The evolutions of the Byakugan.

[Tauren Chieftain]

You faps so insecure you cant read your own posts? LB called it a natural awakening not even 2 posts above. Why are replying to me by shadow post. Claimin the Tenseigan is better than the Rinnegan when its about the evolution of byakugan?

You guys act so queer. Get a room with that nonsense.

Don't be so upset kid . I am not referring to you. So calm down when I want I will reply to you directly.

 

[Made in Heaven]

That doesn't take away from my main point. Unlike the sharingan it doesn't need outside factors to unlock MS/EMS. Hamura himself is direct descendant of kaguya just like Hagoromo. Their abilities cannot be considered any kind natural progression for the sharingan or the byakugan because of their heritage. If the Tenseigan is a natural progression of the byakugan Toneri wouldn't need these outside traits and requirements to unlock it. Just my 2 cents.

I agree with you for the most part. I personally think Jougan is a natural Byakugan evolution and Tenseigan is something Hamura acquired through eating a Chakra Fruit after leaving Earth. Hence why only his descendants have it and not other Ootsutsukis like Kaguya or Momoshiki. But as of now, with what we do know, Tenseigan naturally awakens in Hamura's Ootsutsuki descendants as long as they have Byakugan eyes in their sockets while Jougan is connected to the Ootsutsuki's ability to Dimension jump.

Bottom line, both the Tenseigan and Jougan's requirements are still pretty vague, but as of now, Tenseigan appears to be natural, though I do think that will not be the case, and the Jougan appears to be how they jump across and observe dimensions.

 

[uhmusddy]

That doesn't take away from my main point. Unlike the sharingan it doesn't need outside factors to unlock MS/EMS. Hamura himself is direct descendant of kaguya just like Hagoromo. Their abilities cannot be considered any kind natural progression for the sharingan or the byakugan because of their heritage. If the Tenseigan is a natural progression of the byakugan Toneri wouldn't need these outside traits and requirements to unlock it. Just my 2 cents.

EMS needs outside factors to achieve my guy

almost the same as tenseigan too so I'm confused

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Lol haters are hilarious how they ignore blatant facts

The tenseigan literally came from the byakugan

Mostly insecure uchiha fapboys.

 

[Sagebee]

That doesn't take away from my main point. Unlike the sharingan it doesn't need outside factors to unlock MS/EMS. Hamura himself is direct descendant of kaguya just like Hagoromo. Their abilities cannot be considered any kind natural progression for the sharingan or the byakugan because of their heritage. If the Tenseigan is a natural progression of the byakugan Toneri wouldn't need these outside traits and requirements to unlock it. Just my 2 cents.

Ems and tenseigan are awakened in same way and if hanabi got hamura chakra would of awakened tenweigan like madara awakened rinnegan

 

[Ansatsuken]

That doesn't take away from my main point. Unlike the sharingan it doesn't need outside factors to unlock MS/EMS. Hamura himself is direct descendant of kaguya just like Hagoromo. Their abilities cannot be considered any kind natural progression for the sharingan or the byakugan because of their heritage. If the Tenseigan is a natural progression of the byakugan Toneri wouldn't need these outside traits and requirements to unlock it. Just my 2 cents.

Tenseigan is a natural progression of Hamura's clan Byakugan. Eversince all of Hamura's clan sacrificed all of their Byakugan to powering the alter, they were without eyes a.k.a. blind.

There was no waiting time for Tenseigan awakening seeing that Toneri unlocked it after he obtain a Byakugan eyes unlike Rinnegan. It implies that's the case. It only needs Otsutsuki chakra(Hamura lineage/descent) and Byakugan.

But it limited only to Hamura's clan of Otsutsuki. In a sense its an evolution, natural evolution.

 

[Dantee]

EMS needs outside factors to achieve my guy

almost the same as tenseigan too so I'm confused

We can say that but it only took two users, still alot of mystery behind unlocking EMS but the most natural progression for a Uchiha is sharingan >MS I agree.

@LB Toneri had some of energy vesell in him so he didnt just implant some random eyes. It was alot of factors.

 

[Made in Heaven]

@LB Toneri had some of energy vesell in him so he didnt just implant some random eyes. It was alot of factors.

What are you talking about? When'd that happen?

 

[Dantee]

Tenseigan is a natural progression of Hamura's clan Byakugan. Eversince all of Hamura's clan sacrificed all of their Byakugan to powering the alter, they were without eyes a.k.a. blind.

There was no waiting time for Tenseigan awakening seeing that Toneri unlocked it after he obtain a Byakugan eyes unlike Rinnegan. It implies that's the case. It only needs Otsutsuki chakra(Hamura lineage/descent) and Byakugan.

But it limited only to Hamura's clan of Otsutsuki. In a sense its an evolution, natural evolution.

Ansa explained it. @LB i should rewatch the Last its been a while

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

What are you talking about? When'd that happen?

Never ,half of them didn't even watch the movie , they don't know the difference between tenseigan energy vessel and tenseigan eyes. Yet despite all of this they like to argue about those stuff and even mock others .

