The End All Debate on the SO6P

[snipeshot11385]

Re: Why So6P is NOT an Uzumaki.

I see what ur trying to get at, but I don't see it possible. Uzumaki was born under Senjuu, and they where born under So6p.

So that just wouldint add up...

exactly, what he said, even naruto has a sliver of logic, sasuke isnt minatos father, and rock lee isnt guys son, despite looks and abilities.

 

[Shimsy]

Awesome effort..... i too noticed naruto has some patterns of that sage aftr he turned into BM....

 

[Kakashi9991]

Re: Why So6P is NOT an Uzumaki.

I guess we will see when we see the hair color of the Sage. The possibility still exist. Lets say that you are right and he was not an Uzumaki. Bt what if the uzumakis are what he was? Seal expert and stuff. May not have the name of the Uzumaki, but be an Uzumaki in body and mind?something like that.

 

[MrSimple]

Will never agree until the author write it himself,
which means he might never will,
There's no evidence that his hair was red nor it feats him well(what happened with Nagato's hair can happen with anyone),
He was a monk, Uzumaki aren't nor there's a reason to left them and he probably lived before that clan ever existed so fail big time,
He invent the jutsu and Uzumaki's clan isn't the only clan that develop sealing techs so in that case anyone who knows sealing techs on the sage level can seal Juubi at that time,
Senju and Uchiha started from him, Uzumaki are somehow related to Senju, and Senju clan probably never studied any sealing techs but learned sealing techs from their relation with Uzumaki,
His sons didn't tech the next generation(which are Senju and Uchiha) how to use sealing techs like s06p, why would Uzumaki being more special when they probably existed after the begining of the existence of Senju and Uchiha,
, so no and much more...

 

[mangaanime7000sspt09]

Oh My Gosh!!!! its this shit again but now even worst as an end of all debate, look the sage of six paths, was not an uzumaki!!! when you put the sage as an uzumaki, the line gets sooo messed up, its like what the hell! how the heck aren't uchihas born with rinnegans?! madara wont need to go and take Hashirama 's dna to get rinnegan if he was had uzumaki in him ugh! the tools! the treasured tools!

thats how the SAGE OF SIX PATHS DEFEATED THE JUUBI!!! not rinnegan before juubi? how did he get the rinnegan...? by chance?!!! no. he used his treasured tools, people ignore this and say he is an uzumaki! no it was his tools who sealed the juubi in himself thats how he did it!

 

[mun]

lol where do these people come up with these theories ? so6p is not uzamaki and that's common sense. You're basically saying uchiha is a descendant of the uzamaki's

 

[Otter]

Damn gurl, I felt like I was reading an essay. Very well researched, imo.

 

[narmeiter]

Fully agree with him being an uzumaki. But how can he get the rinnegan from the juubi. For one, madara didn't get the rinnegan this way.

 

[sammypt Miyamoto Musashi]

WOW! O.O This thread has just exploded since I was reading it last! but I think I've figured out the end to all this debate....
The sage tricked the juubi into positioning itself over a volcano. He cooked it, then ate it using the sacred spoon knife and fork, taking it into his body.He is the super "great" to the 10th power grand pappy of Naruto and Sasuke. He may have had red hair or it turned that way after eating such a spicy meat-a-ball-a!

 

[Lochy21]

Dude, spent my 20 mins reading, completely amazing. Extremely logical and supported with valid references. Awesome job. Love it

 

[NarutoDKurosaki]

This is to the OP. Did you ever think that his hair was white, just because how old he was lmao? Although it could of been because of large jutsus he did before his death, we also saw that he was very elderly at the time.

 

[Vegeta]

This is going to be a detailed analysis of the SO6P and why first of all he was an Uzumaki, didn't possess the Rinnegan and couldnt use ninjutsu until after he beat the Juubi. I believe I have provided enough evidence to support these theories and there are virtually no holes. If I thought there were any holes, I would not have made the thread.

Let's begin....

Incredible breakdown. + rep. The only argument I can see is if the So6p had the juubi under his control in that pic. Kinda like how the Kyuubi had the sharingan when Madara controlled him.(Which I'm sure someone probably posted) other than that I can't think of anything to dispute this

 

[BlacLord™]

Not the thread as much as the posts thereafter with Karin.

To your point about the Juubi's eye. You lost me after the first sentence. It's well documented that the SO6P is based on a buddhist monk I get that, but everything I have said could work with that.


