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It neglects the low population because it would be pointless to go for them. If youre going based off of populus alone then getting california, ny,texas etc on your side becomes much more important than places like rhode island. Get it?-_-
Assuming all states had the same electoral votes and people didn't have a brain of their own.

Get it? No. You really don't.
 

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When did I say that? Oh wait i didn't. I'm just explaining to you the flaw of majority based voting.
Over your head, once again.

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You see those numbers? See how close they are? If you knew anything about politics you would know that every single vote counts and that nobody will be neglected by a politician who really wants to win. Get it? No. I bet you still don't.
 

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Over your head, once again.

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You see those numbers? See how close they are? If you knew anything about politics you would know that every single vote counts and that nobody will be neglected by a politician who really wants to win. Get it? No. I bet you still don't.
since we need visuals to get our point across:

It neglects the low population because it would be pointless to go for them. If youre going based off of populus alone then getting california(38.8 million), ny(19.75 million),texas(27.285 Million) etc on your side becomes much more important than places like rhode island(1.055 Million). Get it?-_-

You're assuming im in favor of the electoral college just because i'm arguing against you. When all i'm doing is pointing out the flaws of a populus vote.
 

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No I am just not complaining because I have actual proof that the system was stacked against him. The democrats cheated, applied dirty tactics, and 5 top players in the Democratic party and one from CNN lost their jobs trying cheat for Hillary, and she still lost. :| in what world can any complaint be warranted after all that?

I mean she had sooooooo much more money than anyone else, and even the president campaigned for her
Lebron James was on Hilary Clinton's side too.

Just my lousy fifty cents. X_X
 

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since we need visuals to get our point across:

It neglects the low population because it would be pointless to go for them. If youre going based off of populus alone then getting california(38.8 million), ny(19.75 million),texas(27.285 Million) etc on your side becomes much more important than places like rhode island(1.055 Million). Get it?-_-

You're assuming im in favor of the electoral college just because i'm arguing against you. When all i'm doing is pointing out the flaws of a populus vote.
You're under the impression they don't already prioritize states with higher electoral votes, so the so-called "flaw" in the popular vote is already in the electoral vote (rest assured those states with lower electoral votes aren't being neglected because every vote matters). But I'll say it again before I start to ignore you: every single vote matters to politicians so think again if you believe the popular vote would be "flawed" and certain states would be "neglected" given these numbers.

Clinton - 59,915,938
Trump - 59,689,467

Go talk to a politician before trying to discuss politics.
 

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You seem rather slow on the uptake so I'll spell it out for you.

Nominee A - Republican
Nominee B - Democrat

Everybody in the U.S. will be voting for either A (Republican) or B (Democrat) and each vote is as influential and worth as much as the rest, no matter what state you live in. When all the votes from the states are counted and divided for the respective parties, the person who received the most votes from the total wins the presidency (i.e., A's 10,000,000 > B's 9,000,000 so A wins). Tada! How unfair is that except to the eyes of morons who believe votes would be neglected from states with low populations.
Except when building my platform I only have to really pay attention to those that are of concern in majority States. As long as my interests align with theirs I have no worries.

I get that u believe every vote counts but the current system makes it so that each state can vote on the candidate that best represents their issues rather than just being lumped into one whole or seen simply as a minority.

And under your model the desires of bigger states would hopelessly out number smaller ones. But in the electoral college the desires of the smaller states are given more adequate representation even though they may not have as large a population. Really what don't you get from that. I get that this election was close, but what those results mean is that Trump is the greater good by region as judged by voters in said regions

And since I see that you are saying that they may just ignore smaller states now, if you look the votes aren't exactly proportionate to the size. Ppl are given better representation in smaller states and the state gets more power than it would have if you were just calculating population

Just wanted to add that in seeing how someone else decided to help out.

Thanks For The Hard Work Ben :gn:
 
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Except when building my platform I only have to really pay attention to those that are of concern in majority States. As long as my interests align with theirs I have no worries.

I get that u believe every vote counts but the current system makes it so that each state can vote on the candidate that best represents their issues rather than just being lumped into one whole or seen simply as a minority.

And under your model the desires of bigger states would hopelessly out number smaller ones. But in the electoral college the desires of the smaller states are given more adequate representation even though they may not have as large a population. Really what don't you get from that. I get that this election was close, but what those results mean is that Trump is the greater good by region

And since I see that you are saying that they may just ignore smaller states now, if you look the votes aren't exactly proportionate to the size. Ppl are given better representation in smaller states and the state gets more power than it would have if you were just calculating population
Where I come from we don't have a shitty Electoral College, we have a true democracy and depend on the popular vote, and it works perfectly and nobody *****es and moans like the U.S. citizens do because the system is fair. And nobody is neglected like you continue to claim without really knowing. I'm done here. I really hate talking to blockheads.
 

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Where I come from we don't have a shitty Electoral College, we have a true democracy and depend on the popular vote, and it works perfectly and nobody *****es and moans like the U.S. citizens do because the system is fair. And nobody is neglected like you continue to claim without really knowing. I'm done here. I really hate talking to blockheads.
Oh wait you aren't even American. Well y the heck would you engage in something so pointless? What works for your country works for you and that's all that matters.

And *****es moan because they are *****es nuff said. Ppl should man up
 
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You're under the impression they don't already prioritize states with higher electoral votes, so the so-called "flaw" in the popular vote is already in the electoral vote (rest assured those states with lower electoral votes aren't being neglected because every vote matters). But I'll say it again before I start to ignore you: every single vote matters to politicians so think again if you believe the popular vote would be "flawed" and certain states would be "neglected" given these numbers.

Clinton - 59,915,938
Trump - 59,689,467
Harambe- More than 15,000

Go talk to a politician before trying to discuss politics.
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And *****es moan because they are *****es nuff said. Ppl should man up
Hillary and Trump are both bags of shit, but the system is broken, and that's why people complain. "Ppl" like you would shove cacti up their ass if it was a thing simply because they are conformists.
 

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You're under the impression they don't already prioritize states with higher electoral votes,
so the so-called "flaw" in the popular vote is already in the electoral vote (rest assured those states with lower electoral votes aren't being neglected because every vote matters). But I'll say it again before I start to ignore you: every single vote matters to politicians so think again if you believe the popular vote would be "flawed" and certain states would be "neglected" given these numbers.

Clinton - 59,915,938
Trump - 59,689,467

Go talk to a politician before trying to discuss politics.
given the fact that Places like NY, and Cali have been heavy democratic for the past 3 decades no, the priority states have been states that have mixed views and don't blindly vote democratic, and would you look at that 60 million in the bag, just by convincing 2 states alone.

it being a flaw of the electoral vote doesn't change it from being a flaw of populus vote -_-

a 200 thousand vote differential is the half the populus of wyoming. But please tell me more about how such a small difference isn't overlooking a state like that. or the other states that have sub 1 million in them.
 

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Over your head, once again.

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You see those numbers? See how close they are? If you knew anything about politics you would know that every single vote counts and that nobody will be neglected by a politician who really wants to win. Get it? No. I bet you still don't.
Hillary and Trump are both bags of shit, but the system is broken, and that's why people complain. "Ppl" like you would shove cacti up their ass if it was a thing simply because they are conformists.
You speak for everyone now. (Yawn)
A day no the difference between me and you is that I don't moan or make excuses. I take my pill and pimp, and above all unlike a lot of ppl ican be objective.
 

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You're overreacting. Over 52 million americans voted for Trump, you're flattering the internet when you say it had a large effect on this election.
 
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