[Theory] The Demon: Part 2
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I was wondering if anyone else thought this theory yet, or made it. Just going to recap because I don't want to get my thoughts out of place, so it looks messy.
> Indra's Dojutsu was symbolized as a swirl, most likely his MS. Indra was capable of using PS with his MS (obviously he can't achieve EMS), but it's highly possible that he doesn't need it considering that he's the son of Hagoromo. Meaning he has eternal light.
> The Uchiha after him who try to replicate the same power (MS), were stated to have their eyes 'SEALED' away when they use the eye itself.
So to end this assessment, I thought it was weird that the Uzumaki Clan which deals with Seals, bears the same swirl symbol lndra does on his physical eye. And the Uchiha Clan themselves seem to have a never-ending 'seal' which takes away their light.
/What if Indra placed a seal on the Uchiha after him hence the swirl/ --- Evil laugh.
It's so weird.
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Here's what I think of the matter :-
We know that Indra was born with the Sharingan.
We also know that Indra awakened MS next. His PS is proof of this as we know that MS is a requirement for awakening Susannoo.
I think Indra lost the light in his MS. A small detail that some people might have forgotten is that Ashura's powers from Hagoromo's awakened later in his life. Could it be that Indra inherited the opposite trait, he had Hagoromo's power from the start but it fades away upon use.
Regardless, Indra losing his light in MS has greater plot potential than not losing the light in his MS. Two reasons are :-
1- Indra's power might have watered down but it didn't divide (Hagoromo's, Kaguya cases) as we know all Uchihas had Indra's inheritance the Sharingan in it's pure form. So if India's MS cannot lose it's light then why do his descendants lose the light in thier MS ?
One answer to this could be that Uzumaki Seals (Hint : Spirals) lock away the MS power. This would end up making the plot convoluted but it is a strong possibility. Again this method doesn't have much plot potential.
So why do the Uchihas have the Sharingan chakra sealed ? A answer to this will be given by me in the Spiral Theory.
2 - The second reason is that it allows Black Zetsu to tempt Indra with power. If Indra lost his MS, he would become weak and lose Hagoromo's inheritance. Second, Ashura would become stronger than Indra and this will fuel Indra's Hate and Envy.
With the light gone from Indra's eyes, he had no eye donors as Ashura did not have the Sharingan. So, I think it was Black Zetsu who gave him the Spiral Eyes to restore the light and caused him to succumb to Black Zetsu's temptation.
P.S : I can see the anime giving Indra a unique MS before showing the Spiral Eyes.
So where did the Spiral Eyes of Indra come from ? I have three theories to answer this :-
Theory 1 : Rinnegan Theory :-
With the light from his MS gone, Indra had only one potential eye donor who had a far superior doujutsu, his father Hagoromo's.
"Why take my brother's weak eyes when my father has godly eyes" Indra might have thought.
Indra could have plotted with Black Zetsu to kill his father and take the Rinnegan ? Or perhaps Indra took the Rinnegan after his father's death. Either way, by taking his father's eyes; Indra would have obtained those Spiral Eyes. This might have also caused Ashura to attack Indra for his sin of taking thier father's eyes.
So why are the eyes not circular but Spiral ? This could be explained by the Indra + Hagoromo chakra combo causing a Spiral Rinnegan. Sasuke also has the same chakra combo and he has a Tomoe Rinnegan. The Yin being dominant over Yang might cause the Rinnegan (Yin Yang in balance) to mutate.
Theory 2 : The Triple Spiral Theory :-
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The Demonic Triple Spiral chakra was perhaps put in a sealed form in all of Indra's descendants. Orochimaru, Indra and Black Zetsu are all suspects in this. When the seal breaks, a watered down version of the Triple Spiralis, the Sharingan is formed. This keeps on evolving.
1 Tomoe > 2 Tomoe > 3 Tomoe > 6 Tomoe > 9 Tomoe till 10 Tomoes (Juubi) when the Spiral completes itself.
What supports this is that the three Tomoe Sharingan looks exactly like a powered down Rinnesharingan. It has the tomoes and the circles. Both are Spirals. The Tomoe is actually a Spiral and the circle is a rounded off/enclosed Spiral.
Theory 3 : Combination Theory :-
This Theory combines material from both theories.
It goes as follows :-
When the Triple Spirals become one, The Shinju's Fruit is born.
The Triple Spirals are :-
Yang Spiral (Sun Spiral)
Yin Spiral (Moon Spiral)
Chakra or Natural Energy Spiral ? This I am not sure what it could be ? (Star Spiral)
Two Spirals Yin and Yang went to Hagoromo which in turn went to Indra (Think Theory One all over again).
