The legendary sanin vs Itachi and Saskue

The legendary Sannin vs Saskue and Itachi


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Rafeal brown

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I'm not angry i'm just irritated because of people overestimate sasuke and Itachi way to much. I do post what i "fink" but you fan boys say no itachi or sasuke would beet that person. :mugi:
You are probably mad at me for saying your fav character oro would lose. And why are u so adamant? I said i'm not one of those fanboys so why don't u go look for those fanboys to pour your anger on? The only reason i'm still posting is that i luv debating on threads like this so i'm tryin have fun debating why fanboys like you are tryin to start a fan war. I'm new on narutobase someone reasonable should tell me what the hell is going on here! It seems like i'm in the middle of a war, its amazing how much ppl have transformed narutobase into some sort of fan war btw characters and this war is breeding so much hatred and jerks like this... seems like i'll back off so u can continue your fan war or whtever u call it. Fictional characters aren't real the better you guys realize it the better for us. And for ppl like demonv who call ppl fanboy and names over fictional characters should sit down and fink over their lives and how stupid they have been.
 

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You are probably mad at me for saying your fav character oro would lose. And why are u so adamant? I said i'm not one of those fanboys so why don't u go look for those fanboys to pour your anger on? The only reason i'm still posting is that i luv debating on threads like this so i'm tryin have fun debating why fanboys like you are tryin to start a fan war. I'm new on narutobase someone reasonable should tell me what the hell is going on here! It seems like i'm in the middle of a war, its amazing how much ppl have transformed narutobase into some sort of fan war btw characters and this war is breeding so much hatred and jerks like this... seems like i'll back off so u can continue your fan war or whtever u call it. Fictional characters aren't real the better you guys realize it the better for us. And for ppl like demonv who call ppl fanboy and names over fictional characters should sit down and fink over their lives and how stupid they have been.
I am done arguing with you. You are just a petty fan boy who thinks that any Uchiha could defeat any character. Orochimaru would destroy Sasuke. Orochimaru could have killed Sasuke when he was on his death bed. And Itachi admitted himself that he couldn’t beet Jiraiya, Naruto episode 83

9:01 Itachi “ If we face each other both of use would be killed even if there was more of use the result would remain the same.” They wouldn’t even need Tsunade to win. Sannin win end of story. You are just a sad pathetic fan boy who has nothing better to do with there time. Have a fun time pissing more people off.:p
 

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Grow up kid! Im just talking to those guys defending Uchiha and if your gonna post here without any answer to my reasoning then stfu.

U got hurt by a simple word where i could simply use gaychihas like other used to if i meant disrespect to all who votes for Sasuke and Itachi.
Um I posted a huge argument, so yeah suck it. The only one of you Sannin supporters that makes any sense is @Guildmage, who still doesn't have an answer to Tsukuyomi.
 

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Um I posted a huge argument, so yeah suck it. The only one of you Sannin supporters that makes any sense is @Guildmage, who still doesn't have an answer to Tsukuyomi.
and that's the only possible way I see uchiha bros winning agaisn't the sannin and well moving to another topic, pain too. Only through Tsukuyomi...
 

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As the author of this thread I just want to say one thing I realize that there is people on here that cant respect others opinion. I love both the sannin and also itachi.To me they are great warriors and highly skilled in there own right. I created this thread because I thought it would be a good match-up for both sannin and itachi brothers. My opinion is that the sannin would win but it does not mean I would throw a tantrum against itachi fans or vice-versa. Everyone here is entitled to there opinion please respect others and also debate as professionals. Both teams are powerful and strong but each team is not invincible they all have there weaknesses so please lets try to be adults here ok and respect each other opinion.

PS. God bless u all and one love :)
 

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Yo. J-Man and Oro know exactley how Sasuke and Itachi fight. They would know to avoid any types of genjutsu, since those are the only Uchihas left.

J-Man and Oro are not stupid, they would just let Tsunade know about the Uchiha brothers Genjustu's and Sussano.

All the Sannin jutsu's together could do massive damage to their Sussanos.

All they have together is double Sussano because genjutsu won't work on the Sannin, they are too smart for that when going up against a Sharingan user. So genjutsu is officially out of the picture to be used against the Sannin. And if Gai was able to avoid genjutsu then J-Man for sure has a plan of the same calibur for fighting Itachi Genjutsu

Then all the Uchiha have left are their Sussanos, which won't last long being that the Uchiha chakra is low compared to the Sannin who have godly chakra reserve. So they could definately outlive and outlast Sussano's frontal attacks, Totsuka blade can be dodged by SM J-Man. Oro is just unkillable he'll know not to get stabbed by that blade, plus he will have so many kage bunshins.

