The LIES of Naruto!! (debunking the hype)

[MickNerks]

wrong on the last part. Kabuto can control more than Oro, thats how he surpased him. He had taken Anko and Oro's chakra let him fully control all at once.

You should have did Amaterasu hot as the sun myth.

I do understand that he had more edo's under his control (a feat im sure oro could accomplishe had he not been sealed), but the fact that kabuto couldnt fully bind them as oro could would suggest to me that he had not fully surpassed oro.

He need oro's chakra to surpass oro.lol

The fourth databook should clarified all.​

Hopefully

good points, i agree with all of them bar mito's one. when naruto achieved kcm, he did not yet have true control over the kyuubi, and was not a perfect jinchuuriki

In KCM naruto had control over kurama's power. Mito should have had the same thing as she was able to use his technique.

 

[Kages]

The single and most worst case of buthurt ^^^^^^^^^



nobody could tame the beast other then who was stated to be able to so.
Kushina was never hinted at being able to control kurama.EVER.
Kabuto did indeed master it which is a total different topic from him having the necessary chakra pool to perform it.
Izanagi can be performed by the sharigan and can be fully utilized once both strands of dna of the sage is present.

You don't like hashirama ? I could care less but why but hurt yourself over it and calling it hype when its stated in the manga by madara that he is the strongest shinobi ??The facts are dead in your face all that is left now is to accept and nothing else.

It was already stated Hiruzen> Hashirama. And he has also shown that he is able to beat him and Tobirama and seal Orochimaru's hands at age 69. Mito was able to tame Kurama and seal it inside her. Izanagi doesn't need Senju DNA, it's an Uchiha technique. Check the databook

 

[MickNerks]

The single and most worst case of buthurt ^^^^^^^^^



nobody could tame the beast other then who was stated to be able to so.
Kushina was never hinted at being able to control kurama.EVER.
Kabuto did indeed master it which is a total different topic from him having the necessary chakra pool to perform it.
Izanagi can be performed by the sharigan and can be fully utilized once both strands of dna of the sage is present.

You don't like hashirama ? I could care less but why but hurt yourself over it and calling it hype when its stated in the manga by madara that he is the strongest shinobi ??The facts are dead in your face all that is left now is to accept and nothing else.

You have soo many fails.lol First of all i dont hate nor dislike hashirama. I like all Naruto character's. Just because i may debate against a character doesnt mean i dislike him. It simply means i have a diffrent understanding of there power than other people.

1. Mito was stated to control or have control over the beast power. There is a contradiction in the manga and i pointed it out. Please grow up and stop trolling.

2. I never said kushina could control kurama. Please re-read the OP and stop putting false words in my mouth.

3. Answer this question. How can use master a jutsu that you cant even use fully. And i never said kabuto didnt master it, I said he didnt surpass orochimaru. Please learn how to read.

4. You just contradicted obito too.. You just said it could be performed by the sharingan, but is fully utilized with senju DNA. So, from what you said uchiha can use it without senju dna, but just cant use it to full potential without the senju dna. Obito said the technique cant be used without the senju DNA. Me, You, and Itachi just made the same point, so why are you trying to argue.

 

[SpiritNinja]

The single and most worst case of buthurt ^^^^^^^^^



nobody could tame the beast other then who was stated to be able to so.
Kushina was never hinted at being able to control kurama.EVER.
Kabuto did indeed master it which is a total different topic from him having the necessary chakra pool to perform it.
Izanagi can be performed by the sharigan and can be fully utilized once both strands of dna of the sage is present.

You don't like hashirama ? I could care less but why but hurt yourself over it and calling it hype when its stated in the manga by madara that he is the strongest shinobi ??The facts are dead in your face all that is left now is to accept and nothing else.

What you just said makes no sense!!! IF IT IS SAID IN THE MANGA THAT MADARA SAID HASHIRAMA WAS THAT STRONGEST SHINOBI, HOW IN THE BLUE HELL IS THAT CREDIBLE IF (LIKE MICKNERKS SAID) THAT MADARA KNOWS WHAT BEEN GOING ON OR WHO WAS ALIVE TO SURPASS HIM SUCH AS HIRUZEN.