The Star Spiral went to Hamura.
The antipode to the Three Spirals is the Chiba Mon Symbol.
The Star Seal seals the Shizen/Chakra Spiral.
The Sun Seal seals the Yang Spiral.
The Moon Seal seals the Yin Spiral.
This theory syncs with the Chiba Mon symbolism.
Out of all the Theories by support goes to the second Triple Spiral Theory. It will be interesting to see which pathway Kishi will take. What we do know is that the Chiba Mon is a Triple Symbol. Which means there must be three evil Spirals out there.
Fun Fact : Even the Chiba Moon could be seen as a Triple Spiral. The Sun and Star symbols are Circles which as I said previously are enclosed spirals. The Crescent Moon has a Tomoe design. Makes sense why Kishi would make it the antipode seals.
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I think you are right.
Shinju and Kaguya were sent to Earth by someone or some organisation, to harvest the life, the spirits and the nature energy of the planet.
Like Momoshiki and Kinshiki who already harvested one planet before looking after Kaguya who didn't accomplish her mission to bring back a fruit to the Ootsutsuki master(s).
Momo and Kin could have been informed by their master(s) to go look after the Earth fruit.
Guys who have tomoes in their eyes all becomes obsessed by power, from Kaguya to Sasuke.
I like the idea that the cursed tomoes were implanted by "Shao Kahn Ootsutsuki" in the Shinju to protect it against guys who eat its fruit, a curse of hatred will drive them crazy to the point that their only goal becomes collecting as much chakra as possible, like an obsession, and that's exactly what Shao Kahn wants them to do, collect chakra.
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As I had expected, Indra's MS was revealed to be similar to Sasuke's MS in the Anime and not the Spiral Eyes shown in the Manga.
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This at least gives more support to my idea that the Spiral Eyes were not his standard MS but was an later upgrade. The MS design would not change into a Spiral unless Indra underwent a transplant and got the Triple Spiral Eyes or Hagoromo's Rinnegan. Blindness by using MS would be a good reason for Indra to transplant new eyes. It seems the plotline fits soundly :-
Indra is born with Sharingan < Awakens MS < Goes blind by overusing MS < The jealously of being weaker than Ashura and losing his power < Sets the stage for Black Zetsu to tempt and corrupt Indra < Black Zetsu gives two of the Triple Spirals and Indra transplants them < Indra Awakens the Spiral Eyes.
The Anime also solidified the relation between Indra and Sasuke. Sasuke's has Indra's MS as his right eye and Indra's Spiral as his left eye. It's not a coincidence considering Sasuke's is Indra's transmigrant.
The puzzle pieces fit perfectly. :sdo:
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This at least gives more support to my idea that the Spiral Eyes were not his standard MS but was an later upgrade. The MS design would not change into a Spiral unless Indra underwent a transplant and got the Triple Spiral Eyes or Hagoromo's Rinnegan. Blindness by using MS would be a good reason for Indra to transplant new eyes. It seems the plotline fits soundly :-
Indra is born with Sharingan < Awakens MS < Goes blind by overusing MS < The jealously of being weaker than Ashura and losing his power < Sets the stage for Black Zetsu to tempt and corrupt Indra < Black Zetsu gives two of the Triple Spirals and Indra transplants them < Indra Awakens the Spiral Eyes.
The Anime also solidified the relation between Indra and Sasuke. Sasuke's has Indra's MS as his right eye and Indra's Spiral as his left eye. It's not a coincidence considering Sasuke's is Indra's transmigrant.
The puzzle pieces fit perfectly. :sdo:
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Found it very interesting. It's a good cover. It reminds me of the Aizen ones from bleach but bleach takes from similar source material. The black markings remind me of the obito god tree torture scene mixed with oro's curse seal.
I've been waiting for the manga to catch up with the movie. I'm hoping that they are buying time for kishi to prepare new material. I've also been waiting to see whether boruto has dimension warping techniques. I thought it was suggested in the movie that his rasengan could bypass any defence by skipping dimensions like obito and sasuke but that's just a theory it was left unconfirmed in the film (here's hoping kishi comes back to explain).
I've been waiting for the manga to catch up with the movie. I'm hoping that they are buying time for kishi to prepare new material. I've also been waiting to see whether boruto has dimension warping techniques. I thought it was suggested in the movie that his rasengan could bypass any defence by skipping dimensions like obito and sasuke but that's just a theory it was left unconfirmed in the film (here's hoping kishi comes back to explain).
