The final getsuga tenshou..?

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since zangetsu didn't want to teach it, it must have a tremendous power. i do beleve that it will have a great concentration of ichigo's retsu. the ability to condence the retsu it should be able to demolish all mater like anti matter
 
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One logic i wonder why everyone is missing... when Isshin appeared he pulled up a getsuga... which means his sword is related to zangetsu. Remember horimaru? well turns out there where 2 horimaru in soul society... so its but normal that isshin has a zangetsu or atleast a zangetsu twin which is why he knows much about zangetsu....and isshin being the more experience knows there is a final getsuga which i think for some reasons he did not obtain and thinks ichigo can obtain it.
That was from a movie, the movies on Bleach do not relate whatsoever to the manga or essentially the storyline in general. They are fillers.
 

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One logic i wonder why everyone is missing... when Isshin appeared he pulled up a getsuga... which means his sword is related to zangetsu. Remember horimaru? well turns out there where 2 horimaru in soul society... so its but normal that isshin has a zangetsu or atleast a zangetsu twin which is why he knows much about zangetsu....and isshin being the more experience knows there is a final getsuga which i think for some reasons he did not obtain and thinks ichigo can obtain it.
Thats because his zanpaktou is Engetsu
 

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the black getsuga was hollow ichigos technique ichigo used the white one way before.

Im sure ishin knows about his vizard form but i dont see it being related to the final getsuga in anyway.
It has nothing to do with his hollow form in anyway.
If you saw the chapter where it showed him talking to Tensei Zangetsu you would see that he has to kill his hollow form to learn the final Tenshou.
 

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Yeah Ichigo is no doubt gonna get the move and its gonna be BadA!! I also wonder if hes gonna acquire that form when he fought ulquiorra(no idea how to spell his name) and combine it with his GT. Hopefully its enough to beat Aizen cause right now nothing seems to be working.
 

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I have read somewhere on Google saying that Ichigo Final Getsuga is some type of Power Sealing Technique.

It would make sense that the Bankai Resemble the Power Sealing Image as the Hilt of the Sword is a Symbol of Power and the Chain from it stand for Sealing ?

Why wouldn't Zangetsu teach Ichigo this ? Remember he said "What you wanted to protect is not what I wanted to protect ?"

My guess :

The Final Getsuga will consume all Spiritual Power from Ichigo and even Zangetsu Himself to seal off someone's Spiritual Power and Ability. Therefore, Ichigo would lose all power and at the same time sealing off Aizen's power ?

Because Ichigo will lose power, so his Inner world will collapse ? and as a Zanpakutou Zangetsu just doesn't want Ichigo to lose his power....It is as simple as that.

That is one of the reason why Ishin lost his power too ? Who know what he used to seal off. Probably, Aizen's Dad KAKAKAKAKA.

Aizen's dad was somewhat in soul society, and got flamed on something, and being punished. His power was washed away with Isshin Final Getsuga. Aizen couldn't stand this JUDGEMENT. Therefore, he hold GRUDGE against the whole Soul Society. He wanted to tear it apart to rebuild what he would call "Justice." ?

My 1 cent Theory to kill time. Enjoy
 

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One logic i wonder why everyone is missing... when Isshin appeared he pulled up a getsuga... which means his sword is related to zangetsu. Remember horimaru? well turns out there where 2 horimaru in soul society... so its but normal that isshin has a zangetsu or atleast a zangetsu twin which is why he knows much about zangetsu....and isshin being the more experience knows there is a final getsuga which i think for some reasons he did not obtain and thinks ichigo can obtain it.
I agree with you.
 

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That was from a movie, the movies on Bleach do not relate whatsoever to the manga or essentially the storyline in general. They are fillers.
huh? captains are captains, ichigo is ichigo and all the abilities are same, so it is in one way or the other RELATED. Nice u said they are fillers, yeah fillers to clear us all up on the main storyline. still those fillers that told us some of those vizard where once captains by seretei... so presumming itsfrom the same author, one thing has to do with the other, be it manga, movie or anime :)
i stick to my point, ichigo and his dad got a twin sword, thats why ishhin knows more about its abilities than his freshman shinigami son ichigo
 

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Ok here's a theory I have been throwing around, you guys tell me what you think. The reason that Ishin knows the sword is because he has basically the same sword. Whatever power allowed him to have a Human child also allowed him to pass his power on to his son. I think that Urahara helped him seal his powers to live like a human and doing so caused his children to inherit his powers or parts of them. That is why "Zengetsu" looks just like Ishin, he is his sword. Now that Ishin has regained his powers Ichigo is left with only his own powers so his "Engestu" looks like him now. I have left a few details out of this theory because they relate to my overall theory of the bleach universe and not this thread, my apologies if this has made this post unclear.
 

