The Golden Byakugan

Is this theory feasible?

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Much of what you say does make good sense. The hyuga preceding the rikudo sage makes sense, and the uchiha coming from that bloodline but also containing the Juubi's sharingan powers also does create a credible theory for how the sharingan came around and why the sharingan is descended in part from the byakugan but is more powerful than it.

Some parts of your theory falls apart. I don't think Zetsu has anything to do with anything. I also don't think the Hyuga created the Juubi. Instead, I think it's more likely that the elder brother mated with a Hyuuga woman, and the children had sharingan. The older brother had his father's rinnegan but also had some weird sharingan power from the Juubi. If you look at the scans, his eyes did have a weird mixture of the two. The sharingan is a weird mixture then between the Byakugan, the Rinnegan, and the Juubi's sharingan-like powers.

The mangekyo sharingan and the EMS is a way for an uchiha to unlock the evil powers of the Juubi: Kill your best friend and then steal eyes from your brother. This turns you evil enough to channel the Juubi's powers. Think about how the Kyubi's power resonates with Naruto when he gets angry, and it's the same idea. All of Sasuke's MS and EMS powers matured when he was angry or in the middle of doing evil things (trying to kidnap the 8-tails, trying to kill Danzo, trying to assassinate the kage, etc).
 

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1. What type of eyes did the Rikudō Sennin have?

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We can clearly see the concentric circles of the Rinnegan. There are no tomoe. The Rikudō Sennin had the Rinnegan.

2. How did the Rikudō Sennin control the Jūbi?

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He did not use a forebear to the Sharingan's genjutsu control. He became the jinchuriki of the Jūbi.

3. From where did the Uchiha come?

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The Uchiha came from the Rikudō Sennin – specifically from his elder brother, who had the eye power of the Rikudō Sennin. We also know that for some reason, the elder brother "believed that might was the key to peace" – he was the corrupt black sheep of the family.

4. From where did the Sharingan come?

From the elder brother? From the Uchiha? Wrong.

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The Sharingan came from the eye of the Jūbi! This isn't the Rikudō Sennin's eye controlling the beast, as he never mind controlled it: he became the host of it. And if he did control it that way, it would be a Rinnegan as it was with Pain controlling his summons. This is the Jūbi's eye, a 9-Tomoe Sharingan!

5. Why do the Uchiha have the Sharingan?

Search your knowledge. The answer is within the text.

"He once saved the world… From a monster…"
"The strongest chakra ever… the Ten-Tailed Beast, the Jūbi."
"The Rikudō Sennin preached the Way of the Ninja and tried to bring peace to the world…"
"The elder… believed that might was the key to peace."
"…this eternal curse of hatred…"


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"You fate has been drenched in blood since the day you were born an Uchiha!"

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The truth is staring us in the face. The Rinnegan is the power of a benevolent god. The Jūbi was a malevolent, sinister monster with the 9-Tomoe Sharingan.

The elder brother's heart was dark, despite his father's good intentions and his younger brother's purity. From his kin came the Sharingan we know. From his 'forsaken ancestry' came the 'accursed' Sharingan and the sinister power of it. A power which would demand sacrifices. Your best friend, your brother. A power 'drenched in blood'. This is not a remnant of the god-like Rinnegan. This brutal, cursed, filthy power is something else.

The elder brother was cursed with the Jūbi's evil power! The Sharingan came from the Jūbi. The Sharingan we know is a filthy mix of the Rinnegan and the 9-Tomoe Sharingan. The only power more sinister than the Kyūbi, the Jūbi, is the source of the Sharingan.

6. What clan is older than the Uchiha and the Senju?

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The evidence is irrefutable: the Hyūga are the oldest clan in Konoha. They are older than the Uchiha as they are older than the Sharingan. They must also therefore be older than the Senju.

7. Can the Hyūga be older than the Rikudō Sennin?

"The founder of the whole ninja world… whose knowledge and skills gave birth to ninjutsu itself."

Ninjutsu. No ninjutsu came before the Rikudō Sennin.

A clan older than the Rikudō Sennin himself, a proud clan that never gave up the ancient techniques it used. A clan like that…

…a clan like that would use only taijutsu. No matter how advanced they were, their every technique would be taijutsu. Older than the inventor of ninjutsu, they would have used nothing else but taijutsu. If they were to survive this long, their style could only be the strongest taijutsu style, a style that can stand against ninjutsu, stand against nintaijutsu (like the Raikage's), stand against anything.