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Sorry to take such a long time to respond. I don't know if there is any significance to the golden eyes other than they look cool. My only ideas on the subject are that they might signify the moral corruption of his techniques. Momoshiki uses something called the Cinnabar technique to reduce people and techniques to a reddish Chakra which he consumes. This might be a reference to what happens when people consume Cinnabar. I talk about it a bit in an earlier post (the First Emperor). The First Emperor ate Cinnabar (a reddish impure form of Mercury / Quicksilver) to try and coat his organs with liquid metal and thereby become immortal. The reality of eating toxic metals is probably more likely to result in organ failure. I can imagine that your liver would be the first to go while liver failure would lead to jaundice … a yellowing of the eye. Yellow eyes tend to be associated with alcoholics and therefore can have a stigma associated with them in various cultures. I think I might have written about Cinnabar before it turned up in the movie (must check the dates).
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Anyway… a new chapter and finally some progress on the story of Boruto. There was a lot of interesting material in this chapter. I hope Kishi has had enough time off and has found time to develop new material or at least that whoever has taken over the manga has finished with the filler and can finally move the story forward. I’m sick of seeing chapters regurgitate things we’ve already seen in the movie.
Moving back to the theory …
Clap your hands say yeah
Not one but two big reveals this week. A lot of this builds on earlier theories. I've tried to condense it down a bit. Hopefully I don't repeat myself too much and beware not all of my thinking is easy to follow but I'll try and explain myself as well as I can. As usual this is just a theory but beware of spoilers in case any of it turns out to be true.... enjoy
Bolt from the…
Diamonds are Forever
Bolt from the…
For lo! the Sire of heaven on high,
By whose fierce bolts the clouds are riven,
To-day through an unclouded sky
Horace's Ode 34 (circa 23 BC)
The expression “a bolt from the blue” is a very old one. It has a couple of different ideas mixed together. First, it refers to something unexpected. Lighting shouldn’t be in the sky if there aren’t any clouds around to generate it. A bolt (lightning) therefore is unexpected if there is a blue (clear) sky. It can also be taken to refer, as it does so above, to an Act of God. Lightning was the weapon of choice of a lot of the old gods. Zeus was said to be able to hurl lightning. The expression above was written when people believed in Zeus and at a time when people probably thought that lightning was a sign the gods were angry or engaged in battle. Similar beliefs were commonplace all over the world. Thor’s hammer symbolises lightning because the sound of a hammer hitting an anvil is similar to thunder. In Hinduism, I imagine that Indra’s blade the Vajra (shaped like lightning) represents the same. Lightning is often chosen to represent the power of the gods across cultures.
Kishi likes to pepper his manga with a lot of oblique references to the ancient gods. You will recall that Indra is also the name of the elder son of the Sage of Six Paths… Hagoromo:
Indra
A slightly more obscure reference to Indra can also be seen in the crest of the Senju Clan.
Senju Crest
This is a representation of the weapon of Indra - called Vajra which had the ability to throw lightning. One of the translations of Vajra is actually lightning.
Vajra
Angry Gods … Inspiration?
You’ll excuse me for rambling on… What has any of this got to do with Boruto? Well Boruto’s name literally means Bolt (he even carries one around his neck). Kishi likes to overlap any kind of play on words and I think this might be yet another. Boruto is also the grandson of the Yellow Flash and I think the games for the series were called Ninja Storm. Part of me thinks that Kishi has been laying clues for us to expect a Bolt of lightning.
I think it might also be significant that Kishi associates Boruto with Blue. I picked up on this before in an earlier theory but I think there is a good chance that Boruto’s blue eyes are a clue that we might all have been wrong about who the Child of Prophecy was. You will recall that one of the few details about the Child of Prophecy who would save the Ninja world was that he’d be a boy with blue eyes who’d play with the tailed beasts. This was a prophecy set down by Gamamaru (the Toad Sage) who told it to Hagoromo (the Sage of Six Paths) and was passed down to the followers of Ninshuu.
The Prophecy
I have argued before that it might be significant that Boruto has not just blue eyes but eyes that are bluer than his father.
Sarada
In this latest chapter it seems to have been revealed what is so important about these Blue Eyes. Boruto does not just have Blue Eyes he has Blue Byakugan.
Momoshiki knows
This chapter might have also given us a hint about the kid who will face off against Boruto on Hokage Rushmore. We still know very little about this kid but there are a couple of ways his story might tie into that of the remaining mysteries of Konoha.
