As the long awaited face of Tobi is going to be revealed, After many days of continuous research I have come up with a whole bunch of reasons on who Tobi could be.
In no particular order
- Kagami Uchiha
- Obito Uchiha/Zetsu
- Madara Uchiha
- Izuna Uchiha
Okay, let's begin.
Case #1, Kagami Uchiha
What do we know about him?
- Kagami was an Uchiha that served with Team Tobirama during the First Shinobi world war, he was an acquaintance of the Third Hokage and Danzo.
Why do people believe he could be Tobi?
- There is very little known about Kagami, he is believed to have died sometime before or during the Uchiha clan massacre.
Evidence
Here, we can see team Tobirama and Torifu Akimichi fighting against the Nine-tails, the only two people missing from that group is Danzo and Kagami, I'm pretty sure everyone knows that Danzo is not Tobi, therefore, since there is no evidence to prove the death of Kagami Uchiha, many believe that he is Tobi.
- Tobirama Senju was a skilled Space/Time jutsu user. The only other two skilled users (apart from summoning) are Minato and Tobi, since Kagami possessed a Sharingan, commonly known as the Copy Wheel Eye. He somehow could have seen Tobirama Senju in action and use his Space/Time jutsu's, in order for Kagami to copy them. It is one of the only vague evidence that could show how Tobi is such a skilled user in Space/Time jutsu's.
- Madara was full with hatred when he was not chosen as Hokage, when we saw Hiruzen Sarutobi appointed to Third Hokage, we only saw the state of shock that Danzo was in. knowing Kishi, he could have tried and outlined Kagami's reaction, to if Tobi was to be Kagami, it would be as part of his explanation to the hatred of Konoha.
- Tobi and Madara both share the same ambition, the Infinite Tsukuyomi . Incredibly little is known about Tobi as well, apart from the fact he is quite old, if Kagami was an apprentice or a relative of Madara, and if them two shared a close bond of some sort, that is how Tobi could have known so much about Madara, about his fight with Hashirama, and how he was to conclude Madaras plan of controlling the shinobi world.
Why people believe Kagami is not Tobi
- His character is too naive, almost like a character who will just show up once in the past and have no importance in the future of the manga.
- The Konoha Elders stated that they were the only ones of their generation left, after the information that Danzo died reached to them. However, this could be countered by the fact that no one knows when or where Kagami died, he could have left the village and taken the persona of Tobi.
To conclude, Kagami Uchiha has quite a lot of evidence to prove that he is Tobi, however, the evidence to prove could also be considered vague since very little is known about him.
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Case #2, Obito Uchiha
What do we know about him?
- Part of Team Minato with Rin and Kakashi.
- Willingly sacrificed himself to save Kakashi, result - right side of his body crushed by a rock.
- Gave his left eye to Kakashi while on his deathbed.
Why do people believe he is Tobi?
Ahh, Obito. One of the oldest theories about who Tobi is. People believe part of him, most likely the right side of his body, are Zetsu parts.
Evidence
Here we can see Tobi cutting of his arm while it is being infected by bugs. However, we do not see blood, rather a white substance that matches the same colour as Zetsu.
Evidence 2
Here, Tobi has re-grown his entire arm again, this time we can see a white liquid flowing down, which marks that Tobi has regenerated his arm.
- Both of these evidences could point to the fact that Obito is covered in Zetsu parts, and uses them to regenerate himself if he has lost a body part during a battle.
- Tobi's space/time absorption jutsu is incredibly similar to Kakashi's Kamui
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Kamui
- If Obito was to have survived from the rocks, him and Kakashi would have the same Sharingan, and since Kakashi's sharingan is Obito's, Obito too would have a jutsu similar or exactly the same as Kamui. But since Obito is an Uchiha, he would have it to a greater level.
Why people believe Obito is not Tobi
There is really no reason why Obito would want to destroy Konoha, and resurrect the Juubi. He has no relation to Madara, apart from the fact they are both Uchiha, and even the letters of Obito could be rearranged to make Tobi (obviously). It seems to be too obvious that the reasons provided that Obito is Tobi, are there just to distracts us and make us believe it. However, I can not see any reason why Obito would want to destroy Konoha, only if he was to be in a genjutsu from Madara, or Madara's soul is in Obito's body. Which seems rather unlikely. However, I do not also see why either if it wasn't Obito, Tobi needs the help of Zetsu body parts. Unless Tobi himself has lost those body parts in an even that we do not know off.