 

[Horus]

This is true, i totally agree with it especially the Medical Ninjutsu Hype

 

[OnPoint]

There's no contradiction in the manga regarding Izanagi. Who said the Uchiha of the past did not have Senju DNA? They fought this clan multiple times. You seem to be making the mistake of believing that Hashirama's (the absolute peak of the thousand skills clan) cells are needed. No. Obito said that Uchiha and Senju powers are required. Fodder Senju are still Senju, obviously. They could've easily snatched it from the dead bodies on the battlefield. Where in Itachi's statements does it say that you don't need Senju DNA? Where in Itachi's words does it say that the requirements of Izanami are the same as Izanagi? That is just fallacious. It seems to me you've made assumptions with regards to these last two questions. The manga hasn't brought forth a contradicting set of statements with regards to Izanagi.

It was Hashirama who gained control of Kurama, not Mito. It even says that on the page you posted - all she did was seal it inside her body. Naruto did not gain the ability to sense negative emotions when he became a perfect Jinchūriki; he gained that before. Only a perfect Jinchūriki would have true control over a bijū. KM Naruto had merely tamed Kurama's power - he never had true, complete control. Infact, there are even times where the Kyūbi could've chosen to disobey Naruto or do as he pleased [

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]. That is not complete control, so obviously Danzō wouldn't have mentioned her.

Kabuto surpassed Orochimaru interms of using Edo Tensei because he had 30 odd summons - this clearly requires a higher level of skill.

 

[cptenn94]

Hashirama Hype

Not really a contridiction, madara said at first that tsunade was nowhere close to hashis healing, then later when tsunade uses her forehead seal thing(i forgot its name) and heals madara says it was the same(meaning it was the same level of healing without handseals)

there was no contridiction here, simply madara saw tsunades technique and then remarked it was very similar to hashiramas technique.


Izanagi Needs Senju

This is a possible stumper, but what i think is that for best results, you add senju dna, to izanagi. I think just as danzo, used a incomplete version of izanagi, that a uchiha can use it without senju, but at an incomplete form.
In this case, itachi seems to have more knowledge, of the jutsu, and as soon as izanagi was mentioned many of us knew there would be a izanami


Control Of the Bijuu
Nobody may have ever known that Mito "controlled the nine tails" or she may not have done it.
There are many explanations for why she could sense negative emotions. One is her seal was different, and it couldve allowed her to access limited amounts of kurama chakra, and with her strong will, she could filter out the influence of the fox. Mito "controlled" the nine tails just like kushina did...


i strongly doubt that mito controlled the nine tails like the others mentioned

 

[startup97]

Your missing Hurizens hype

Wrong.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

I'd have to say that the Hashirama one is rather false....Sakura needs to movies her hands on the wound in order to heal injuries....standard medical move...it was simply the fsct she could do it while stabbed that was an impressive feat....she wasn't just naturally healing.

Tsunade's Buakugou was a technique that worked just how Madara described Hashirama to be...that he could heal injuries without focusing his hands on the injury....it is still unopened whether he had to activate a technique or did it naturally....if he did activate a technique them Tsunade alone is equal to his medical prowess...if he did it naturally then he is still above Tsunade ONLY because he needed no activation of a technique.



The Izanagi and the Bijuu ones I agree with.

The Edo tensei one is debatable......when comparing Kabuto and Orochimaru....Orochimaru clearly has a shit load more chakra.....so basically Kabuto was using his chakra in addition to Orochimaru's to secure a more stable bond for control...it is also good to point out that Orochimaru clearly has a unique body style seeing as he takes bodies do it is possible this chakra also had benificisl muttions to it.

Still Kabuto is using Edo Tensei, but uses the additional chakra boost to take it to a large scale level.

 

[KingHashirama]

About Izanagi:

Itachi stated why they used it..

Obito stated the requirements to use it...

About Hashirama:
Madara has seen all the Hokages.

Medical ninjutsu :

Tsunade already admit her inferiority.

Bijuu control:

It never stated Mito gained control of the 9-tails.
Also, Naruto in KCM doesn't control the 9-tails. . so yea.
And Mito was only said to have the ability to sense good and bad.. but never any control over the 9-tails.

Edo Tensei control:

You didn't focus on the whole page.. but only one statement. He stated to increase HIS POWERS.. so he can bind them better....