If your point is that he a god like figure sent to save the world I have to disagree. His statements to Kurama suggest otherwise. Naruto is that figure.

Naruto is supposedly more of a saviour rather than a Godlike figure; and it's all by his own terms. Whereas history has showed us that God like figures exist to teach and save, Jesus is a great example of that. And Rikudou did the same as Jesus, he traveled the land preaching his ideal and religion and then his final act was take the most potent danger of the world upon himself and seal it upon death.

I did see something you wrote about his Bashosen, something about needing because he's not able to use Ninjutsu? How about this, if he couldn't use Ninjutsu, then how did he obtain the elemental natures for it in a world where Chakra was barely known to most, apart from himself. Also, relating back to his Rinnegan, what do you think would be the easiest way to discover Chakra and it's mysteries? By seeing it. From there, he would probably be able to distinguish different natures and then manipulate it for jutsu and certain tools like the Bashousen.

This is a cool thread but there seems to be so many iffy, uncertain ideas.

 

[Vegeta]

Naruto is supposedly more of a saviour rather than a Godlike figure; and it's all by his own terms. Whereas history has showed us that God like figures exist to teach and save, Jesus is a great example of that. And Rikudou did the same as Jesus, he traveled the land preaching his ideal and religion and then his final act was take the most potent danger of the world upon himself and seal it upon death.

I did see something you wrote about his Bashosen, something about needing because he's not able to use Ninjutsu? How about this, if he couldn't use Ninjutsu, then how did he obtain the elemental natures for it in a world where Chakra was barely known to most, apart from himself. Also, relating back to his Rinnegan, what do you think would be the easiest way to discover Chakra and it's mysteries? By seeing it. From there, he would probably be able to distinguish different natures and then manipulate it for jutsu and certain tools like the Bashousen.

This is a cool thread but there seems to be so many iffy, uncertain ideas.

Wow, so Jesus did the reaper death seal on 'sin' itself and saved us from sins? I don't wanna go into a discussion about this but please keep the religiousness in your church

 

[BlacLord™]

Wow, so Jesus did the reaper death seal on 'sin' itself and saved us from sins? I don't wanna go into a discussion about this but please keep the religiousness in your church

Eh? I'm not even religious. Jesus died on the cross, taking away the sins of the world. And why are you mentioning Shiki Fujin? RS sealed the Juubi inside of himself and then on his deathbed, sealed it in the moon he created using Chibaku Tensei.

 

[thegame]

Eh? I'm not even religious. Jesus died on the cross, taking away the sins of the world. And why are you mentioning Shiki Fujin? RS sealed the Juubi inside of himself and then on his deathbed, sealed it in the moon he created using Chibaku Tensei.

Jesus has absolutely nothing to do with Naruto and SO6P from a Japanese manga. U_U

 

[BlacLord™]

Jesus has absolutely nothing to do with Naruto and SO6P from a Japanese manga. U_U

I'm not even remotely saying that Christianity is part of the manga whatsoever. All religions have shown that some figure linked with a God has come to earth to preach and save. Jesus is merely being used as an example, just as I could use the Avatars from Hindu mythology.

 

[Ropp]

What a crap! Neither Ninja can use Ninjitsu before they are taught in the ninja academy.

Only RockLee and Gai cannot use Ninjitsu after all.

 

[BlacLord™]

What a crap! Neither Ninja can use Ninjitsu before they are taught in the ninja academy.

Only RockLee and Gai cannot use Ninjitsu after all.

Gai can but he chooses not to use it xD

 

[thegame]

Oh yeah, as we discussed this earlier, though you seemed to agree / change your theory about Uzumakis inability to use Ninjutsu, I had better time today, so I took a look in the databook, which now makes it 100 % clear that you are wrong on this part, since Karin according to the 3rd databook has ninjutsu:

Spoiler

NINJUTSU; Hiden; Kagura Shingan (Arcane; Propitiatory Inner Eye*)
User: Karin
Supplementary; Close, Medium, Long ranges; Rank: none

Main text

Possible because of the very existence of Karin's superior perception ability, this enemy-searching jutsu extends over an ultra-large scale. Closing her eyes and opening her inner eye, she perceives any strange chakra activity within a 10 kilometer (tn: that's roughly 6 miles) radius. In addition, should there be a particular chakra setup, she can sense its location and movements with even greater accuracy.

Caption

-Her inner eye lets her know what happens far away, and look over great distances.

Picture comment

-She accurately grasps her targets' numbers, specificities, all the way down to their traveling speed.

Translation by Gottheim.