As for Amaterasu, I recall J-Man sealed it very easily in a small funjutsu technique after Itachi escaped his frog belly, so he could do the same for an incoming Amaterasu.

Tsunade has Ktasuya so she is basically unkillable and she'll fight at a distance, while J-Man and Oro survive the Uchiha's attacks.

I mean lets all be real its a damn hard job to kill Oro and J-Man plus they have Tsunade backing them up with heals and Katsuya slugs, plus J-man has his toad summons.

basically its an overall 2v3 with the 2 Uchiha's basically having the exact same skills against 3 others with diverse skills and are practically unkillable if working together.

I go with Sannin.
 

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Yo. J-Man and Oro know exactley how Sasuke and Itachi fight. They would know to avoid any types of genjutsu, since those are the only Uchihas left.

J-Man and Oro are not stupid, they would just let Tsunade know about the Uchiha brothers Genjustu's and Sussano.

All the Sannin jutsu's together could do massive damage to their Sussanos.

All they have together is double Sussano because genjutsu won't work on the Sannin, they are too smart for that when going up against a Sharingan user. So genjutsu is officially out of the picture to be used against the Sannin. And if Gai was able to avoid genjutsu then J-Man for sure has a plan of the same calibur for fighting Itachi Genjutsu

Then all the Uchiha have left are their Sussanos, which won't last long being that the Uchiha chakra is low compared to the Sannin who have godly chakra reserve. So they could definately outlive and outlast Sussano's frontal attacks, Totsuka blade can be dodged by SM J-Man. Oro is just unkillable he'll know not to get stabbed by that blade, plus he will have so many kage bunshins.

As for Amaterasu, I recall J-Man sealed it very easily in a small funjutsu technique after Itachi escaped his frog belly, so he could do the same for an incoming Amaterasu.

Tsunade has Ktasuya so she is basically unkillable and she'll fight at a distance, while J-Man and Oro survive the Uchiha's attacks.

I mean lets all be real its a damn hard job to kill Oro and J-Man plus they have Tsunade backing them up with heals and Katsuya slugs, plus J-man has his toad summons.

basically its an overall 2v3 with the 2 Uchiha's basically having the exact same skills against 3 others with diverse skills and are practically unkillable if working together.

I go with Sannin.
Almost none of what you said has proof or uses logic. You can't just say, and this is a direct quote from you "So genjutsu is officially out of the picture to be used against the Sannin." That makes no sense and is completely false. You said that Guy had a strategy against genjutsu but that is just false, there are more ways than eye contact to put someone in genjutsu and Itachi has more than just Tsukuyomi.

Then you said that the Sannin could do massive damage to the Susanoos, something which has no basis or argument for as Itachi's Susanoo is all but invincible and Sasuke's is the strongest defense we have seen so far other than Itachi's.

Then you went on to say that Oro is unkillable and Jiraiya in Sage mode can continuously dodge the Totsuka sword. Oro hardly ever dodges attacks, he likes to sit there and let it hit him from which he regenerates(go reread all of his battles he hardly ever dodges he usually just takes the hit). He can't regenerate from that though. And how would Jiraiya get in Sage Mode? Are Itachi and Sasuke just going to sit there and let that happen? Jiraiya's sage mode takes alot of time to activate so I am pretty sure he would be dead long before that. Oh and I can't recall a single time where Oro has used kage bunshin, I would like you to tell me please. (not counting when Anko was going to suicide that clone because that wasn't in battle really)

There is no way Jiraiya would be able to seal an Amaterasu coming at him, that is just a ludicrous statement. Amaterasu is really really fast and has only been dodge by two extremely fast characters. If Jiraiya were ever hit by Amaterasu then the fight for him would be over.

Then you went on to say that Tsunade is basically unkillable which is not true at all. She is very killable. She has to release that chakra from that diamond on her head to regenerate cells by making them multiply faster. So she can only heal after she has been hurt but what if she were to get her head cut off with chidori nagashi or Sasuke's sword? And she is not fast enough to dodge the Totsuka sword or Amaterasu.