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Umm is everyone missing the fact that Ichigo will probably come out of this with more than a new attack? He will probably gain control of his new hollow form.. the vasto lorde form... Albiet it will probably look different from when he fought Ulquiorra... but he will have it's power nonetheless!
 

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Ok here's a theory I have been throwing around, you guys tell me what you think. The reason that Ishin knows the sword is because he has basically the same sword. Whatever power allowed him to have a Human child also allowed him to pass his power on to his son. I think that Urahara helped him seal his powers to live like a human and doing so caused his children to inherit his powers or parts of them. That is why "Zengetsu" looks just like Ishin, he is his sword. Now that Ishin has regained his powers Ichigo is left with only his own powers so his "Engestu" looks like him now. I have left a few details out of this theory because they relate to my overall theory of the bleach universe and not this thread, my apologies if this has made this post unclear.
that tidily sums up my opinion on the issue. nice post

Isshin is clearly a shinigami of great strength - this coupled with the captains haori (cloak) he wore you have to assume that he was the previous Squad 0 captain.

so the bigger Qs are why did he leave and go into hiding and what role does ichigos mother play in the past. cos i doubt a shinigami would just up and leave for a normal human girl...

long betting on this but id say either shes in some way related to the royal family (if isshin isnt) or she was a VL. long shot i know but it ties in with Aizen stating that ichigo had the best raw potential for him to work with
 

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Maybe its not even a technique, its just his ability to be in the awesome hollow mode that he was in when he beat ulquiorra and still be conscious of what hes doing. And that form would also get upgrades.
 

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that tidily sums up my opinion on the issue. nice post

Isshin is clearly a shinigami of great strength - this coupled with the captains haori (cloak) he wore you have to assume that he was the previous Squad 0 captain.

so the bigger Qs are why did he leave and go into hiding and what role does ichigos mother play in the past. cos i doubt a shinigami would just up and leave for a normal human girl...

long betting on this but id say either shes in some way related to the royal family (if isshin isnt) or she was a VL. long shot i know but it ties in with Aizen stating that ichigo had the best raw potential for him to work with
I don't think a Vasto Lorde would be killed by the Grand Fisher! lol
 

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I don't think a Vasto Lorde would be killed by the Grand Fisher! lol
xd thats fosho
yes :flaw: thats blindingly clear...

but one thats sealed inside a fancy gigai ? in the same way that isshin would have been unable to do anything when the very first hollow attacked. or in any other event up until the point where he gets his powers back.

longshot maybe.:| but the logic at least is sound :no_ignore:
 

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since zangetsu didn't want to teach it, it must have a tremendous power. i do beleve that it will have a great concentration of ichigo's retsu. the ability to condence the retsu it should be able to demolish all mater like anti matter
Maybe he doesn't want to teach it because it is weak. Maybe user's sword turns into a lollipop. :p
 

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maybe if u combine the theory of the final getsuga sealing the power of the user and its opponent. With Ichigos mom being a vasto lord hollow???

We have seen plenty of nice hollow at this point they all dont seem to be in an evil kill kill kill mind frame. Maybe Isshin came across his wife on a mission and relized she wasnt evil and they felt that the war between Shinigami and Hollow didn't have to be. When soul society found out about this they would try to kill or punish Isshin and find this Hollow hes been hanging it with and kill her. Then Isshin used his final getsuga sealed there powers so they could live in the real world hidden from soul society and where they started a family, raising super children with Shinigami and Hollow powers. But as time went on Isshin sealing technique may have started to wear off. Which would explain why the grand fisher was drawn to Ichigos mom and why Isshin can fight Aizen now.
 
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