the Jubbi and the Rinnegan

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Okay this this thread has three parts.
First: did the rikudo get the rinnegan from being the shinju Jinchuriki or Did he inherit from his mother after she ate the fruit of shinju as a kekkei genkai?

Second: does the juubi have the rinnegan abilities? I understand that that chakra came from shinju and that it had an eye similar to the rinnegan and sharingan, but eye personally dont think that it really possess the rinnegan or sharingan abilities, I mean sure it is the originator of all jutsu but the only jutsu it seems to possess seem pretty basic for although destructive. I believe that certain jutsu such as the one that the rinnegan and sharingan does needs a level of intelligence that shinju doesn't have, I I mean can u imagine it using the six paths or ameterasu or susanoo or even genjutsu, if it could use ameterasu it would have used it to cancel out sasuke's. So basically im kinda answering my first question in saying saying that the the rinnegan and sharingan eye was a mutation that occurred after rikudo's mom ate the fruit and the sage inherited it and then his son the elder elder inherited a watered down version of it and then his descendants inherited an even more watered down down version of it the sharingan. I d not think that being the the juubi Jinchuriki gives u th rinnegan eye either since when obito became became Jinchuriki his sharingan eye didnt become a rinnegan. The rinnegan only occurs when both parts of the sages dna are combined not when one simply becomes Its Jinchuriki.

Third: would u rather be the juubi Jinchuriki and have, tenpenchi, ten tails malleable chakra along with all tge other abilities the juubi portrayed, or have ems, rinnegan, and mokuton kekkei genkai along with cursed seal of heaven.

I would like to further clarify the second part of this thread by saying that I say the sages dna results in the rinnegan and sharingan abilities susanoo, six paths, genjutsu, ameterasu along with his his powerful life energy, insteadof becoming the juubi Jinchuriki because im pretty sure that that when rikudo's mom consumed the fruit it mixed with his dna and had some mutating effects that gave him unique abilities aside of the the shinju's. Well that is just my theory not a a confirmed fact so here go food for thought. Discuss peacefully
 

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1. Rikudo was BORN with it, He is the son of the princess Kaguya and the seed of the fruit aka Shinju, It makes sense, there is NO mention of rikudo's dad, if there was to mention it, Kishi would have did it there

2, yeah Lol it is THE PROGENITOR,

3, I rather it have NO jinchurriki. let it remain fused with Obito forever
 

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1. Rikudo was BORN with it, He is the son of the princess Kaguya and the seed of the fruit aka Shinju, It makes sense, there is NO mention of rikudo's dad, if there was to mention it, Kishi would have did it there

2, yeah Lol it is THE PROGENITOR,

3, I rather it have NO jinchurriki. let it remain fused with Obito forever
Now you put it like that the sage is the son of the juubi..
who created 9 entities from 1 so hes also technically he juubis dad..

inception.
 

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1. Rikudo was BORN with it, He is the son of the princess Kaguya and the seed of the fruit aka Shinju, It makes sense, there is NO mention of rikudo's dad, if there was to mention it, Kishi would have did it there

2, yeah Lol it is THE PROGENITOR,

3, I rather it have NO jinchurriki. let it remain fused with Obito forever
2: I dont think it can necessarily, I mean if u recall in the earlier chapters it was stated that the bijuu had less power than their Jinchuriki because they ddon't have the ability to use their own power to fullest do to the lack of human intellect and I think this applies to the shinju, I mean do u really think the shinju can use the animal path?
 

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2: I dont think it can necessarily, I mean if u recall in the earlier chapters it was stated that the bijuu had less power than their Jinchuriki because they ddon't have the ability to use their own power to fullest do to the lack of human intellect and I think this applies to the shinju, I mean do u really think the shinju can use the animal path?
I don't think that is true,. according to tobi's flashback of the past in rikudo's time, the Juubi Certainly knew how to handle its power, causing the world to go in total chaos, and in the latest chapter, knows who to target, to absorb chakra, without obito controlling it

another explanation could be that, That the bijuu's enraged with humanity just go in a fit of rage and wants to destroy them, even if it means firing aimlessly


EDIT: yeah, why not?? it is doing a preta path in a sense
 

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I don't think that is true,. according to tobi's flashback of the past in rikudo's time, the Juubi Certainly knew how to handle its power, causing the world to go in total chaos, and in the latest chapter, knows who to target, to absorb chakra, without obito controlling it

another explanation could be that, That the bijuu's enraged with humanity just go in a fit of rage and wants to destroy them, even if it means firing aimlessly


EDIT: yeah, why not?? it is doing a preta path in a sense
I think it is more like a lion trying to protect its territory, eg a lion knows full well how to use its claws and and physical power to fight but it doesn't have the intellect to focus its power and plan the same way a human would be able to but that doesnt mean it cant make havoc. Also obito or madara said the shinju was a mainly instinctual creature. And if u recall once it was inside obito it was able to focus it power more
 
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