This describes the Hyūga. Older than the Uchiha, older than the Senju, and able to be older than the Rikudō Sennin and older than ninjutsu. An ancient clan: a clan with a secret. A secret worth protecting above all else.

What are the Hyūga guarding? What, in their Byakugan – a bloodline that has only a fraction of the power of the 9-Tomoe Sharingan or Rinnegan – are they so dedicated to defending?

8. Where did the Sharingan originally come from?

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But you knew the answer, don't you? But most of you decided to ignore canon when new information made it really hard to understand.

"The descendants of the elder were called Uchiha."

The Uchiha descended from the Rikudō Sennin's elder son. There was no gap. First descendant, called Uchiha.

So was the Rikudō Sennin a Hyūga? No. If he was, he would have had a Byakugan, not a Rinnegan. And there's a mystery left unsolved. The answer is, again, staring at us.

The Uchiha's origins, as the 'Uchiha', is the story of the Sharingan's origin. The Sharingan predates the Uchiha: the Jūbi possessed the 9-Tomoe Sharingan. The ancient Hyūga predated the Rikudō Sennin, and the origin of the Sharingan – the origin of the Jūbi – lies with them.

9. What created the Jūbi?

Ask yourself this question, and understand that it has an answer.

The Rikudō Sennin was born, and he died. He was mortal, although he had the god-like Rinnegan. In a time before ninjutsu, a time before sealing jutsu, a being more powerful than the Kyūbi was free: the Jūbi. A being that the Rikudō Sennin saved the world from. A sinister being of malice greater than the Kyūbi's, whose remnant lies within the bloody, cursed Uchiha clan.

Why had the Jūbi not destroyed the world long before the Rikudō Sennin was born? How did it come about? These questions need answers. And these questions have answers.

Because the origin of the Sharingan lies with the Hyūga, an ancient clan that predated ninjutsu, predated the Rikudō Sennin.

The Hyūga, or a Hyūga, created the Jūbi. They created the 9-Tomoe Sharingan. The origin of everything lies with them.

But this doesn't answer everything. There are more questions.


10. Why is the Byakugan inferior to the highest-level Sharingan and the Rinnegan?

It's been proven time and time again that the Byakugan is superior to the three-tomoe Sharingan, but the Mangekyō Sharingan? The eternal Mangekyō Sharingan? The 9-Tomoe Sharingan, with which Madara could cast the planet in an infinite, eternal genjutsu – Mugen Tsukuyomi?

And the Rinnegan is a god-like power, capable of almost anything. Compared to this, the Byakugan is weak. Ancient, but weak.

Why?

The Hyūga, or a Hyūga, created the Jūbi. And something changed after that.

The Jūbi, the "strongest chakra ever" came from the Hyūga's true eye power. But thereafter the power was lost. A remnant of it lives on in the blood of the elder brother of the Rikudō Sennin. Some of the Jūbi's corrupted power flowed from the Rikudō Sennin, who controlled it as a 'part' of him, into his firstborn son, through his seed.

The rest of the Jūbi's power lies in the bijū, the strongest of which is the Kyūbi. All of that power was the Hyūga's eye power. All of that is rightfully the Hyūga's. And now that it is lost, the Byakugan is but a shadow of what it once was.

11. This true power of the Hyūga, the power that created everything… what was it called?

Search your feelings. You know the answer.

A power beyond the Byakugan, the true power of the Hyūga, a power surpassing all the bijū and the Uchiha. The name of that power is known to us, and it has been for years.

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It's the Golden Byakugan. The greatest power in the Naruto universe.

There are questions I still have… why the Hyūga created the Jūbi… why they 'lost' to the Rikudō Sennin… and of course, Zetsu's part in all of this, manipulating Madara to recreate the Hyūga's power. Killing all the Uchiha so that all the Jūbi's lost chakra would be concentrated in one shinobi? Bringing the bijū together? The Jūbi is being recreated so that Zetsu, who absorbed Hizashi's Byakugan, can possess the Golden Byakugan. But I don't know everything yet. I will soon, and once I do I'll tell you…
thats what up. in time they will tie all these answers together but
what about that guy that was will raiga his name was ramaru he had an eye power aswell that was the hyuuga clans weakness
 

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This thread kinda got me thinking..
If the Uchiha Clan was said to come from the Hyuga clan ; ..
The uchiha's have a more powereful version of the sharingan: the mangekyo.
So why don't the Hyugas have a more powerful and unlocked version of their
Byakgun as well ; since the Uchiha clan came from the Hyuga.
 

