The Curtains Fall Back At Last...

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So the 6th coffin really is Madara. Damn. Kishi looks like he's trolling us , again.

Now how the fuck does someone who wants to wipe out the Uchiha, knows everything about sharingan, can go toe to toe with both minato and itachi and yet fool them both into believing that he is in fact Madara.....actually be someone else......?

Well the masked guy as we all know was the founder of Akatsuki, so this person is definitely someone with big interests. He knows just about everything there is to know about the uchiha, so people are saying he's likely to be one of them, with ideas ranging from Obito to Izuna to Kagami. But then there's a problem, rather two problems:
1. Tobi knows every tiny detail and minute knowledge of the Sage of the 6 paths, his techs such as izanagi and seems to have complete knowledge of the doujutsu the rinnegan. What normal uchiha would know so much..? Yes, Izuna had MS, but it requires EMS to know more, and the rinnegan to know all as inscribed on the Uchiha tablet. Izuna's knowledge would at best have been equal to Itachi's, who obviously did'nt know everything about the Sage the way Tobi did.
2. This point is more important. Why does Tobi's sharingan always stay activated, a sign of a non uchiha having that eye transplanted(such as Danzo, Kakashi, etc).
If we now assume that our Tobi is not an uchiha, who could he possibly be?
The sage of the 6 paths is the only character we know of who fits the bill and would have this much knowledge, as well as this much ability to influence the ninja world so profoundly, what with forming Akatsuki and gathering tailed beasts....he was in charge of the original 10 tails after all.
Or Tobi could just be the grim reaper:
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Seriously though, amazing chapter, and if we were to overlook the whole sharingan active debate, it could be izuna as well. But i just hope it is'nt obito, cuz that would make kishi a troll.
 

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The problems with the Tobi=Elder son theory is:

- How is he still alive? Yin/Yang Release: Creation of all things maybe? Could be why he knows so much and why he hates Senju's will of fire.
- He is supposed to have inherited the Rinnegan. What happened to it? Did he "give" it to Nagato? Would being a Uzumaki have any relevance as to why he gave it? Is this why he uses a Sharingan?
- Shouldn't he, more than anyone else, be compatible with the Sharingan. Why can't he use his Sharingan like a proper Uchiha.
 

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The problems with the Tobi=Elder son theory is:

- How is he still alive? Yin/Yang Release: Creation of all things maybe? Could be why he knows so much and why he hates Senju's will of fire.
- He is supposed to have inherited the Rinnegan. What happened to it? Did he "give" it to Nagato? Would being a Uzumaki have any relevance as to why he gave it? Is this why he uses a Sharingan?
- Shouldn't he, more than anyone else, be compatible with the Sharingan. Why can't he use his Sharingan like a proper Uchiha.
It might be his age, i mean he's been around since the time of the first ninja.
And the Tobi character did give Nagato the rinnegan so its possible.
 

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Tobi is Madara. Like you said cyborg he had knowledge no other regular Uchiha would have. Madara would though. Madara had ems, Madara knows of Nagato and so somehow he may have had access to rinnegan as well.

Even though Madara is revived I think somehow Tobi is Madara also. Maybe by some sealing jutsu, splitting jutsu or better yet inazagi
 

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itachi's sharingan has been always active for a while now.. haven't you realized? it happens when you mastered your sharingan, it drains little chakra , and i think if tobi was someone like izuna who would have mastered their sharingan , they would have that much control over it

wikia quote "He had trained so much with his eyes that he had reached the stage where he could have his Sharingan activated for extended periods of time, with minimal drain on his chakra levels."
 
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