By whose fierce bolts the clouds are riven,
To-day through an unclouded sky
Horace's Ode 34 (circa 23 BC)
The expression “a bolt from the blue” is a very old one. It has a couple of different ideas mixed together. First, it refers to something unexpected. Lighting shouldn’t be in the sky if there aren’t any clouds around to generate it. A bolt (lightning) therefore is unexpected if there is a blue (clear) sky. It can also be taken to refer, as it does so above, to an Act of God. Lightning was the weapon of choice of a lot of the old gods. Zeus was said to be able to hurl lightning. The expression above was written when people believed in Zeus and at a time when people probably thought that lightning was a sign the gods were angry or engaged in battle. Similar beliefs were commonplace all over the world. Thor’s hammer symbolises lightning because the sound of a hammer hitting an anvil is similar to thunder. In Hinduism, I imagine that Indra’s blade the Vajra (shaped like lightning) represents the same. Lightning is often chosen to represent the power of the gods across cultures.
Kishi likes to pepper his manga with a lot of oblique references to the ancient gods. You will recall that Indra is also the name of the elder son of the Sage of Six Paths… Hagoromo:
Indra
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A slightly more obscure reference to Indra can also be seen in the crest of the Senju Clan.
Senju Crest
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This is a representation of the weapon of Indra - called Vajra which had the ability to throw lightning. One of the translations of Vajra is actually lightning.
Vajra
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You’ll excuse me for rambling on… What has any of this got to do with Boruto? Well Boruto’s name literally means Bolt (he even carries one around his neck). Kishi likes to overlap any kind of play on words and I think this might be yet another. Boruto is also the grandson of the Yellow Flash and I think the games for the series were called Ninja Storm. Part of me thinks that Kishi has been laying clues for us to expect a Bolt of lightning.
I think it might also be significant that Kishi associates Boruto with Blue. I picked up on this before in an earlier theory but I think there is a good chance that Boruto’s blue eyes are a clue that we might all have been wrong about who the Child of Prophecy was. You will recall that one of the few details about the Child of Prophecy who would save the Ninja world was that he’d be a boy with blue eyes who’d play with the tailed beasts. This was a prophecy set down by Gamamaru (the Toad Sage) who told it to Hagoromo (the Sage of Six Paths) and was passed down to the followers of Ninshuu.
The Prophecy
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I have argued before that it might be significant that Boruto has not just blue eyes but eyes that are bluer than his father.
Sarada
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In this latest chapter it seems to have been revealed what is so important about these Blue Eyes. Boruto does not just have Blue Eyes he has Blue Byakugan.
Momoshiki knows
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This chapter might have also given us a hint about the kid who will face off against Boruto on Hokage Rushmore. We still know very little about this kid but there are a couple of ways his story might tie into that of the remaining mysteries of Konoha.
[video=youtube;qPeSPB68i2c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPeSPB68i2c[/video]
The second biggest reveal of this chapter was that Boruto has been given a new form of the Hyakugou - the diamond first seen on Tsunade’s forehead.
Boruto
Tsunade
The Hyakugou has never been fully explored as a technique in the same way that the Mangekyou has. You might think that the Hyakugou is nowhere near as powerful as the mangekyou but I think there is reason to believe that it might be.
If you’ve read any of my theories before then you will appreciate that I tend to think Kishi gives us lots of hidden clues before he actually reveals major plot points. One of his favourite places to hide little details is in the statues that litter Konoha and the ninja world. Two of my favourite statues are the ones outside the main hall in Konoha. The Statue on the left seemed to represent the Uchiha while the statue on the right always seemed to represent the Senju. The Statues were placed outside the main hall where the peace treaty between the Uchiha and Senju was concluded (although it looks like they replaced the roof) and the two statues seemed to correspond to the two clans.
Two Statues
Senju Uchiha Peace treaty
The Statue on the right caught my interest years ago because it appeared to be the influence for Itachi’s tale of the origins of the Mangekyou Sharingan. The double set of eyes as well as the features of the statue appeared to correspond with the Genjutsu vision Itachi forced on Sasuke during their duel in which he was actually preparing and educating his brother for greater challenges to come.
Statue on the Left
Itachi Genjutsu
The Second Statue meanwhile appeared to show a Buddha with what looks like the Hyakugou:
Buddha Hyakugou?
To me it has always appeared as though these two statues represent equal and opposite forces much as Naruto and Sasuke, Kakashi and Obito, Ninshuu and Ninjutsu,…. Need I go on. If the Statue on the Left represented the Mangekou fully realised then perhaps the statue on the right represents the Hyakugou. I don’t know about you but I’ve never really rated the Hyakugou as being on a par with the Mangekyou but perhaps we haven’t seen the potential of the Hyakugou fully realised yet.
Which leads me to wonder whether this new run of Boruto chapters will finally get round to exploring one of the great mysteries of the Narutoverse that has been left unresolved… whatever happened to the Uzumaki Clan?
