The Fallen Angels vs NB secret Corp

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Stop godmoding. Nowhere in that group did we flame anyone or called them names.

We only went to come up with strategies to deal with certain KGs and bios...and that's that.

Again, I don't see the point of a war...and that's that. So f*ck off, TFA...
It was in the other threads O_O
And I only recently saw this, but it looks fun. =/
So chill out.
 
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ur dead i dont need hand seals with EMS xd
Regarding everyone;
I just thought I should give my input on this.

Firstly using a Dojutsu like this one and saying it automatically works is GodModing is has the prerequisite of the target to actually look into the eyes of the Dojutsu user. Saying it works is no different then controling Kiwii's character.

Secondly I'm pretty sure if the first move is rendered useless anything after that time frame is cancled. For example The dojutsu doens't work thus Kaito doesn't "Finish" with lightning. As it wasn't done simutaniously that gives the other user time to react and stop these sorts of things. The fact that the RP is done in 3 jutsu format doesn't mean that all 3 happen.
Another example: I use a b-rank wind jutsu then a c-rank fire jutsu resulting in a large a-rank fire jutsu, my opponent cancles my wind jutsu with a genjutsu then I will not do either the wind nor fire jutsu. [Correct?]
 

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This is strictly Bais'd on other sites/forums I've RP'd on and may not FULLY apply to this. However I don't see how Kaito could "Finish" with a Lightning jutsu if his first attack didn't even work.
 

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Site is full of arrogance and corrupt mods. Not all but some, sad to see so much people take pride in a online Rp? game. And by pride i mean my **** is bigger then yours mentality. I mean I just don't see how I use EMS one genjutsu, your dead, is any fun.

btw naruto survived a forrbidin jutsu against the fuma clan, in the anime hunting for Oro. Maybe it counts maybe it dosen't, oh well.
 

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you get hit by a forbidden, you got pwnt. C'mon, be serious. Here in this RP if you get hit by a B-rank there is a high possibility you're dead.
And I don't think Madara needs handseals. =\
 

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you get hit by a forbidden, you got pwnt. C'mon, be serious. Here in this RP if you get hit by a B-rank there is a high possibility you're dead.
And I don't think Madara needs handseals. =\
I won't quote anymore. Please check my previous answer for your argument.

1. There's no rule that says Madara doesn't need handseals
2. Even if he doesn't need, it would only apply to relatively weak justu, like A and bellow. Not Forbidden. If the jutsu has no handseals, how could he be approved? It's a forbidden without restriction? Then your awesome rp mods are not doing their job properly.

I only said that I'm defeated because I didn't want to argue right from the start, but in truth, his move was all wrong. But no, Rp mods only want to focus on the minor things
 

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you get hit by a forbidden, you got pwnt. C'mon, be serious. Here in this RP if you get hit by a B-rank there is a high possibility you're dead.
And I don't think Madara needs handseals. =\
Read my post a few up from this one. The very first move was Godmoded and that made the rest of the moves invalad because the situation would have been different. They just continued to argue about something that didn't matter because the dojutsu doesn't effect anyone.
 

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Fine, Forbidden Rank kills.

Kaito, it's your turn.

My genjutsu blocks your forbidden jutsu.
*sigh* dont make me laugh kiwi ur acting noobish now who do you think i am

a genjutsu of D rank O_O i dont need hand seals as it is and i can see

through your genjutsu it has no affect on me what so ever so your still dead
 

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*sigh* dont make me laugh kiwi ur acting noobish now who do you think i am

a genjutsu of D rank O_O i dont need hand seals as it is and i can see

through your genjutsu it has no affect on me what so ever so your still dead
That seems like a very noobish argument, in my opinion.

I read the jutsu and it says that when the person attempts to preform handseals or concentrate, he/she gets a spasm of pain that blocks their concetration and thus their jutsu. And your jutsu requires you to expell Lightning Chakra so powerfull that it reaches Forbidden Rank and then shape them into shards, and then controll them into covering 360 degrees of your opponent. That's more then in the description of the gen.

Sharingans allow you to see through a gen, and know when you are or not. But it doesn't say that you don't get the same effects as if you haven't the Sharingan. The fact is that by knowing something is a genjutsu, Sharinga users were able to ignore it, and thus act like it doesn't affects. In this case, even though you now you're under a genjutsu, as you try to concentrate you feel the sudden spasm. Not much for the pain, but for this sudden effect. And it's your body that feels it, not your sight.