All in all, many people still believe Obito could be Tobi because there are obvious reasons that point to that conclusion, however, other people believe he isn't Tobi because there aren't any proof that suggests why Obito wants Konoha to be destructed, and some evidence are there just to fool with us (Obito=Tobi)
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Case #3, Madara Uchiha
What do we know about him?
- Madara Uchiha was the leader of the Uchiha clan
- He possessed the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and the Rinnegan
- He did not die in the battle with the First Hokage.
Why people believe he is Tobi
There are many great amount of evidence which can suggest why Madara is Tobi.
Evidence:
- Sometime during Nagato's early years, since Madara did not die in the battle with the first hokage, he must have visited or at least known about Nagato or his powers, in order for him to give Nagato the Rinnegan knowing it's powers as well. he believed that Nagato would bring him back with the Jutsu he used to bring back the people of Konoha, Rinne Tensei Which is why he believed that is how he was brought back as soon as he stepped out of his coffin.
- This could also relate to Tobi stating that Nagato's Rinnegan is rightfully his. And he is merely taking back what he intentionally gave Nagato as part of a fulfillment which Nagato did not do. As in bringing back the old Madara so that Tobi and Madara could be reunited.
Evidence 2
- Tobi states that Nagato should have used the Rinne Tensei on him. And since Rinne Tensei brings the soul of the person from the pure world into the body of the impure world. Kishi could have raped our minds by making the readers believe Tobi wants to be connected to Madara again. Hence the famous saying ''Tobi is a shell of his former self''
Evidence 3
The same point made with Kagami, Madara shares the same plan as Tobi. However, he wouldn't trust everyone with secrets like this, which is why people believe he could be Tobi because who else is better to trust, than himself?
Reasons why people believe he is not Tobi
- The Impure world resurrection needs the soul to be in the pure world, if Tobi really is Madara, then he cannot be resurrected as the soul of Madara will be in the impure world (Shinobi world)
- Kabuto makes it sound like Tobi and Madara agreed to a plan, Tobi was to continue the Infinite Tsukuyomi plan even after Madara had died. Which is why he took Madara's persona, ''Even the name itself is power''. But he also makes it sound like Tobi isn't Madara, and is someone with a consciousness of his own and will most likely not follow with the original plan intended between Madara and Tobi.
All in all, Madara is the toughest one to analyze, as soon as he was resurrected, people started loosing hope. However, in the later chapters there are more points which are starting to come clear. But we still cannot forget the rules of each jutsu, and that Madara is still human, but anything is possible
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Case #4, Izuna Uchiha
What do we know about him?
- Madara's brother
- Possessed the Mangekyou Sharingan
- Supposedly gave his MS to Madara after he went blind.
Why people believe he could be Tobi
- One of the closest relatives of Madara, someone who is most likely going to know everything about Madara, and his life. Since Tobi is extremely knowledgeable about the Uchiha, the Senju and the Sage of the Six Path, he must be someone of experience and age, but not everyone knows everything about Madara. And if Tobi himself is not Madara, then people could believe that the closest person possible is Izuna.
- Tobi seems extremely skilled for someone with a normal Sharingan. And it also never seems to de-activate. And since Izuna gave his eyes to Madara. People could think that Madara gave Izuna another pair of Sharingan, which would also relate to how Izuna knows everything about the powers of the Mangekyou Sharingan.
- Izuna has a reason to be full of hatred from Konoha, because it defected the Uchiha clan and he gave his powers away for nothing. Not only that, but when they had come up with a truce, the Senju would rule Konoha while the Uchiha would slowly be segregated away from society and loose all power they had. Which Izuna's brother Madara thought, and when he died. People believe He could have given Izuna his EMS and told him to fulfill the Infinite Tsukuyomi plan. Which is also why Tobi again, stated that the Rinnegan that Nagato possessed was rightfully his in the first place, he only gave it to him so he could bring back his deceased brother, and now that he can't, he wants it back.
Why people believe he is not Tobi
- We have seen proof of his corpse. However, who says Tobi wasn't lying, he could have made up the story.
- When Madara is at shock to find out that he was brought back using Edo Tensei, he assumes it is Tobi, but says it in a way to express anger, rather than thankfulness. Meaning he didn't keep a close relationship to Tobi, and if Tobi was Izuna, this breaks that logic as both Madara and Izuna were extremely close brothers.
For Izuna, there is an extremely little evidence to support the reasons. One must think hugely for these situations to happen, however, it could still happen, which is why people believe this.
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Conclusion
I am still stuck on who is really Tobi, but I have provided myself with facts from both sides on each and every one of the four people. Please feel free to provide even more evidence, and correct me in some places where I am wrong. So I guess there is really nothing more to say but...
