The differences between religious and non-religious brains.

[Hawker]

Lel, correlation doesn't equal causation. I agree with OP but not this.

With what you don't agree? That narcissists are generally better leaders? It's a studied fact lmao. I wasn't talking about causation. No one cares if you don't agree with facts.

"It is not the image we like to have when we think of business leaders. But troubling research indicates that in the ranks of senior management, psychopathic behavior may be more common than we think – more prevalent in fact than the amount such seriously aberrant behavior occurs in the general population."

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"Narcissists tend to be extraverted, and that is leading to the positive relationship between narcissism and leader emergence,” University of Illinois psychology professor and lead author of the study Emily. Grijalva said."

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Tell that to the Father of Optics or Newton. This is why nobody takes you seriously.

Religion had nothing to do with any of the inventions you implied there. Boom.

90% of America's National Academy of Science's are non religious. Get rekt.

Also: Religious people are less intelligent than atheists, according to analysis of scores of scientific studies stretching back over decades. Atheists 'have higher IQs': Their intelligence 'makes them more likely to dismiss religion as irrational and unscientific

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^that destroys your whole argument.

Bolded: lol getting mad I see. You know quite well that alot of people take me seriously so stop the act.


You also don't realise that we are speaking generally here and not about causation. So yes generally speaking a religious person is less intelligent as atheist.

Also taking this from the article

The authors concluded by saying that understanding the interaction between these two ways of thinking could enrich both.

The fact that you claim that atheist and more intelligent and competent then religious folk is a flaw in itself

Yeah could lol.

It's not a flaw. Take a look what I posted above.

 

[Le0]

Alright so I'm a muslim and you're an atheist and that makes you smarter than me by default ? Lmao gtfoh

I'm a Muslim.
It's not about who's smarter and who's not, it's about who is more open minded and who is not, it's about what you accept and what you reject, it's about why you accept something and why you reject something.
Example - if your parents raised you to believe that an apple is not a fruit and you accept it and reject any factual information that an apple is a fruit.
Accept something not because you were raised to accept it, reject something once you've fully understand it and arrived at a conclusion for why you would reject it.

 

[CrimsonReaper]

Why can't just people do what they love without getting attacked for it what happened to freedom of speech i don't see religious people attacking for being an atheist

 

[ComplexCity]

Yeah could lol.

It's not a flaw. Take a look what I posted above.

You know the funny thing about studies? They're often bias and don't include the different factors in them between the subjects in them. Do you know how many people exists in the world? Just because study has been done on a select few doesn't make true, less surely accurate.



I'd like you to find me the sources that indicated that the subjects had the same
1. educational background
2. financial stabilization
3. Same opportunities to sought out different methods to gain knowledge
4. Proof that their body health (yes that does play apart according to science) was in the same, top performance



You really are like the Donald Trump of NB and no, no one takes you seriously on here. The small amount of liberals on here may give you a clap (besides, the one that does is a hypocritical bigot herself) but I see a lot of people always questioning your posts and sources

 

[Hawker]

Why can't just people do what they love without getting attacked for it what happened to freedom of speech i don't see religious people attacking for being an atheist you fuck.

Again you are being irrelevant as always contributing nothing to the actual topic. No one was attacking anyone. It's only healthy to question one's beliefs if they lead to less critical thinking. Your blabbering of freedom of speech, while having nothing to do with the article I posted, applies the other way around too. What I'm doing is freedom of speech. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

[Osmon]

I'm a Muslim.
It's not about who's smarter and who's not, it's about who is more open minded and who is not, it's about what you accept and what you reject, it's about why you accept something and why you reject something.
Example - if your parents raised you to believe that an apple is not a fruit and you accept it and reject any factual information that an apple is a fruit.
Accept something not because you were raised to accept it, reject something once you've fully understand it and arrived at a conclusion for why you would reject it.

I get what you're saying but I'm not close-minded. If facts that a thing happened and it's true while my religion denies it then I will believe who is right not the other one.

 

[Made in Heaven]

So if someone decides to leave a religion, they'll instantly gain more IQ points?

 

[CrimsonReaper]

It is in a way, but I don't see it as bad as if you surpress your analytical thinking. It's also a studied fact that narcissists who lack empathy are the best leaders.

you mean like you? :lol

 

[ComplexCity]

you mean like you? :lol

In order to be a leader, people have to follow you, I think the opposite is happening here

 

[Troyg39]

I'm a Muslim.
It's not about who's smarter and who's not, it's about who is more open minded and who is not, it's about what you accept and what you reject, it's about why you accept something and why you reject something.
Example - if your parents raised you to believe that an apple is not a fruit and you accept it and reject any factual information that an apple is a fruit.
Accept something not because you were raised to accept it, reject something once you've fully understand it and arrived at a conclusion for why you would reject it.

What understanding lead you arrive at your conclusion to be a Muslim? Not asking out of disrespect. I agree with your post so I want to see where this train of thought is going

 

[CrimsonReaper]

So if someone decides to leave a religion, they'll instantly gain more IQ points?

apparently yes. :lol

 

[Marin]

What you know bout dat Ishtar swag?

Marik solos :Sparks:

OT: First sentence. Right at the first sentence OP shows his ignorance.