The fact that it is a D-Rank doesn't necessarily means it's weak. It can also means it's simple or easy to do. In this case it isn't weak, it's just pretty basic. You aren't immune to it. If it was based on putting you into an extended period of pain, your rank and endurance would make you immune to it, in little time. But this sudden effect is what makes the jutsu brilliant.

And the no handseals thing, I think you're wrong, and a second Mod/Sensei should check it and then add it in the KG Restrictions jutsu.

Nothing further to add, so I'd like to conclude my post saying Kiwii's move is valid and it's now you're turn to counter it.
 

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That seems like a very noobish argument, in my opinion.

I read the jutsu and it says that when the person attempts to preform handseals or concentrate, he/she gets a spasm of pain that blocks their concetration and thus their jutsu. And your jutsu requires you to expell Lightning Chakra so powerfull that it reaches Forbidden Rank and then shape them into shards, and then controll them into covering 360 degrees of your opponent. That's more then in the description of the gen.

Sharingans allow you to see through a gen, and know when you are or not. But it doesn't say that you don't get the same effects as if you haven't the Sharingan. The fact is that by knowing something is a genjutsu, Sharinga users were able to ignore it, and thus act like it doesn't affects. In this case, even though you now you're under a genjutsu, as you try to concentrate you feel the sudden spasm. Not much for the pain, but for this sudden effect. And it's your body that feels it, not your sight.

The fact that it is a D-Rank doesn't necessarily means it's weak. It can also means it's simple or easy to do. In this case it isn't weak, it's just pretty basic. You aren't immune to it. If it was based on putting you into an extended period of pain, your rank and endurance would make you immune to it, in little time. But this sudden effect is what makes the jutsu brilliant.

And the no handseals thing, I think you're wrong, and a second Mod/Sensei should check it and then add it in the KG Restrictions jutsu.

Nothing further to add, so I'd like to conclude my post saying Kiwii's move is valid and it's now you're turn to counter it.
*sigh* the affects are produced by the genjutsu thus because i can see through the genjutsu they dont work thus allowing me to perform the lightning jutsu ?_?
 

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Orange, genjutsu is manipulating the signal the brain receives from the body. If a sharingan user can "See through" the effects that means that the genjutsu is not affecting the signals at all. He wouldn't feel anything because it wouldn't exsist.

My arguement is that the Dojutsu wasn't established to hit as neither specified making eye contact. If no eye contact is made then hand signals are needed in order for the jutsu to work. Based on the way Kaito worded it he didn't do BOTH at the same time yet one after the other. This means that if the first move is countered his moves afterwards are pointless because he doesn't get the alotted time to counter a counter so to say.
 

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Orange, genjutsu is manipulating the signal the brain receives from the body. If a sharingan user can "See through" the effects that means that the genjutsu is not affecting the signals at all. He wouldn't feel anything because it wouldn't exsist.

My arguement is that the Dojutsu wasn't established to hit as neither specified making eye contact. If no eye contact is made then hand signals are needed in order for the jutsu to work. Based on the way Kaito worded it he didn't do BOTH at the same time yet one after the other. This means that if the first move is countered his moves afterwards are pointless because he doesn't get the alotted time to counter a counter so to say.
also il add again kiwi is dead A rank wind Cannot beat Forbidden ranked lightning style its a 2 rank different fair enough if kiwi used the severing pressure but he didnt thus he failed to defend against my lightning tech and lost
 

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also il add again kiwi is dead A rank wind Cannot beat Forbidden ranked lightning style its a 2 rank different fair enough if kiwi used the severing pressure but he didnt thus he failed to defend against my lightning tech and lost
Ok lets assume your Dojutsu didn't work, he then used a quicker jutsu then a forbidden one, [Assuming quickest is E-Rank and Longest is S/Forbidden Rank.] His attack would have hit you before you were done your hand signs correct? [Not like this conversation matters as Kiwi is banned I just want to gain furter understanding of both perspectives. xP]
 

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Ok lets assume your Dojutsu didn't work, he then used a quicker jutsu then a forbidden one, [Assuming quickest is E-Rank and Longest is S/Forbidden Rank.] His attack would have hit you before you were done your hand signs correct? [Not like this conversation matters as Kiwi is banned I just want to gain furter understanding of both perspectives. xP]
like i have already stated i dont need hand seals with EMS and i can see through his genjutsu nullifying any affect it has then the wind attack to try countering my lightning failed because it was 2 ranks below these are facts and thus kiwi lost
 
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