Mystery
I’m probably jumping ahead of myself here but what the hell, I’ll try and fill in the gaps. The most interesting thing about the Hyakugou is where it came from. The earliest character in the Narutoverse timeline to actually be shown with the Hyakugou is not Tsunade but her mother Mito.
Mito Hyakugou
Mito belonged to the Uzumaki Clan. She was married to Hashirama as part of an arranged marriage. Given that Tsunade is often referred to as a Princess and Hashirama has never been referred to as royalty it would appear that Mito was the one with blue blood. Her garb appears to be much more regal than the Senju or any of the clans of Konoha except perhaps the Hyuuga. It would appear to me that the Uzumaki clan chose to solidify their alliance with the Senju by marrying one of their highborn girls to the leader of the then newly formed powerhouse hidden village of Konoha. Konoha had in it’s possession the Nine Tailed Fox and Uzushiogakure had in its possession one of the few people able to contain the fox… Mito (everyone’s a winner). Years later when Mito was growing too old and weak to contain Kurama they needed to send another princess to take over fox sitting duties … Naruto’s mother Kushina.
Kushina Jinchuuriki
Why would the Uzumaki need to send a replacement for Mito when Konoha had two heirs to Mito? Perhaps Tsunade hadn’t inherited enough of her Uzumaki heritage to contain the fox. Perhaps her mother realised that Tsunade would not be able to contain the fox after her lover mysteriously died (the Uzumaki used love to counterbalance the hate of Kurama before Naruto won him over). We haven’t been shown whether Tsunade was ever looked at as a potential Jinchuuriki but I imagine they would have tried much as the Village of Sand kept on forcing the One Tail into the heirs of Kazekage.
This got me thinking. We saw in this last chapter that Boruto has acquired the Hyakugou on his palm. We have not seen the Hyakugou placed anywhere but the forehead but then again we haven’t seen the Hyakugou on a male either. We know that the Hyakugou is some sort reservoir of chakra and that when it is released, patterns form from the marking and spread around the body.
Hyakugou Release Tsunade
Hyakugou Release Sakura
What if the markings that we know Boruto emanates during his fight with Kawaki are in fact the release of his Hyakugou. What’s more… what if his opponent is also a user of the Hyakugou. We have met powerful members of most of the clans of the ninja world but we have never gotten to see a fully developed Uzumaki using the secret Uzumaki techniques before with the possible exception of Tsunade. What if Kawaki has the same markings as Boruto because like Boruto he is also an Uzumaki?
Boruto Hyakugou
Boruto Hyakugou Release?
Kawaki Hyakugou Release?
I have always wondered whether the disappearance of the Uzushiogakure (the Hidden Eddy Village) would be addressed. I have suspected that Orochimaru might have been behind it. Who better to defeat / seal away Naruto than a member of the clan famous for being able to seal the tailed beasts. It might also explain where this kid has come from since we have met pretty much every other powerful clan in the Narutoverse except the Uzumaki. I don’t know whether there is some kind of a clue in the name as well. You may have noticed that clans tend to share variations on the same name …. Shikamaru / Shikadai / Shikaku Nara. One of the very few other Uzumaki heirs we know of was called Nawaki which kind of reminds me of Kawaki. I can’t pretend to know Japanese naming conventions but it wouldn’t surprise me.
I’m hoping that the placement of Boruto’s Hyakugou will also lead us to some new developments to the Rasengan. Jiraiya used a mark on Naruto’s hand to allow him to focus his chakra in acquiring the ability to use the Rasengan back in the day.
Naruto’s mark (applied by brush)
I’ve argued before that I think Sakura’s pink hair and her capacity for Hyakugou might suggest that her Haruno legacy might be connected to Uzushiogakure. The Uzumaki couldn’t have been the only clan in the Hidden Eddy Village, the Haruno aren’t a big clan in Konohagakure and in the alternate universe Sakura’s dad was Hokage. It’s never been confirmed but her pink hair might be a lighter shade of the Uzumaki Red
Sakura Hyakugou Release
Uzumaki Red Hair
Of course Kawaki doesn’t have red hair but then again who has blond and dark hair = maybe he dyed his red locks or like Naruto and Boruto he is an exception to Uzumaki red:
Kawaki
There also seem to be further hints that Boruto’s Rasengan doesn’t just disappear but skips between dimensions. Momoshiki and Sasuke who both have Rinnegan and Sharinnegan can see the invisible but they wouldn’t be able to see objects that have traversed dimensions only to jump back. Something tells me that the Ootsutsuki’s main ability is to warp dimensions, travel between them and
Disappearing Rasengan?