But oh well, not even a shocker anymore considering how everyone's already aware of it.

 

[Hawker]

You know the funny thing about studies? They're often bias and don't include the different factors in them between the subjects in them. Do you know how many people exists in the world? Just because study has been done on a select few doesn't make true, less surely accurate.

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A new review of 63 scientific studies stretching back over decades has concluded that religious people are less intelligent than non-believers.

A piece of University of Rochester analysis, led by Professor Miron Zuckerman, found “a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity” in 53 out of 63 studies.

You don't understand how studies are made. Also that's a meta-analysis btw which is far more reliable than one study. There's 53 studies there had the same conclusion. It's not my problem if you declare them bias just because they go against what you believe. That is also called cognitive dissonance.

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I'd like you to find me the sources that indicated that the subjects had the same
1. educational background
2. financial stabilization
3. Same opportunities to sought out different methods to gain knowledge
4. Proof that their body health (yes that does play apart according to science) was in the same, top performance

Read the link I posted. "According to the review, other factors - such as gender or education - did not make any difference to the correlation between intelligence and religious belief."

You really are like the Donald Trump of NB and no, no one takes you seriously on here. The small amount of liberals on here may give you a clap (besides, the one that does is a hypocritical bigot herself) but I see a lot of people always questioning your posts and sources

According to my recent poll:

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35% of the members of Narutobase are theists. So I would expect 1/3 of the people here not agreeing with me. Add to that I don't care if you don't agree with me. Your use of ad hominems shows your level of intelligence.

 

[Punk Hazard]

sorry, i don't spend my entire day searching for articles to arouse myself. :lol

You got me for that

 

[CrimsonReaper]

You got me for that

damn right!

 

[ComplexCity]

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A new review of 63 scientific studies stretching back over decades has concluded that religious people are less intelligent than non-believers.

A piece of University of Rochester analysis, led by Professor Miron Zuckerman, found “a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity” in 53 out of 63 studies.

You don't understand how studies are made. Also that's a meta-analysis btw which is far more reliable than one study. There's 53 studies there had the same conclusion. It's not my problem if you declare them bias just because they go against what you believe. That is also called cognitive dissonance.

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What's up with people always twisting my words? I said often bias, I didn't all are bias. In no way can the study account for the people that don't had the same opportunities seeing on how intelligence has not been able to measured accurately. My belief has nothing to do with anything

"The three psychologists carrying out the review defined intelligence as the “ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly, and learn from experience”.


"Religiosity is defined by the psychologists as involvement in some (or all) facets of religion."


The fact that these scientist defined intelligence in their own terms whilst looking over and using the data from this study shows how dumb it is. You can't even equate that to the general public if people do not have the same opportunity to gain the knowledge, essentials nutrients (which according to scientist can play a big role on problem solving). If you can find me a study that shows the subjects having all the same factors, then I'll be inclined to take you more seriously

Read the link I posted. "According to the review, other factors - such as gender or education - did not make any difference to the correlation between intelligence and religious belief."

How does this make on bit of sense when we have scientist that have some religious involvement yet still have the ability to be scientist, students that have degrees and etc? Education doesn't make a difference? You got to be kidding me

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Studies on a select few does not account for the majority. Once again, do you know how many people exist in the world?

According to my recent poll:

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35% of the members of Narutobase are theists. So I would expect 1/3 of the people here not agreeing with me. Add to that I don't care if you don't agree with me. Your use of ad hominems shows your level of intelligence.

I see Agostics and Atheist look at you and laugh, so this point is irrelevant here. I'm not taking into account for the thesit members on here. You just say alot of stupid stuff my man

 

[ComplexCity]

We talked about Marik. .-. Im talking about anime Ra.

Ra belongs to Malik :3

 

[Yubel]

People make decisions with emotions, not logic, so religious people are more decisive.
In other words they make for better leaders, life often requires quick decisions.

It also saves time, your most valuable asset.

 

[LordRaikage]

why are atheists and atheists wannabe such losers and so sore.?

 

[Hawker]

People make decisions with emotions, not logic, so religious people are more decisive.
In other words they make for better leaders, life often requires quick decisions.

It also saves time, your most valuable asset.

Are you trolling? Because people sure as hell don't make decision based on just emotions atleast they shouldn't. Emotional based decision making saves time? If you always take the easiest and the most pleasent way in life and not the most beneficial and pragmatical way, you won't get progress or succeed in anything. Emotional leaders are the worst kind of leaders.


And several studies conclude that narcists and psychopaths are good leaders and while the study in the op concluded that atheists are more nearer to a narcists than a full on emotional person then that means that atheists are better leaders. Here are some studies.


"It is not the image we like to have when we think of business leaders. But troubling research indicates that in the ranks of senior management, psychopathic behavior may be more common than we think – more prevalent in fact than the amount such seriously aberrant behavior occurs in the general population."

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"Narcissists tend to be extraverted, and that is leading to the positive relationship between narcissism and leader emergence,” University of Illinois psychology professor and lead author of the study Emily. Grijalva said."

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Four professors at IMD business school, Penn State, and Erlangen-Nuremberg University have collaborated on a study that finds that chief executives who are serious narcissists perform better than more normal top bosses.

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