What do you think?
In no particular order
- Kagami Uchiha
- Obito Uchiha/Zetsu
- Madara Uchiha
- Izuna Uchiha
Okay, let's begin.
Case #1, Kagami Uchiha
What do we know about him?
- Kagami was an Uchiha that served with Team Tobirama during the First Shinobi world war, he was an acquaintance of the Third Hokage and Danzo.
Why do people believe he could be Tobi?
- There is very little known about Kagami, he is believed to have died sometime before or during the Uchiha clan massacre.
Evidence
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Here, we can see team Tobirama and Torifu Akimichi fighting against the Nine-tails, the only two people missing from that group is Danzo and Kagami, I'm pretty sure everyone knows that Danzo is not Tobi, therefore, since there is no evidence to prove the death of Kagami Uchiha, many believe that he is Tobi.
- Tobirama Senju was a skilled Space/Time jutsu user. The only other two skilled users (apart from summoning) are Minato and Tobi, since Kagami possessed a Sharingan, commonly known as the Copy Wheel Eye. He somehow could have seen Tobirama Senju in action and use his Space/Time jutsu's, in order for Kagami to copy them. It is one of the only vague evidence that could show how Tobi is such a skilled user in Space/Time jutsu's.
- Madara was full with hatred when he was not chosen as Hokage, when we saw Hiruzen Sarutobi appointed to Third Hokage, we only saw the state of shock that Danzo was in. knowing Kishi, he could have tried and outlined Kagami's reaction, to if Tobi was to be Kagami, it would be as part of his explanation to the hatred of Konoha.
- Tobi and Madara both share the same ambition, the Infinite Tsukuyomi . Incredibly little is known about Tobi as well, apart from the fact he is quite old, if Kagami was an apprentice or a relative of Madara, and if them two shared a close bond of some sort, that is how Tobi could have known so much about Madara, about his fight with Hashirama, and how he was to conclude Madaras plan of controlling the shinobi world.
Why people believe Kagami is not Tobi
- His character is too naive, almost like a character who will just show up once in the past and have no importance in the future of the manga.
- The Konoha Elders stated that they were the only ones of their generation left, after the information that Danzo died reached to them. However, this could be countered by the fact that no one knows when or where Kagami died, he could have left the village and taken the persona of Tobi.
To conclude, Kagami Uchiha has quite a lot of evidence to prove that he is Tobi, however, the evidence to prove could also be considered vague since very little is known about him.
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Case #2, Obito Uchiha
What do we know about him?
- Part of Team Minato with Rin and Kakashi.
- Willingly sacrificed himself to save Kakashi, result - right side of his body crushed by a rock.
- Gave his left eye to Kakashi while on his deathbed.
Why do people believe he is Tobi?
Ahh, Obito. One of the oldest theories about who Tobi is. People believe part of him, most likely the right side of his body, are Zetsu parts.
Evidence
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Here we can see Tobi cutting of his arm while it is being infected by bugs. However, we do not see blood, rather a white substance that matches the same colour as Zetsu.
Evidence 2
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Here, Tobi has re-grown his entire arm again, this time we can see a white liquid flowing down, which marks that Tobi has regenerated his arm.
- Both of these evidences could point to the fact that Obito is covered in Zetsu parts, and uses them to regenerate himself if he has lost a body part during a battle.
- Tobi's space/time absorption jutsu is incredibly similar to Kakashi's Kamui
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- If Obito was to have survived from the rocks, him and Kakashi would have the same Sharingan, and since Kakashi's sharingan is Obito's, Obito too would have a jutsu similar or exactly the same as Kamui. But since Obito is an Uchiha, he would have it to a greater level.
Why people believe Obito is not Tobi
There is really no reason why Obito would want to destroy Konoha, and resurrect the Juubi. He has no relation to Madara, apart from the fact they are both Uchiha, and even the letters of Obito could be rearranged to make Tobi (obviously). It seems to be too obvious that the reasons provided that Obito is Tobi, are there just to distracts us and make us believe it. However, I can not see any reason why Obito would want to destroy Konoha, only if he was to be in a genjutsu from Madara, or Madara's soul is in Obito's body. Which seems rather unlikely. However, I do not also see why either if it wasn't Obito, Tobi needs the help of Zetsu body parts. Unless Tobi himself has lost those body parts in an even that we do not know off.
All in all, many people still believe Obito could be Tobi because there are obvious reasons that point to that conclusion, however, other people believe he isn't Tobi because there aren't any proof that suggests why Obito wants Konoha to be destructed, and some evidence are there just to fool with us (Obito=Tobi)
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Case #3, Madara Uchiha
What do we know about him?