The markings on Boruto’s arm kind of remind me not just of the Vajra from the Senju clan but also the markings from Obito’s Mask when he first learned to move between dimensions:
Obito Mask Markings
Boruto Markings
If there is some kind of pun at work in the Name of Boruto and his connection to blue then it would be nice to see Boruto perfect the Rasengan that Kakashi never quite managed but spend a good part of his training attempting to develop… the Lightning Rasengan…
Lightning Rasengan
Can’t see lightning amongst Naruto’s Tailed beast Rasengan
Which leaves me with one last thought. Boruto is the heir to the Uzumaki through his grandmother Kushina. He is heir to the Hyuuga through his mother, the Byakugan Princess Hinata. He is heir to Asura through his father Naruto (the Uzumaki are also descendants of Asura like the Senju and Naruto is Asura’s reincarnation). His master Sasuke is the reincarnation of Indra. The last piece of the puzzle might be that diamond on Boruto’s hand. You see the Sanskrit for Vajra does not just translate as lightning .. the alternative translation for Vajra is diamond. This would explain why Tsunade and Sakura become tougher than rock when they use their Hyakugou. More importantly this would also complete the trinity of powers residing in Boruto, the boy with the bluest of blue blood … Sun (Naruto / Asura), Moon (Sasuke / Indra) and Diamond (Sakura / Vajra). This brings me back to Hagoromo - what if he is able to use not just the power of the sun and moon but lightning as well...
A clap of thunder? - Hagoromo’s true power combining the powers of all of team 7 (Sun left / Moon Right / Diamond between the hands)
Wikipedia on Vajra
The second biggest reveal of this chapter was that Boruto has been given a new form of the Hyakugou - the diamond first seen on Tsunade’s forehead.
Boruto
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The Hyakugou has never been fully explored as a technique in the same way that the Mangekyou has. You might think that the Hyakugou is nowhere near as powerful as the mangekyou but I think there is reason to believe that it might be.
If you’ve read any of my theories before then you will appreciate that I tend to think Kishi gives us lots of hidden clues before he actually reveals major plot points. One of his favourite places to hide little details is in the statues that litter Konoha and the ninja world. Two of my favourite statues are the ones outside the main hall in Konoha. The Statue on the left seemed to represent the Uchiha while the statue on the right always seemed to represent the Senju. The Statues were placed outside the main hall where the peace treaty between the Uchiha and Senju was concluded (although it looks like they replaced the roof) and the two statues seemed to correspond to the two clans.
Two Statues
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Statue on the Left
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The Second Statue meanwhile appeared to show a Buddha with what looks like the Hyakugou:
Buddha Hyakugou?
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To me it has always appeared as though these two statues represent equal and opposite forces much as Naruto and Sasuke, Kakashi and Obito, Ninshuu and Ninjutsu,…. Need I go on. If the Statue on the Left represented the Mangekou fully realised then perhaps the statue on the right represents the Hyakugou. I don’t know about you but I’ve never really rated the Hyakugou as being on a par with the Mangekyou but perhaps we haven’t seen the potential of the Hyakugou fully realised yet.
Which leads me to wonder whether this new run of Boruto chapters will finally get round to exploring one of the great mysteries of the Narutoverse that has been left unresolved… whatever happened to the Uzumaki Clan?
Mystery
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I’m probably jumping ahead of myself here but what the hell, I’ll try and fill in the gaps. The most interesting thing about the Hyakugou is where it came from. The earliest character in the Narutoverse timeline to actually be shown with the Hyakugou is not Tsunade but her mother Mito.
Mito Hyakugou
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Mito belonged to the Uzumaki Clan. She was married to Hashirama as part of an arranged marriage. Given that Tsunade is often referred to as a Princess and Hashirama has never been referred to as royalty it would appear that Mito was the one with blue blood. Her garb appears to be much more regal than the Senju or any of the clans of Konoha except perhaps the Hyuuga. It would appear to me that the Uzumaki clan chose to solidify their alliance with the Senju by marrying one of their highborn girls to the leader of the then newly formed powerhouse hidden village of Konoha. Konoha had in it’s possession the Nine Tailed Fox and Uzushiogakure had in its possession one of the few people able to contain the fox… Mito (everyone’s a winner). Years later when Mito was growing too old and weak to contain Kurama they needed to send another princess to take over fox sitting duties … Naruto’s mother Kushina.
Kushina Jinchuuriki
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Why would the Uzumaki need to send a replacement for Mito when Konoha had two heirs to Mito? Perhaps Tsunade hadn’t inherited enough of her Uzumaki heritage to contain the fox. Perhaps her mother realised that Tsunade would not be able to contain the fox after her lover mysteriously died (the Uzumaki used love to counterbalance the hate of Kurama before Naruto won him over). We haven’t been shown whether Tsunade was ever looked at as a potential Jinchuuriki but I imagine they would have tried much as the Village of Sand kept on forcing the One Tail into the heirs of Kazekage.
