The differences between religious and non-religious brains.

[Hawker]

It has been a well known fact since the time of ancient Greeks that religion and science contradict each other. Now according to a new study from Case Western Reserve University and Babson College there is a reason why they contradict each other, it's because religion affects one's brain in a way which probably didn't come as a surprise to most of you:

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Here's What Belief In A Religion Does To Your Brain:

Their research found that those with religious or spiritual beliefs appeared to suppress the brain network used for analytical thinking in order to engage the network for empathetic thinking. Equally, those who were non-religious showed they suppressed their empathetic thinking for analytical thinking.

"...from what we understand about the brain, the leap of faith to belief in the supernatural amounts to pushing aside the critical/analytical way of thinking to help us achieve greater social and emotional insight"

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The researchers came to this conclusion through eight separate questionnaire-studies and thought experiments. Each contained between 159 to 527 adults and compared the results of those who held beliefs in a god or universal spirit and those with no religious beliefs

Basically this article tells us that if you take emotions and indoctrination out of the picture, there wouldn't be any religions in the world

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[Yubel]

Isn't it just as worrying to supress your empathetic thinking for analytical? The ideal scenario would be to have both working in unison.
I believe there is a God but I'm not very religious, I prefer science yet I'm also one who likes to have a working imagination and not be stuck to one way of thinking.

 

[Hawker]

Isn't it just as worrying to supress your empathetic thinking for analytical? The ideal scenario would be to have both working in unison..

It is in a way, but I don't see it as bad as if you surpress your analytical thinking. It's also a studied fact that narcissists who lack empathy are the best leaders.

 

[UchiGod Itachi]

I'd like to ask a question if being religious holds your mind back, how was bill gates able to become the wealthiest man on the planet if catholic background held back his empathetic thinking?

 

[Osmon]

A brain is still a brain z.z

Your threads are really annoying.

 

[Hawker]

I'd like to ask a question if being religious holds your mind back, how was bill gates able to become the wealthiest man on the planet if catholic background held back his empathetic thinking?

This study only gives us general indications of what being a religious and non religious usually means.

Ofcourse scientists and entrepreneuers can be religious, but that's because of indoctrination. So there's a clear psychological reason why a man like Bill Gates keeps on being part of a religion. Indoctrination is as bad as physical violence or molestation

 

[Yubel]

It is in a way, but I don't see it as bad as if you surpress your analytical thinking. It's also a studied fact that narcissists who lack empathy are the best leaders.

I'd rather have an empathetic person with less analytical skills than vice versa which is more dangerous imo.

 

[Hawker]

I'd rather have an empathetic person with less analytical skills than vice versa which is more dangerous imo.

Well okay then, that's your choice then, but imo it depends on the situation. If it's a life or death situation then the one with better analytical skills always survives.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I'd like to ask a question if being religious holds your mind back, how was bill gates able to become the wealthiest man on the planet if catholic background held back his empathetic thinking?

Empathy has nothing to do with creating software. Also, read the thread properly. A catholic background would enhance his empathetic thinking.

Also, a study is not universal. Correlation does not equal causation. This study simply points out a pattern between religion and brain patterns, not a law.

 

[Yubel]

Empathy has nothing to do with creating software. Also, read the thread properly. A catholic background would enhance his empathetic thinking.

Also, a study is not universal. Correlation does not equal causation. This study simply points out a pattern between religion and brain patterns, not a law.

Clearly you never ran a business. Perhaps not empathy but emotion is the only driver through the process of being an entrepreneur.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Clearly you never ran a business. Perhaps not empathy but emotion is the only driver through the process of being an entrepreneur.

LMFAO right, intelligence, being able to deduce statistics, and knowing how to develop software didn't mean shit. Gates created Microsoft through the sole usage of feelings.

 

[UchiGod Itachi]

LMFAO right, intelligence, being able to deduce statistics, and knowing how to develop software didn't mean shit. Gates created Microsoft through the sole usage of feelings.

So what gave him motivation to keeping going ?

 

[Punk Hazard]

So what gave him motivation to keeping going ?

Read Yubel's post very carefully and do the same for mine, please.

 

[Yubel]

LMFAO right, intelligence, being able to deduce statistics, and knowing how to develop software didn't mean shit. Gates created Microsoft through the sole usage of feelings.

Excellent strawman. All those things wouldn't matter if he didn't have the motivation and persistence to follow through. You make it sound like A B C when it's rarely that simple.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Excellent strawman. All those things wouldn't matter if he didn't have the motivation and persistence to follow through. You make it sound like A B C when it's rarely that simple.

It'd behoove you to read what you said again.

Clearly you never ran a business. Perhaps not empathy but emotion is the only driver through the process of being an entrepreneur.

emotion is the only driver through the process of being an entrepreneur.

 

[Mari Makinami]

Interesting

Spoiler

not really

 

[Troyg39]

Spoiler

However, the researchers say that neither of these ways of thought has the monopoly on answers to the world’s great questions; our very nature has allowed us to engage and explore our experiences using both patterns of thinking.

Jack added, "Religion has no place telling us about the physical structure of the world; that's the business of science. Science should inform our ethical reasoning, but it cannot determine what is ethical or tell us how we should construct meaning and purpose in our lives."

Furthermore, they argue science and religion don’t always have to be seen as opposing forces. As the study points out, many of the world’s greatest scientist have held spiritual beliefs, including 90 percent of the 21st century’s Nobel laureates.

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"Far from always conflicting with science, under the right circumstances religious belief may positively promote scientific creativity and insight,” Jack concluded.

^^Just wanted to drop that in. Hawker's thread doesn't represent the actual opinion of the people who did the study. Not saying there's anything wrong with Hawker's opinion of course. Just helping you guys get a full picture. The actual source puts the researcher's beliefs into perspective quite well

 

[Yubel]

It'd behoove you to read what you said again.

driver (ˈdraɪvə)
n
1. a person who drives a vehicle
2. in the driver's seat in a position of control
3. a person who drives animals
4. (General Engineering) a mechanical component that exerts a force on another to produce motion
5. (Golf) golf a club, a No. 1 wood, with a large head and deep face for tee shots
6. (Electronics) electronics a circuit whose output provides the input of another circuit
7. (Computer Science) computing a computer program that controls a device
8. something that creates and fuels activity, or gives force or impetus

I don't know whether you should improve your reading comprehension or your grammar.
Yes, emotion is the only driver, get rekt.

 

[Punk Hazard]

driver (ˈdraɪvə)
n
1. a person who drives a vehicle
2. in the driver's seat in a position of control
3. a person who drives animals
4. (General Engineering) a mechanical component that exerts a force on another to produce motion
5. (Golf) golf a club, a No. 1 wood, with a large head and deep face for tee shots
6. (Electronics) electronics a circuit whose output provides the input of another circuit
7. (Computer Science) computing a computer program that controls a device
8. something that creates and fuels activity, or gives force or impetus

I don't know whether you should improve your reading comprehension of your grammar.

You said emotions were the ONLY driver. Do you know what the word "only" means?

 

[Yubel]

You said emotions were the ONLY driver. Do you know what the word "only" means?

Yes it is the only driver, all the knowledge in the world is useless if you don't take action and emotion drives action.