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It's possible in ways,but impossible in ways,Golden Byakugan,think about the name,if it does make sense,why golden,is it because of Zetsu,or just that,how can Zetsu,someone not from the Hyuga clan,awaken a new level of the Hyuuga clans kekkai genkai which other people from the Hyuga clan cannot awaken.And,this might be wrong,but maybe the Hyuuga clan is the oldest one in Konoha,The Uchiha clan and The Senju clan wasn't born in Konoha,and they founded the village,Kakashi might've been wrong.............
 

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um i think that sosps older son descendants were the hyuga and the hyugas descendents were uchiha and the youngers descendants uzumaki whos descendants were senju
 

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1. What type of eyes did the Rikudō Sennin have?

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We can clearly see the concentric circles of the Rinnegan. There are no tomoe. The Rikudō Sennin had the Rinnegan.

2. How did the Rikudō Sennin control the Jūbi?

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He did not use a forebear to the Sharingan's genjutsu control. He became the jinchuriki of the Jūbi.

3. From where did the Uchiha come?

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The Uchiha came from the Rikudō Sennin – specifically from his elder brother, who had the eye power of the Rikudō Sennin. We also know that for some reason, the elder brother "believed that might was the key to peace" – he was the corrupt black sheep of the family.

4. From where did the Sharingan come?

From the elder brother? From the Uchiha? Wrong.

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The Sharingan came from the eye of the Jūbi! This isn't the Rikudō Sennin's eye controlling the beast, as he never mind controlled it: he became the host of it. And if he did control it that way, it would be a Rinnegan as it was with Pain controlling his summons. This is the Jūbi's eye, a 9-Tomoe Sharingan!

5. Why do the Uchiha have the Sharingan?

Search your knowledge. The answer is within the text.

"He once saved the world… From a monster…"
"The strongest chakra ever… the Ten-Tailed Beast, the Jūbi."
"The Rikudō Sennin preached the Way of the Ninja and tried to bring peace to the world…"
"The elder… believed that might was the key to peace."
"…this eternal curse of hatred…"


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"You fate has been drenched in blood since the day you were born an Uchiha!"

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You must be registered for see images

The truth is staring us in the face. The Rinnegan is the power of a benevolent god. The Jūbi was a malevolent, sinister monster with the 9-Tomoe Sharingan.

The elder brother's heart was dark, despite his father's good intentions and his younger brother's purity. From his kin came the Sharingan we know. From his 'forsaken ancestry' came the 'accursed' Sharingan and the sinister power of it. A power which would demand sacrifices. Your best friend, your brother. A power 'drenched in blood'. This is not a remnant of the god-like Rinnegan. This brutal, cursed, filthy power is something else.

The elder brother was cursed with the Jūbi's evil power! The Sharingan came from the Jūbi. The Sharingan we know is a filthy mix of the Rinnegan and the 9-Tomoe Sharingan. The only power more sinister than the Kyūbi, the Jūbi, is the source of the Sharingan.

6. What clan is older than the Uchiha and the Senju?

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The evidence is irrefutable: the Hyūga are the oldest clan in Konoha. They are older than the Uchiha as they are older than the Sharingan. They must also therefore be older than the Senju.

7. Can the Hyūga be older than the Rikudō Sennin?

"The founder of the whole ninja world… whose knowledge and skills gave birth to ninjutsu itself."

Ninjutsu. No ninjutsu came before the Rikudō Sennin.

A clan older than the Rikudō Sennin himself, a proud clan that never gave up the ancient techniques it used. A clan like that…

…a clan like that would use only taijutsu. No matter how advanced they were, their every technique would be taijutsu. Older than the inventor of ninjutsu, they would have used nothing else but taijutsu. If they were to survive this long, their style could only be the strongest taijutsu style, a style that can stand against ninjutsu, stand against nintaijutsu (like the Raikage's), stand against anything.

This describes the Hyūga. Older than the Uchiha, older than the Senju, and able to be older than the Rikudō Sennin and older than ninjutsu. An ancient clan: a clan with a secret. A secret worth protecting above all else.

What are the Hyūga guarding? What, in their Byakugan – a bloodline that has only a fraction of the power of the 9-Tomoe Sharingan or Rinnegan – are they so dedicated to defending?

8. Where did the Sharingan originally come from?

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But you knew the answer, don't you? But most of you decided to ignore canon when new information made it really hard to understand.

"The descendants of the elder were called Uchiha."

The Uchiha descended from the Rikudō Sennin's elder son. There was no gap. First descendant, called Uchiha.

