The LIES of Naruto!! (debunking the hype)

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In the World of naruto many statement have been made by countless characters that either contradict themselves or are found to be out dated becuase said shinobi isnt aware of the ninja of today. This thread is to simply point out some of these lies and/or contradictions that we have seen thru out the manga.

1. Hashirama's Hype
Madara had made a statement to tsunade saying that Tsunade's Healing abilities were nothing compared to hashirama because hashirama could heal with out the use of hand signs.

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This was false on two accounts. Becuase both tsunade and Sakura have shown that they are capable of healing themselves without the use of hand signs. Madara was so stuck in the past, that it didnt occur to him that there were other shinobi that surpassed or matched hashirama's healing feats.

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So this debunks the claim that hashirama's healing jutsu is superior to tsunade and it also takes away the feat as something special because this technique was also learned by sakura as well. And when madara tries to claim that tsunade is not as skilled as hashirama, tsunade agrees with his cliams only later to say that she only agreed to create and opening for an attack

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All this evidence shows that madara had no idea what he was talking about, seeing as he is not aware of the talents of the new generations. And this also makes Hashirama healing feat one that seems common among at least 2 other shinobi.


Izanagi Needs Senju
When we were first introduced to Izanagi by obito when he fought konan, he suggested that it was a technique that could only be used by someone who possesed both senju and uchiha DNA.

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This was later contradicted by Itachi's explaination of Izanagi and Izanami. Itachi stiled that the uchiha's used it in battle when failure was not an option. And stated that both techniques were created by uchiha in order to create balance. This would imply that there were possibly a handful uchiha who were capable of these technique, yet no mention from itachi that senju DNA was needed. And its also noted that itachi doesnt have senju DNA yet he was capable of using one of the techniues.

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This is a contradiction in the manga.

Control Of the Bijuu
It was stated in the manga by danzo that the only people to have control of the bijuu were Hashirama, Madara, 4th Mizukage, and killer bee.

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This doesnt seem to be completely true. As it is also stated twice by seperate shinobi that Mito Uzamaki had gained control of the Kyuubi and their are hints given that she to was able to control its power.

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Obito stated that she was able to sense negative hostility. This was a ability given to naruto AFTER he aquired the power of the nine tails. After he had control of its power he gained the ability to sense negative emotions, so this would mean mito took had control of the nine tails power.

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Which would show that danzo didnt know that Mito had gained control over Kyuubi's power, which means there are others who could have been perfect jinchuriki's or gained their power that danzo wasnt aware of (I.E gaara when he fought deidara in the dessert, Or Roshi, as him and son goku seemed to have a sort of friendship.)

True Master of Edo Tensei
It is stated by Kabuto that orochimaru perfected edo tensei and that he surpassed orochimaru in using the technique.

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This is later contradicted when kabuto tells tobi that he needs orochimaru's chakra to sustain or increase his binding power. He also marveled at the power of orochimaru's chakra (which suggest that it is greater than his own), and says that it makes his binding power so much stronger.

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The problem with this is that, when oro showed his usage of the edo tensei he was able to completely bind the Edo's with no problem.

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So how could kabuto have surpassed orochimaru in the edo tensei technique when he wasnt even strong enough to fully bind his edos w/o orochimaru's chakra, and orochimaru was shown to have full control of his edo's.. This certainly is a contradiction in the manga.


These are only a few contradiction or lies that i found in the manga. But let me know if i got something wrong. And let me know of more condraditions in the manga. I know there are more, i just didnt feel like looking for them at this moment.


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Your missing Hurizens hype
 

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It doesnt let me ***** you but good job! And I agree
 

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Where is Hiruzen's hype?

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Wait, I almost forgat u are a Hiruzen fanboy :|
 

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Things I disagree with and will expand on when I get home.
 

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Hmm, I was planning on making a thread similar to this some time ago, don't remember why I gave up :ghehe: very nice thread :y

Ayways, you could also talk about the "Hashirama has much better healing techs than Tsunade, Madara said so" People bring that up sooo often, and tend to forget the fact that Madara hadn't seen what Tsunade was capable off. And yet people keep on stating that Hashi's techs were a mile above hers -_-
 

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Nice observations.
 

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Really good thread. You brought a lot of questions up for kishi, don't know how he would explain them.
 

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Where is Hiruzen's hype?

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Wait, I almost forgat u are a Hiruzen fanboy :|

Im a naruto fanboy more than hiruzen. And if there are hiruzen hype that has been contradicted, i would post them as well. The only problem with that though is that none of his hype has been contradicted in the manga. If you can find manga pages id be glad to add them to this thread.

Things I disagree with and will expand on when I get home.

ok. looking foward to it.

Btw, not Edo Tension, Edo TENSEI.

I know i spelled it wrong.. I was just lazy.