 

[Made in Heaven]

Never ,half of them didn't even watch the movie , they don't know the difference between tenseigan energy vessel and tenseigan eyes. Yet despite all of this they like to argue about those stuff and even mock others .

Yeah, I figured.

 

[Dantee]

Never ,half of them didn't even watch the movie , they don't know the difference between tenseigan energy vessel and tenseigan eyes. Yet despite all of this they like to argue about those stuff and even mock others .

ya still need alien chakra tho right.

 

[Rock Slayer]

That doesn't take away from my main point. Unlike the sharingan it doesn't need outside factors to unlock MS/EMS. Hamura himself is direct descendant of kaguya just like Hagoromo. Their abilities cannot be considered any kind natural progression for the sharingan or the byakugan because of their heritage. If the Tenseigan is a natural progression of the byakugan Toneri wouldn't need these outside traits and requirements to unlock it. Just my 2 cents.

But the same can be said for the sharingan. When you have the MS you need to transplant an eye from a sibling to unlock the EMS.

 

[Belserion]

Momoshiki and Kinshiki are also Ototsukis who couldn't do shit to Susano'o with Bykaugan based techniques.

It takes someone like Kaguya to accomplish such a feat.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

What says it can go vice versa? Clearly, Hinata failed to awaken the Tenseigan, so that alone proves the process cannot be reversed. Meaning Hyuuga can't awaken the Tenseigan, even if they somehow manage to obtain Hamura chakra, since Hinata herself failed with all that hype about her being the Hyuuga princess.

But we do know that Otsutsuki can through some means awaken it if they manage to get hold of a pair of Byakugan from a pure Hyuuga.

Sadly, the Hyuuga clan is dying out since they've started to intermingle with other clans. So they're pretty much diluting the clan's purity and eventually it's going to be impossible to awaken it, for Otsutsuki that is. Since Hamura's Byakugan descendants will have been sullied.

Just my opinion though, but I don't agree with Otsutsuki being supposedly certain to awaken the Tenseigan. There might be a secret to it, but it wouldn't make sense if you got all of that power out of just acquiring a set of Byakugan eyes. It's just absurd to think about.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Tenseigan is an evolution and so far only the purest eyes of Hanabi Hime have shown the ability to reach such a state.
Boruto's eye I don't think so if anything it's likely a downgrade.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

For those saying EMS is an equivalent of Tenseigan in terms of acquisition, I'd like to disagree with them.

EMS is not necessarily an upgrade, and it certainly isn't separate from MS. It's still the same eye, just without the drawbacks inherent in MS. So no, EMS is not an equivalent of Tenseigan in that regard. Uchiha don't need to transplant eyes to awaken it. But they do need to transplant eyes to sustain or restore what they already awakened.

Tenseigan is an evolution and so far only the purest eyes of Hanabi Hime have shown the ability to reach such a state.
Boruto's eye I don't think so if anything it's likely a downgrade.

I maintain the same view in regards to the Tenseigan, but what baffles me is the very concept of the Tenseigan. Just its power for simply taking a pair of Byakugan eyes from an inferior clan. Just absurd.

But then Kishimoto scripted that movie. So I don't have a care. But he's going to have to explain for the orbs. Rikudou Senjutsu chakra is required to manifest them, but Toneri didn't seem to possess it.

Just the whole movie goes against every concept the series was built on, and causes unneeded confusion.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Momoshiki and Kinshiki are also Ototsukis who couldn't do shit to Susano'o with Bykaugan based techniques.

It takes someone like Kaguya to accomplish such a feat.

*A Susano'O powered by Kurama from a superior version of Sasuke. Let's also not forget that Rennigan should have allowed Momoshiki to absorb both the Kurama Avatar and Susano'O, but you know how it is with heroes and plot armor.

 

[Made in Heaven]

I maintain the same view in regards to the Tenseigan, but what baffles me is the very concept of the Tenseigan. Just its power for simply taking a pair of Byakugan eyes from an inferior clan. Just absurd.

But then Kishimoto scripted that movie. So I don't have a care. But he's going to have to explain for the orbs. Rikudou Senjutsu chakra is required to manifest them, but Toneri didn't seem to possess it.

Just the whole movie goes against every concept the series was built on, and causes unneeded confusion.

It's not about who they eye came from, it's as simple as Hamura's Ootsutsuki side being able to access Tenseigan with Byakugan, but they lack it since they seal their eyes in the Energy Vessel.

And who's to say Tenseigan doesn't grant Rikudo Chakra the same way Rennigan does? This level of nitpicking is just pathetic.

 

[Uchihauzamakibarrage]

The evolutions of the byakugan are not actual evolutions. Borutos eye is a new type of dojutsu not an evolution. Tenseigan is whatever the **** that is, Rikudou power. What you're implying is that a byakugan user can actually obtain this new eye by fufilling natural requirements like MS/EMS. The problem with Hyuuga faps is that they cant admit inferiority when the sharingan is clearly superior. Get over it.

This is straight facts.