This got me thinking. We saw in this last chapter that Boruto has acquired the Hyakugou on his palm. We have not seen the Hyakugou placed anywhere but the forehead but then again we haven’t seen the Hyakugou on a male either. We know that the Hyakugou is some sort reservoir of chakra and that when it is released, patterns form from the marking and spread around the body.
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What if the markings that we know Boruto emanates during his fight with Kawaki are in fact the release of his Hyakugou. What’s more… what if his opponent is also a user of the Hyakugou. We have met powerful members of most of the clans of the ninja world but we have never gotten to see a fully developed Uzumaki using the secret Uzumaki techniques before with the possible exception of Tsunade. What if Kawaki has the same markings as Boruto because like Boruto he is also an Uzumaki?
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Boruto Hyakugou Release?
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Kawaki Hyakugou Release?
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I have always wondered whether the disappearance of the Uzushiogakure (the Hidden Eddy Village) would be addressed. I have suspected that Orochimaru might have been behind it. Who better to defeat / seal away Naruto than a member of the clan famous for being able to seal the tailed beasts. It might also explain where this kid has come from since we have met pretty much every other powerful clan in the Narutoverse except the Uzumaki. I don’t know whether there is some kind of a clue in the name as well. You may have noticed that clans tend to share variations on the same name …. Shikamaru / Shikadai / Shikaku Nara. One of the very few other Uzumaki heirs we know of was called Nawaki which kind of reminds me of Kawaki. I can’t pretend to know Japanese naming conventions but it wouldn’t surprise me.
I’m hoping that the placement of Boruto’s Hyakugou will also lead us to some new developments to the Rasengan. Jiraiya used a mark on Naruto’s hand to allow him to focus his chakra in acquiring the ability to use the Rasengan back in the day.
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I’ve argued before that I think Sakura’s pink hair and her capacity for Hyakugou might suggest that her Haruno legacy might be connected to Uzushiogakure. The Uzumaki couldn’t have been the only clan in the Hidden Eddy Village, the Haruno aren’t a big clan in Konohagakure and in the alternate universe Sakura’s dad was Hokage. It’s never been confirmed but her pink hair might be a lighter shade of the Uzumaki Red
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Of course Kawaki doesn’t have red hair but then again who has blond and dark hair = maybe he dyed his red locks or like Naruto and Boruto he is an exception to Uzumaki red:
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There also seem to be further hints that Boruto’s Rasengan doesn’t just disappear but skips between dimensions. Momoshiki and Sasuke who both have Rinnegan and Sharinnegan can see the invisible but they wouldn’t be able to see objects that have traversed dimensions only to jump back. Something tells me that the Ootsutsuki’s main ability is to warp dimensions, travel between them and
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Obito Mask Markings
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Lightning Rasengan
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Which leaves me with one last thought. Boruto is the heir to the Uzumaki through his grandmother Kushina. He is heir to the Hyuuga through his mother, the Byakugan Princess Hinata. He is heir to Asura through his father Naruto (the Uzumaki are also descendants of Asura like the Senju and Naruto is Asura’s reincarnation). His master Sasuke is the reincarnation of Indra. The last piece of the puzzle might be that diamond on Boruto’s hand. You see the Sanskrit for Vajra does not just translate as lightning .. the alternative translation for Vajra is diamond. This would explain why Tsunade and Sakura become tougher than rock when they use their Hyakugou. More importantly this would also complete the trinity of powers residing in Boruto, the boy with the bluest of blue blood … Sun (Naruto / Asura), Moon (Sasuke / Indra) and Diamond (Sakura / Vajra). This brings me back to Hagoromo - what if he is able to use not just the power of the sun and moon but lightning as well...
A clap of thunder? - Hagoromo’s true power combining the powers of all of team 7 (Sun left / Moon Right / Diamond between the hands)
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Ansatsuken
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I'm not sure that it is Momoshiki that is giving the seal to Boruto, he may be another Ootsutsuki.
If it is Momo:
-How did he gain 4 abilities that would have saved him during the fight, the ability to disappear from non byakugan users, to read future (sharingan precognition is fodder compared to that), to stop the ennemies movements from distance (like Kaguya in the anime fillers), and to stop time?
-Why does he talk and act completely differently than Momoshiki?
-If all his clothes has been renewed and wounds healed, why did he change his original haircut, and what about his sandals, why didn't he repair his horns?
