The first four Hokage are faster than Sasuke?

[Penguin]

While it could be true that Izuna and Madara were equals, that could have either been from Itachi's point of view or it could have been biased based on what Madara told Obito who may have told Itachi.

We cannot forget that just because something is stated by a character, that means it to automatically be true. If that were the case, MANY things would be true. Characters are designed to have their own opinions that may or may not differ from the authors point of view.

Nothing a character says ever REALLY comes from "Kishi himself". They come from what Kishi thinks that particular character may or may not believe. If it were true that everything the manga stated was true, Sasuke would be dead.

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Ya. When the manga contradicts MS Izuna = MS Madara talk to me.

 

[Optimistic]

Post the VIZ then. You mad at the manga? XD

Real Viz translation of that page: From when they were children,The two constantly tested and honed their skills against each other.

eventually they both awakened their sharingan...
...And made names for themselves within and outside of their clan.

The two continued to push each other,ever seeking to advance their ocular powers.

Thus the two...
Above is the real translation not the NB one here.

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Or you could ask someone else for the viz if you choose not to believe me.End of the day your just wanking over Tobirama every chance you get when the manga says otherwise.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

Common sense.

I know he did. They all would've.

It's a little bit different given the scenario, hence the creation of the thread. Hawk don't have time to mess around, no one does. In fact, Minato saved the alliance just in the nick of time.

So... Since Hawk came in all at the same time, that means that Juugo is exactly the same speed as Sasuke? It very well could have been that Sasuke was trying to stay away in order for the Kages to form the seal around the Juubi.

Considering once the barrier was put up, we immediately saw Sasuke.

 

[Penguin]

Real Viz translation of that page: From when they were children,The two constantly tested and honed their skills against each other.

eventually they both awakened their sharingan...
...And made names for themselves within and outside of their clan.

The two continued to push each other,ever seeking to advance their ocular powers.

Thus the two...
Above is the real translation not the NB one here.

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Or you could ask someone else for the viz if you choose not to believe me.End of the day your just wanking over Tobirama every chance you get when the manga says otherwise.

How does that prove that MS Madara > MS Izuna in any way?

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

Ya. When the manga contradicts MS Izuna = MS Madara talk to me.

Kind of does considering that Izuna died against the lesser of the two brothers.

If they were equals in every way, why did Izuna die against Tobirama? Or you mean to tell me Madara would have died against him in the same situation?

 

[Fodder#4]

Yep. Old Hiruzen is as fast as the other Hokage's bar Minato. Prime Hiruzen's Shushin speed is unrivaled. Manga phax courtesy of Kaant!

 

[Optimistic]

How does that prove that MS Madara > MS Izuna in any way?

Are you stupid or what? Not only does Izuna have no feats but Madara the elder and stronger brother was elected as the leader.The other guy comprehended the truth why is it so hard for you.

 

[ANiMUS]

Actually, Sasuke and his group probably discussed something before coming, hence Juugo's confusion.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

So... Since Hawk came in all at the same time, that means that Juugo is exactly the same speed as Sasuke? It very well could have been that Sasuke was trying to stay away in order for the Kages to form the seal around the Juubi.

Considering once the barrier was put up, we immediately saw Sasuke.

Well I personally have no idea how fast Jugo is. You've still not given me a good reason why Sasuke would take his time.

Sasuke trying to stay away? Yet people with far lower skill (Essentially fodders.) were more than happy to fight but Sasuke wasn't? Doesn't really do it for me.

Watevz. Going to bed. Just doesn't make sense to me.

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

Tobirama teleported Hashirama with him while Minato teleported Hiruzen.Hashirama even told Tobirama to prepare his FTG.There isn't anything in the manga that state Sasuke Teleported to the battlefield.

 

[EternalFlame]

Minato and Tobirama are faster then Sasuke even though FTG technically isn't "speed"

By feats, Sasuke is faster then Hashirama and Hiruzen.

 

[Tobby17]

well they did leave before Sasuke

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so it only makes sense they get there before him

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[Rainbow Dash]

All of them are faster than Sasuke by far.

Minato is obviously faster.

Hashirama was able to outrun Perfect Susanoo and the Kyuubi on his feet. That's faster than anything Sasuke has ever done. Hiruzen and Tobirama arrived at the exact same time Hashirama did, so it's safe to say that Hiruzen and Tobirama can also outrun Perfect Susanoo on their feet.

 

[Xāvî1]

Hiruzen is definitely slower than Sasuke. I think Sasuke walked there.

i agree here

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

i agree here

Well you can't really.

All of them are faster than Sasuke by far.

Minato is obviously faster.

Hashirama was able to outrun Perfect Susanoo and the Kyuubi on his feet. That's faster than anything Sasuke has ever done. Hiruzen and Tobirama arrived at the exact same time Hashirama did, so it's safe to say that Hiruzen and Tobirama can also outrun Perfect Susanoo on their feet.

That's a very good point.

@Tobby, you should really look at the next page of your scans.