You are not Masashi Kishimoto.

What does that have to do with anything.. A contradiction is a contradiction.
 

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wrong on the last part. Kabuto can control more than Oro, thats how he surpased him. He had taken Anko and Oro's chakra let him fully control all at once.

You should have did Amaterasu hot as the sun myth.
 
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The fourth databook should clarified all.
 

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wrong on the last part. Kabuto can control more than Oro, thats how he surpased him. He had taken Anko and Oro's chakra let him fully control all at once.

He did surpass Orochimaru with it but Orochimaru still perfected it
 

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In the World of naruto many statement have been made by countless characters that either contradict themselves or are found to be out dated becuase said shinobi isnt aware of the ninja of today. This thread is to simply point out some of these lies and/or contradictions that we have seen thru out the manga.

1. Hashirama's Hype
Madara had made a statement to tsunade saying that Tsunade's Healing abilities were nothing compared to hashirama because hashirama could heal with out the use of hand signs.

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This was false on two accounts. Becuase both tsunade and Sakura have shown that they are capable of healing themselves without the use of hand signs. Madara was so stuck in the past, that it didnt occur to him that there were other shinobi that surpassed or matched hashirama's healing feats.

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So this debunks the claim that hashirama's healing jutsu is superior to tsunade and it also takes away the feat as something special because this technique was also learned by sakura as well. And when madara tries to claim that tsunade is not as skilled as hashirama, tsunade agrees with his cliams only later to say that she only agreed to create and opening for an attack

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All this evidence shows that madara had no idea what he was talking about, seeing as he is not aware of the talents of the new generations. And this also makes Hashirama healing feat one that seems common among at least 2 other shinobi.


Izanagi Needs Senju
When we were first introduced to Izanagi by obito when he fought konan, he suggested that it was a technique that could only be used by someone who possesed both senju and uchiha DNA.

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This was later contradicted by Itachi's explaination of Izanagi and Izanami. Itachi stiled that the uchiha's used it in battle when failure was not an option. And stated that both techniques were created by uchiha in order to create balance. This would imply that there were possibly a handful uchiha who were capable of these technique, yet no mention from itachi that senju DNA was needed. And its also noted that itachi doesnt have senju DNA yet he was capable of using one of the techniues.

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This is a contradiction in the manga.

Control Of the Bijuu
It was stated in the manga by danzo that the only people to have control of the bijuu were Hashirama, Madara, 4th Mizukage, and killer bee.

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This doesnt seem to be completely true. As it is also stated twice by seperate shinobi that Mito Uzamaki had gained control of the Kyuubi and their are hints given that she to was able to control its power.

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Obito stated that she was able to sense negative hostility. This was a ability given to naruto AFTER he aquired the power of the nine tails. After he had control of its power he gained the ability to sense negative emotions, so this would mean mito took had control of the nine tails power.

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Which would show that danzo didnt know that Mito had gained control over Kyuubi's power, which means there are others who could have been perfect jinchuriki's or gained their power that danzo wasnt aware of (I.E gaara when he fought deidara in the dessert, Or Roshi, as him and son goku seemed to have a sort of friendship.)

True Master of Edo Tension
It is stated by Kabuto that orochimaru perfected edo tension and that he surpassed orochimaru in using the technique.

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This is later contradicted when kabuto tells tobi that he needs orochimaru's chakra to sustain or increase his binding power. He also marveled at the power of orochimaru's chakra (which suggest that it is greater than his own), and says that it makes his binding power so much stronger.

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The problem with this is that, when oro showed his usage of the edo tension he was able to completely bind the Edo's with no problem.

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So how could kabuto have surpassed orochimaru in the edo tension technique when he wasnt even strong enough to fully bind his edos w/o orochimaru's chakra, and orochimaru was shown to have full control of his edo's.. This certainly is a contradiction in the manga.


These are only a few contradiction or lies that i found in the manga. But let me know if i got something wrong. And let me know of more condraditions in the manga. I know there are more, i just didnt feel like looking for them at this moment.


Thanks Guys!!!!
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The single and most worst case of buthurt ^^^^^^^^^



nobody could tame the beast other then who was stated to be able to so.
Kushina was never hinted at being able to control kurama.EVER.
Kabuto did indeed master it which is a total different topic from him having the necessary chakra pool to perform it.
Izanagi can be performed by the sharigan and can be fully utilized once both strands of dna of the sage is present.

You don't like hashirama ? I could care less but why but hurt yourself over it and calling it hype when its stated in the manga by madara that he is the strongest shinobi ??The facts are dead in your face all that is left now is to accept and nothing else.
 

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good points, i agree with all of them bar mito's one. when naruto achieved kcm, he did not yet have true control over the kyuubi, and was not a perfect jinchuuriki
 
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