The Hyuga Clan predated Rikidou Sennin

[rollin]

kakashi did say the rinnegan was a mutation and the uchiha clan came from the elder son who inherited the eyes. the rinnegan could have mutated either from a byakugan or normal eyes

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[Narutoed]

Where in the manga does it say that Rikidou Sennin's wife was a Hyuga?

 

[ByakuganSharinganRinnegan]

How do you know if the hyuugas also weren't descendants of the elder brother? They could have both been descendants of the older brother in which one of the hyuugas could have happened to have an eye mutation which turned into the sharingan.

Because the Hyugas are the Oldest clan Kahona has to offer, a character already mentioned it, i forgot who though and on what Manga chapter, and there would be no way the Hyugas are decendants of the elder brother, because the Uchiha's eyes specializes in Ninjustu and Genjustu along with copying the Movements of the opposite user, and recording the Nin and Genjustu the rival uses, and the Mangekyou, and the Hyuga's specializes in Taijustu, sensory and defensives against other users, along with the Fact that the Byakugan has no set backs eccept the blind spot that can be fixed, the Sharingan's nature and Byakugan are too different to be related, too many prices must be paid for the Sharingan to reach full power, prices that makes you turn on a loved one or worse, thats why the hyuga's CANNOT be decendants of the Uchiha.

 

[rollin]

Because the Hyugas are the Oldest clan Kahona has to offer, a character already mentioned it, i forgot who though and on what Manga chapter, and there would be no way the Hyugas are decendants of the elder brother, because the Uchiha's eyes specializes in Ninjustu and Genjustu along with copying the Movements of the opposite user, and recording the Nin and Genjustu the rival uses, and the Mangekyou, and the Hyuga's specializes in Taijustu, sensory and defensives against other users, along with th Fact that the Byakugan has no set backs eccept the blind spot that can be fixed, the Sharingan's nature and Byakugan are too different to be related, too many prices must be paid for the Sharingan to reach full power, prices that makes you turn on a loved one or worse, thats why the hyuga's CANNOT be decendants of the Uchiha.

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[kakashiboy]

kakashi said it , but he only speculated

How can u be a 100% positive kishi never wrote it. Yes I agree that the hyuga clan pre dated so6p. But u cant say that the wife was a hyuga she could have been from a clan with a similar eye but different trait. Why would a hyuga women have a baby with a non hyuga person when that would bring shame to the clan. Maybe so6p was born with does eyes which he inherited from his parents who might be from the hyuga clan but we jux wont know.

 

[fastrthnwind]

Because the Hyugas are the Oldest clan Kahona has to offer, a character already mentioned it, i forgot who though and on what Manga chapter, and there would be no way the Hyugas are decendants of the elder brother, because the Uchiha's eyes specializes in Ninjustu and Genjustu along with copying the Movements of the opposite user, and recording the Nin and Genjustu the rival uses, and the Mangekyou, and the Hyuga's specializes in Taijustu, sensory and defensives against other users, along with th Fact that the Byakugan has no set backs eccept the blind spot that can be fixed, the Sharingan's nature and Byakugan are too different to be related, too many prices must be paid for the Sharingan to reach full power, prices that makes you turn on a loved one or worse, thats why the hyuga's CANNOT be decendants of the Uchiha.

I didn't say they were descendents of the uchiha. I said the uchiha could be descendents of the hyuuga that were descedents of the elder brother. Both clans have eye techniques that allow them to see chakra, though they have other different abilities. It could be that the hyuugas predated them, but had a mutation that turned into the sharingan.

 

[ByakuganSharinganRinnegan]

THat means the senju are decendants of the hyuuga too?

Yes thats what im reffering to, Both The Uchiha and Senju came from a hyuga woman, Rikidou's wife.

 

[fastrthnwind]

Yes thats what im reffering to, Both The Uchiha and Senju came from a hyuga woman, Rikidou's wife.

Then the senju would have the byakugan, plain and simple, which isn't the case here.

 

[ByakuganSharinganRinnegan]

this is my theory on the hyuga clan

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NOOO? its mine, iv watched Naruto since the Childhood 12 year old show came out, i just didnt share my statements because i didnt know where to go, but now i do, dont STEAL what i have found out):

 

[leeko]

....... being able to see far and through thinks mutated into being able to do what the rinnengan and ems does .... i doubt it

 

[ByakuganSharinganRinnegan]

Then the senju would have the byakugan, plain and simple, which isn't the case here.