And Itachi and Sasuke do not have the exact same skills at all, the only abilities they have the same are their MS techniques. Itachi is a master sharingan user who is proficient at tai-,nin-, and genjutsu. Taijutsu would be next to useless for the Sannin, unless Jiraiya manages to get into Sage Mode (which he likely wouldn't) against Itachi as he is faster and has the taijutsu perks from the sharingan.

Itachi also has water element and fire element (all Uchiha have fire I think) and is arguably one of the smartest characters ever in the manga. Sasuke uses fire and lightning. In case you don't know the elements that Oro and Jiraiya can use they are: wind for Oro, and earth and fire for Jiraiya. Now let me see, wind is weak against what? Fire, and who has fire techniques? both of the Uchihas. And Sasuke has lightning against Jiraiya's earth while Itachi has water against Jiraiya's fire. Elemental disadvantage as well.


Kishi made these two characters insanely strong because they were supposed to be parallels of Minato and Naruto. I just accept that he did make them strong, I don't dislike the Sannin but they can't stand against two MS users who even without MS are top level shinobi.
 

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Here . Oro confirmed itachi was stronger than him and thats why he left akatsuki. Sorry for not posting links i'm using my phone.
 
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Putting the whole scenario into perspective, a straight out fair fight between the sannin and the uchiha brothers would probably end in a stalemate although I am leaning towards the Uchiha brothers.

A quick analysis of everyone's abilities:

Sasuke - Kirin (In a fight like this, almost useless as he would need to make his own clouds, thus using up more chakra than needed, in his right versus Itachi, Sasuke used dragon flame bomb 6-7 times before a decent majority of clouds gathered.)
Amaterasu (Assuming both Uchiha will have the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan would mean that Sasuke would overuse his blaze release rather easily, thus wasting away even more chakra (despite the fact he has almost none to begin with.))
Sasuke may or may not have Tsukuyomi, since it has never been comfirmed, therefore for the purpose of this fight, I will assume that he doesn't have it.
Kenjutsu (We can say, without a doubt, Sasuke's swordsmanship skills are extremely refined, he was able to at first keep up with 'Master Swordsman' Killer Bee, and also annihilate Suigetsu (although he is far from Sasuke's level to begin with). In this fight; however, I doubt a sword would be too useful.)
Lightning and Fire releases (Sasuke's elemental types are fire and lightning, his entire fighting style is based off overusing his sharingan and spamming fire and lightning type attacks, whilst Sasuke may be smart, he tends to waste most of his chakra as seen in his fight against Itachi, Deidara, Orochimaru and to an extent; Killer Bee (pre-transformation). Also, Jiraiya is a fire type user so we can assume that he would be able to see Sasuke's fire attacks coming, the chidori can be cancelled by a simple rasengan and his chidori blade could easily be avoided as long as the sannin keep their ground.)

Itachi - Tsukuyomi (Itachi probably wouldn't resort to using Tsukuyomi in the middle of the fight, if he uses it on any of the 3 sannin, he may be able to incapacitate them rather easily (assuming he's even able to have direct eye contact.) but this would also temporarily incapacitate Itachi, which leaves Sasuke fighting two sannin. This would probably lose them the fight.)
Amaterasu (Same as Sasuke's although can't be manipulated with ease, also used very, very sparingly.)
Susanoo (Probably Itachi's biggest asset is the Susanoo, with one hit, he easily sealed away Orichimaru, and a shield which reflects all attacks is a nice additional bonus. Assuming his Susanoo is similar to Sasuke's, Itachi's dexterity and agility would be lost, meaning that the titan like Tsunade or Sage Mode Jiraiya may be able to scratch the Susanoo (Since a kirin was able to do so.)) Assuming that Itachi can use it for extended periods of time, it's a losing battle for the sannin, but with three huge summons, three great ninjas, an army of undead and genius battle tactics gained from experience, I'd say Itachi would reach him limit soon enough.)
Intelligence (Itachi, one could say, is as smart as Minato, having extremely complex plans, which have more plans tied into it, is a huge conspiricial plot. He is able to plan things far into the future, personally I would compare Itachi's xenatos gambit to that of Lelouch from Code Geass.)