-Why his horns are different?It's not just like it can be Momo's horns broken, the orientation is different.
-Momoshiki wasn't tall, but this guy is about Boruto's height.
-Momoshiki had not a particularly strong chakra, he had not a huge quantity of chakra, or even jutsus above our imagination.Momoshiki can't give Boruto a significant power-up.Boruto needs a power up by a guy that is leagues above Naruto and Sasuke and Momo clearly wasn't, this guy may be, his base techniques are quite strong.
If it is Momo:
-How did he gain 4 abilities that would have saved him during the fight, the ability to disappear from non byakugan users, to read future (sharingan precognition is fodder compared to that), to stop the ennemies movements from distance (like Kaguya in the anime fillers), and to stop time?
-Why does he talk and act completely differently than Momoshiki?
-If all his clothes has been renewed and wounds healed, why did he change his original haircut, and what about his sandals, why didn't he repair his horns?
-Why his horns are different?It's not just like it can be Momo's horns broken, the orientation is different.
-Momoshiki wasn't tall, but this guy is about Boruto's height.
-Momoshiki had not a particularly strong chakra, he had not a huge quantity of chakra, or even jutsus above our imagination.Momoshiki can't give Boruto a significant power-up.Boruto needs a power up by a guy that is leagues above Naruto and Sasuke and Momo clearly wasn't, this guy may be, his base techniques are quite strong.
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Just re-reading some of the old posts - Demon spirit ?
1st of all what do you think how was this demon even born. There must be something more from the Shinju.
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This right here ... this thing does look like Zetsu and if u noticed it has 6 fingers and spiky shoulders
Also while Karin talking here, the sentence isnt finished so... im guessing there is something connected to Orochimaru / Kurama after all they got the same eyes, or maybe it was the same thing she sensed from Sasuke.
There is so much unexplained ... good read brother !
1st of all what do you think how was this demon even born. There must be something more from the Shinju.
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This right here ... this thing does look like Zetsu and if u noticed it has 6 fingers and spiky shoulders
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Also while Karin talking here, the sentence isnt finished so... im guessing there is something connected to Orochimaru / Kurama after all they got the same eyes, or maybe it was the same thing she sensed from Sasuke.
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There is so much unexplained ... good read brother !
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I can see your argument but I think it is pretty clear that that is meant to be Momoshiki. There are differences between the living Momoshiki and ghost Momoshiki but I think the transformations he experienced before his death explain the changes. We've only seen a couple of ghost characters on Naruto. The closest examples would be Obito and Hagoromo. If you go back over the old chapters you'll notice that both Hagoromo and Obito dissipate in the same way as Momoshiki (being blown away like a puff of smoke before they move onto the other side). Hagoromo has a long conversation with Naruto and Sasuke and Obito has a long conversation with Kakashi before they both finally move on. I don't think he has suddenly acquired to power to stop time ... he is just leaving a final gift to the kid who defeated him. Hagormo left Naruto and Sasuke the Sun and Moon Seals while Obito transferred his Sharingan to Karachi as final gifts in the same way.
I gathered some panels to prove the points but I'm having trouble with the picture editor I use at the moment so you'll just have to trust me when I say I don't think there is anything particularly new in what Momoshiki does. It's kind of like Star Wars with the Force Ghosts. I think there is a deeper explanation but that'll take some time to put together and ties in with the Vajra stuff above. I don't know anything for certain so you might be right but I think there is a more elegant explanation that ties everything together quite nicely. I am not a Buddhist, so I'm having to look a lot of this stuff up from scratch but I've read enough to think that Buddhism provides the answers to how this part of the series fits together. I'll try and put together a better explanation when I get the time.
Thanks,
I think there is more to come about the Ootsutsuki Royal Family. Momoshiki and Kinshiki were guardians of another shinju that had decimated another planet / dimension. We only really know for certain that there was a Princess amongst the Ootsutsuki who came to Naruto's world. All I'm doing is speculating about the existence of an Ootsutsuki king that wants a more perfect body to serve as a vessel for his spirit. Very little of this theory has ever actually been confirmed but I think it ties in with the references that Kishi makes to various myths and legends. I imagine the Demon will only be revealed very shortly before the series comes to a close if ever. While the theory is far from proven it has been able to anticipate a good number of events over the years I've been writing it (on this site and previous forums). The theory pretty much boils down to - I think Orochimaru is the final villain and the rest is all just a collection of ideas on what his true identity is, what he could be responsible for and why so many characters are far more terrified of him than anyone else. I like writing theories and people seem to like reading them... I don't know whether any of it is actually true but I'll argue my case.
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