No the Senju wouldnt have the Byakugan, because a baby takes after the fathers bloodline and race, and the mother's characteristics and physical traits. thats why the Uchiha NOR Senju cant achieve the Byakugan, BUT rinnegan due to the connection to Rikidou sennin's bloodline.

Where in the manga does it say that Rikidou Sennin's wife was a Hyuga?

It dosent, but it was Metaphoricly reffering to his hyuga wife, without exactly saying it, thats what Kishimoto does best, leaving metaphores for us to figure out after months or perhaps a year

I didn't say they were descendents of the uchiha. I said the uchiha could be descendents of the hyuuga that were descedents of the elder brother. Both clans have eye techniques that allow them to see chakra, though they have other different abilities. It could be that the hyuugas predated them, but had a mutation that turned into the sharingan.

Nope, no mutation, the first sharingan user came from a combination of The Rinnegan and Byakuagan's trait A.K.A seeing your Chakra pressure, A.K.A Rikidou Sennin and his Wife. The Sharingan is useless without a large amout of Chakra to use its techniques, The Byakugan in its first form surpasses the 3 tomoe Sharingan because of its better sensory, focus, and Taijustu techniques that takes up the small amounts of chakra in the most simple techniques that can cause the capture or Devastation of an enemy, such as Gentle fist and 8 trigrams depending on the user's skill that is, Byakugan beats sharingan.

 

[fastrthnwind]

No the Senju wouldnt have the Byakugan, because a baby takes after the fathers bloodline and race, and the mother's characteristics and physical traits. thats why the Uchiha NOR Senju cant achieve the Byakugan, BUT rinnegan due to the connection to Rikidou sennin's bloodline.

The baby takes from ANY bloodline. This isn't a genetically patriarcal kind of KKG. Anyone born from a hyuuga will have the byakugan, and it is stated in the databooks itself.

Nope, no mutation, the first sharingan user came from a combination of The Rinnegan and Byakuagan, A.K.A Rikidou Sennin and his Wife.

Please prove this statement.

 

[rollin]

Nope, no mutation, the first sharingan user came from a combination of The Rinnegan and Byakuagan, A.K.A Rikidou Sennin and his Wife.

the first sharingan came from when the elder born son had the eyes and inherited the yin chakra but not the yang chakra

 

[The God of Wind]

dont u guys see? rikudou married a byakugan woman, Naruto will marry Hinata. it makes perfect sense

 

[markdabomb22]

doubt it........alot

 

[TotoroPlushPillow]

I don't think the byakugan had any involvement with the creation of sharingan. What I think is that for the abilities to be totally split, so6p would need a normal wife, seems to be less chance of other bloodline limits mixing. Senju could take after the mother[cause no eye techs] and uchiha take after the sage..
Another crazy theory, but seems possible, is that the so6p used his "creation of all things" jutsu to create two sons, he could have organised their DNA/abilities himself.

 

[ByakuganSharinganRinnegan]

The baby takes from ANY bloodline. This isn't a genetically patriarcal kind of KKG. Anyone born from a hyuuga will have the byakugan, and it is stated in the databooks itself.



Please prove this statement.

Noooo BECAUSE if that were the Case then the SENJU AND UCHIHA would be able to unlock the Byakugan and use its techniques, but they can ONLY achieve the Rinnegan if they have both blood of the Uchiha and Senju in their System, This contradicts and trashes your statement friend.

 

[medal32]

sounds possible

 

[ByakuganSharinganRinnegan]

I don't think the byakugan had any involvement with the creation of sharingan. What I think is that for the abilities to be totally split, so6p would need a normal wife, seems to be less chance of other bloodline limits mixing. Senju could take after the mother[cause no eye techs] and uchiha take after the sage..
Another crazy theory, but seems possible, is that the so6p used his "creation of all things" jutsu to create two sons, he could have organised their DNA/abilities himself.

a theory thats not true, since it wasnt mentioned in the series that the origins of the senju lie with Rikidou's NORMAL wife. only the hyugas were mentioned as the Uchiha's creation into the ninja world. and the theory of The Sage Of 6 Paths MAKING kids WITHOUT a Woman is inpossible and NEVER HAPPENED.

 

[HashiramasStrongerCousin1]

Well, where are the people who believes in the "Naruto gets sent back to the past and becomes the Rikudou Sennin" theories?? Hinata could be the Byakugan woman!