Sannin -
Summons (Whether it be frogs, slugs, snakes or undead, Itachi and Sasuke would be swarming with thousands of potential enemies, I personally can see Itachi and Sasuke putting up a fight although Itachi and Sasuke would be worn out rather quickly, I say that the sannin has much more chakra than Itachi and Sasuke, meaning that if the summons don't give them a chance for an attack, nothing will.)
Strength (Jiraiya has Sage Mode, Tsunade (while seemingly useless.) is still hokage and also has monstrous strength. Orochimaru is immortal, his substitution can save him from amaterasu and he was playing with a out of control 4 tailed Naruto...)
Teamwork (The sannin are the sannin because they work together and compliment eachothers abilities, the sannin are very strong individually, but together are a force to be reckoned with. Itachi didn't want to fight Jiraiya (although this was probably due to him not actually wanting to capture Naruto.) They were able to fight on par with Hanzo a few decades ago, so with an extra decade or two of experience, they are worthy of defeating Itachi and Sasuke.)

Due the that quick synopsis, I would assume that the fight would easily end in a stalemate, although both sides could win, I would say the Uchiha brother's have a slight advantage although I assume it really depends on the battleground and what plans Orochimaru and Itachi make up.

Yiin
 

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For those who doubt if the sharingan can control summons. Here

sasuke controlled manda. suigetsu wondered why manda helped sasuke when even oro had prob with it, only to discover sasuke controlled it with his sharingan.
And for those who insulted us for sayin no sannin can break itachi's susanoo. here u see zetsu says itachi was invisible.

we all knw that no character is invisible so lets say itachi is near invisible while using his susanoo
 
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I am done arguing with you. You are just a petty fan boy who thinks that any Uchiha could defeat any character. Orochimaru would destroy Sasuke. Orochimaru could have killed Sasuke when he was on his death bed. And Itachi admitted himself that he couldn’t beet Jiraiya, Naruto episode 83

9:01 Itachi “ If we face each other both of use would be killed even if there was more of use the result would remain the same.” They wouldn’t even need Tsunade to win.
Here
oro said itachi was stronger than him.
Itachi was secretly working for his country he knew that a sannin most likely jiraiya will bcome the fifth hokage. Itachi even lied that he was after naruto so everyone wouldn't be suprised if itachi lied to kisame to prevent the death of jiraiya his future 5th hokage, who will protect his younger bro and country he sacrifised everything for. I'll prove anything u want me to prove from now on. And whats with the name calling? If u can't handle a simple debate plz stfu kiddo. In ur previous post u said oro was unkillable plz show us when it was said in the manga that oro was unkillable, if u can't show us then that make's u a fan boy and a jerk. Fanboyism is a disease and its obvious u have been infected, calling ppl names 4 sayin ur fav character would lose in an international site only shows how IRRESPONSIBLE and PERPETUAL you are. The only way to cure your disease is to hit your head against a rock 2,000 times then maybe you would be free.
 
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this debate looks fun,I think I will join. I see that some people are saying that orochimaru was caught off guard by itachi because he was trying to get his body,but genjutsu is still a shinobi weapon,if itachi got orochimaru with a shuriken would you still say the same thing?come on guys,OROCHIMARU IS A SHINOBI!! and yes susano and amaterasu would "eventually" tire out sasuke and itachi,but the whole time susano is up the sannin aren't going to be throwing shuriken at it,lol. they too are going to be using powerful techniques that will tire them as well. and sage mode jaraiya is fast strong but haven't showed me anything significant to easily break through susano,yes it will be teamwork,it will be a long battle maybe,but with the smarts of itachi and sasuke and their feared sharingan, it goes to the brothers,and as for experience,the manga has made it clear that the younger geneartion is on the rise,it is time for the old to pass the torch,some of the older shinobi are being defeated by the youner shinobi
 

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another thing I want to address is this issue with the genjutsu, genjutsu is obviously a skill that favors the brothers,since they can see through genjutsu AND cast it upon others,is it impossible for any of the sannin to be caught in a genjutsu? cannot itachi (intelligent) find 1 second during the fight to cast tsukyomi? and tsunade did heal the tsukyomi but I don't believe that it was instant healing but took time to do so. and I haven't seen that slug thing(forgot the name) heal the tsukyomi,remember it damages the mind and I dont think that slug can heal things like that, only physical injuries,at least it hasn't been shown so we have to assume it can't.and if tsunade tries to heal one of them herself,it will be a two on one fight against TWO SHARINGAN USERS!!
 

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Jiraiya can spank both Itachi and Sasuke so thats enough said.
no way will they harm them.. orichumara couldnt even stop itachi..all it takes is susanno to come out and take there soul and seal it up in that gourd..ametarasu will burn em all down..itachi took out a whole clan by himself..he couldnt be stopped..sasuke is way to fast an brilliant two sharingans can take out a army
 
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