- Madara Uchiha was the leader of the Uchiha clan
- He possessed the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and the Rinnegan
- He did not die in the battle with the First Hokage.
Why people believe he is Tobi
There are many great amount of evidence which can suggest why Madara is Tobi.
Evidence:
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- Sometime during Nagato's early years, since Madara did not die in the battle with the first hokage, he must have visited or at least known about Nagato or his powers, in order for him to give Nagato the Rinnegan knowing it's powers as well. he believed that Nagato would bring him back with the Jutsu he used to bring back the people of Konoha, Rinne Tensei Which is why he believed that is how he was brought back as soon as he stepped out of his coffin.
- This could also relate to Tobi stating that Nagato's Rinnegan is rightfully his. And he is merely taking back what he intentionally gave Nagato as part of a fulfillment which Nagato did not do. As in bringing back the old Madara so that Tobi and Madara could be reunited.
Evidence 2
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- Tobi states that Nagato should have used the Rinne Tensei on him. And since Rinne Tensei brings the soul of the person from the pure world into the body of the impure world. Kishi could have raped our minds by making the readers believe Tobi wants to be connected to Madara again. Hence the famous saying ''Tobi is a shell of his former self''
Evidence 3
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The same point made with Kagami, Madara shares the same plan as Tobi. However, he wouldn't trust everyone with secrets like this, which is why people believe he could be Tobi because who else is better to trust, than himself?
Reasons why people believe he is not Tobi
- The Impure world resurrection needs the soul to be in the pure world, if Tobi really is Madara, then he cannot be resurrected as the soul of Madara will be in the impure world (Shinobi world)
- Kabuto makes it sound like Tobi and Madara agreed to a plan, Tobi was to continue the Infinite Tsukuyomi plan even after Madara had died. Which is why he took Madara's persona, ''Even the name itself is power''. But he also makes it sound like Tobi isn't Madara, and is someone with a consciousness of his own and will most likely not follow with the original plan intended between Madara and Tobi.
All in all, Madara is the toughest one to analyze, as soon as he was resurrected, people started loosing hope. However, in the later chapters there are more points which are starting to come clear. But we still cannot forget the rules of each jutsu, and that Madara is still human, but anything is possible
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Case #4, Izuna Uchiha
What do we know about him?
- Madara's brother
- Possessed the Mangekyou Sharingan
- Supposedly gave his MS to Madara after he went blind.
Why people believe he could be Tobi
- One of the closest relatives of Madara, someone who is most likely going to know everything about Madara, and his life. Since Tobi is extremely knowledgeable about the Uchiha, the Senju and the Sage of the Six Path, he must be someone of experience and age, but not everyone knows everything about Madara. And if Tobi himself is not Madara, then people could believe that the closest person possible is Izuna.
- Tobi seems extremely skilled for someone with a normal Sharingan. And it also never seems to de-activate. And since Izuna gave his eyes to Madara. People could think that Madara gave Izuna another pair of Sharingan, which would also relate to how Izuna knows everything about the powers of the Mangekyou Sharingan.
- Izuna has a reason to be full of hatred from Konoha, because it defected the Uchiha clan and he gave his powers away for nothing. Not only that, but when they had come up with a truce, the Senju would rule Konoha while the Uchiha would slowly be segregated away from society and loose all power they had. Which Izuna's brother Madara thought, and when he died. People believe He could have given Izuna his EMS and told him to fulfill the Infinite Tsukuyomi plan. Which is also why Tobi again, stated that the Rinnegan that Nagato possessed was rightfully his in the first place, he only gave it to him so he could bring back his deceased brother, and now that he can't, he wants it back.
Why people believe he is not Tobi
- We have seen proof of his corpse. However, who says Tobi wasn't lying, he could have made up the story.
- When Madara is at shock to find out that he was brought back using Edo Tensei, he assumes it is Tobi, but says it in a way to express anger, rather than thankfulness. Meaning he didn't keep a close relationship to Tobi, and if Tobi was Izuna, this breaks that logic as both Madara and Izuna were extremely close brothers.
For Izuna, there is an extremely little evidence to support the reasons. One must think hugely for these situations to happen, however, it could still happen, which is why people believe this.
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Conclusion
I am still stuck on who is really Tobi, but I have provided myself with facts from both sides on each and every one of the four people. Please feel free to provide even more evidence, and correct me in some places where I am wrong. So I guess there is really nothing more to say but...
What do you think?