So was the Rikudō Sennin a Hyūga? No. If he was, he would have had a Byakugan, not a Rinnegan. And there's a mystery left unsolved. The answer is, again, staring at us.

The Uchiha's origins, as the 'Uchiha', is the story of the Sharingan's origin. The Sharingan predates the Uchiha: the Jūbi possessed the 9-Tomoe Sharingan. The ancient Hyūga predated the Rikudō Sennin, and the origin of the Sharingan – the origin of the Jūbi – lies with them.

9. What created the Jūbi?

Ask yourself this question, and understand that it has an answer.

The Rikudō Sennin was born, and he died. He was mortal, although he had the god-like Rinnegan. In a time before ninjutsu, a time before sealing jutsu, a being more powerful than the Kyūbi was free: the Jūbi. A being that the Rikudō Sennin saved the world from. A sinister being of malice greater than the Kyūbi's, whose remnant lies within the bloody, cursed Uchiha clan.

Why had the Jūbi not destroyed the world long before the Rikudō Sennin was born? How did it come about? These questions need answers. And these questions have answers.

Because the origin of the Sharingan lies with the Hyūga, an ancient clan that predated ninjutsu, predated the Rikudō Sennin.

The Hyūga, or a Hyūga, created the Jūbi. They created the 9-Tomoe Sharingan. The origin of everything lies with them.

But this doesn't answer everything. There are more questions.


10. Why is the Byakugan inferior to the highest-level Sharingan and the Rinnegan?

It's been proven time and time again that the Byakugan is superior to the three-tomoe Sharingan, but the Mangekyō Sharingan? The eternal Mangekyō Sharingan? The 9-Tomoe Sharingan, with which Madara could cast the planet in an infinite, eternal genjutsu – Mugen Tsukuyomi?

And the Rinnegan is a god-like power, capable of almost anything. Compared to this, the Byakugan is weak. Ancient, but weak.

Why?

The Hyūga, or a Hyūga, created the Jūbi. And something changed after that.

The Jūbi, the "strongest chakra ever" came from the Hyūga's true eye power. But thereafter the power was lost. A remnant of it lives on in the blood of the elder brother of the Rikudō Sennin. Some of the Jūbi's corrupted power flowed from the Rikudō Sennin, who controlled it as a 'part' of him, into his firstborn son, through his seed.

The rest of the Jūbi's power lies in the bijū, the strongest of which is the Kyūbi. All of that power was the Hyūga's eye power. All of that is rightfully the Hyūga's. And now that it is lost, the Byakugan is but a shadow of what it once was.

11. This true power of the Hyūga, the power that created everything… what was it called?

Search your feelings. You know the answer.

A power beyond the Byakugan, the true power of the Hyūga, a power surpassing all the bijū and the Uchiha. The name of that power is known to us, and it has been for years.

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It's the Golden Byakugan. The greatest power in the Naruto universe.

There are questions I still have… why the Hyūga created the Jūbi… why they 'lost' to the Rikudō Sennin… and of course, Zetsu's part in all of this, manipulating Madara to recreate the Hyūga's power. Killing all the Uchiha so that all the Jūbi's lost chakra would be concentrated in one shinobi? Bringing the bijū together? The Jūbi is being recreated so that Zetsu, who absorbed Hizashi's Byakugan, can possess the Golden Byakugan. But I don't know everything yet. I will soon, and once I do I'll tell you…
the idea does seam far fetched. but at the same time it could be possiable. I mean zetsu is still the only akatsuki alive besides Madara. could he be the master mind behind all this ? Maybe, Maybe not. We have very little information on zetsu. But we do no that he is basically the army. excluding kabuto and his little minions and madara. But back to what i was saying. your prediction may just be correct, OR more than likely its wrong.
 

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Looks like you put some effort in the Theory. But I think Kishi sorta left off on the Byakugan heritage. There is no way to confirm it or not. But I can tell you he didn't get Neji's dad's Byakugan. His was sealed. I liked where it was going before Zetsu got involved.
 

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<div class="bbWrapper">A very nice theory bt too long.<br /> Also, some parts need solid evidence like the Jetsu part. Also, that Hyuga is older than the Rikudo himself.</div>
 

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Ur theory is great but There are some things I don't like if Zetsu has the golden Byakugan why hasn't he pwned every one yet?

Why didn't you explain where the renningan came from also why did the renningan occur again in an Uzumaki and not a Descendant of the elder son. Or even where is or what happened to the other variants of the of the sages eye's.
 
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