachi couldve won you have to look at it this way.Itachi was an anbu captain at the age of 13 while having no MS.everyone overlooks the fact that Itachi was the best in almost every single category.taijutsu,ninjutsu,speed,hand seal speed(that even with sharingan Kakashi couldn't keep up with in part 1),battle tactics,and pure raw talent.Itachi was untouchable and his power doubled after gaining MS.everyone now underestimates him because he lost to Sasuke even tho it was his plan and it was his choice to die at Sasukes hand

i cant speak for other ppl but i dont underestimate Itachi at all. Itachi was a very strong shinobi and i believe sasuke would have never won if Itachi didnt decide he was going to die for his bro or if Itachi had been 100% healthy. But its a fact, even after Itachi had all those accomplishments at a early age, it is said shishu was the strongest most skilled uchiha. this is said when Itachi and shishu were alive.

 

[solidsnake]

maybe madara killed shishu infront of itachi and that awakened itachi's ms and madara told itachi if he didnt help him he would kill sasuke next and thats why he went along with everything

 

[nevergiveup10]

maybe madara killed shishu infront of itachi and that awakened itachi's ms and madara told itachi if he didnt help him he would kill sasuke next and thats why he went along with everything

i wouldnt question it

 

[Jinchuuriki of Juubi]

i cant speak for other ppl but i dont underestimate Itachi at all. Itachi was a very strong shinobi and i believe sasuke would have never won if Itachi didnt decide he was going to die for his bro or if Itachi had been 100% healthy. But its a fact, even after Itachi had all those accomplishments at a early age, it is said shishu was the strongest most skilled uchiha. this is said when Itachi and shishu were alive.

where does it say Shisui was stronger then Itachi? :| not that I doubt you I just never remember reading that.and if I remember correctly it was Itachi who believed MS was aquired by killing your closest friend.regardless you have to consider how young Itachi was and by taking into account he was only around Sasuke and Narutos age you could be correct about Shisui being stronger at the time.but I'm still positive Itachi killed him by himself but only because Shisui never expected it.on another note for some reason(I don't remember where) I think I also remember Itachi at one point(or Madara)said Itachi sensed that Shisui suspected Itachi was up to something and confronted him leading to Itachi having to silence him.but to be honest I don't remember

 

[nevergiveup10]

where does it say Shisui was stronger then Itachi? :| not that I doubt you I just never remember reading that.and if I remember correctly it was Itachi who believed MS was aquired by killing your closest friend.regardless you have to consider how young Itachi was and by taking into account he was only around Sasuke and Narutos age you could be correct about Shisui being stronger at the time.but I'm still positive Itachi killed him by himself but only because Shisui never expected it.on another note for some reason(I don't remember where) I think I also remember Itachi at one point(or Madara)said Itachi sensed that Shisui suspected Itachi was up to something and confronted him leading to Itachi having to silence him.but to be honest I don't remember

considering itachi's age, yes i agree he was strong for his age, and for itachi believing killing ur best friend to get the ms...yes he believed that and all the rest of the uchiha's who discovered the clans bloody history. and for the quote u remember hearing..i wouldnt doubt it bc shishu was assigned to spy on itachi..but i dont think itachi got rid of him as easily as the quote seems to refer.