The current Madara does not have EMS

[EdoTensei Itachi]

I noticed a lot of people state that certain characters would not be able to beat Madara becuz he has the Rinnegan and EMS...

However, I feel the belief in his EMS is incorrect for two reasons:

1. If Mardara still had EMS he wouldn't go wasting eyes on Izanagi

2. Although the Rinnegan is powerful I feel EMS will prove to be the better of the two, and by sacrificing his left eye Madara lost the ability to ever cast Amaterasu or Susanoo.

The current masked Madara does posses regular Sharingan and maybe even Tsukuyomi, but I think he lost his EMS a long time ago... Probably in his battle with the First Hokage. (Those 6 jinchuriki paths still make him hella hard to defeat though!! xd)

 

[Luther]

This is a big fail

 

[BelphaZar]

no how do you think madara reflected the ameturatsu that itachi left in sasuke for if madara trys to reveal the truth to sasuke

 

[EdoTensei Itachi]

This is a big fail

Not the most constructive response...

Dont mind that you dont agree with me just would like to know y you disagree. That will help to create good discussion

 

[ganjababy]

I noticed a lot of people state that certain characters would not be able to beat Madara becuz he has the Rinnegan and EMS...

However, I feel the belief in his EMS is incorrect for two reasons:

1. If Mardara still had EMS he wouldn't go wasting eyes on Izanagi

2. Although the Rinnegan is powerful I feel EMS will prove to be the better of the two, and by sacrificing his left eye Madara lost the ability to ever cast Amaterasu or Susanoo.

The current masked Madara does posses regular Sharingan and maybe even Tsukuyomi, but I think he lost his EMS a long time ago... Probably in his battle with the First Hokage. (Those 6 jinchuriki paths still make him hella hard to defeat though!! xd)

am r u retarded? ameterasu and susanoo as far as we know in the entire series is a power revered to itachi and sasuke, each magekyou has different powers, i dont recall any other sharigan user using ameterasu or susanoo else kakashi would have used them by now

also do you see the amount of sahringangs madara has in his laboratory, he can use izanagi as much as he wants, or until it runs out.
also madara does have ems, they have said this in the manga and series a number of times, idk why he dont use it but he definitely had it, plus his abilities now to jump from dimension to dimension as he wants obviously is not a power from regular sharingan, mabe they dont wanna show how his ems looks for some reason, but if regular sharingan had that power itachi and sasuke would be using it

 

[Owarij]

Lol Madara has never shown his ems and i also don't believe he has it , this is all part of my theory that he put his ems in nagato to form the rinnegan, uzumaki + sharingan + tramutic moment = rinnegan , rewatch that nagato arc, nagato has never shown his normal eyes, they were always covered with his hair, he only shows his eyes with he unlocks rinnegan, this is what i think madara meant by " they were mine to begin with" To me he invested his eyes in nagato, and when they evolved/mutated w.e into the rinnegan he took them back, simply

also madara does have ems, they have said this in the manga and series a number of times, idk why he dont use it but he definitely had it, plus his abilities now to jump from dimension to dimension as he wants obviously is not a power from regular sharingan, mabe they don't wanna show how his ems looks for some reason, but if regular sharingan had that power itachi and sasuke would be using it

1) Definitely had , they showed him having it and how his ems looks, yet they haven't showed it again,

and he uses that space time jutsu with his normal sharingan , so it is not a ems or ms jutsu

 

[EdoTensei Itachi]

no how do you think madara reflected the ameturatsu that itachi left in sasuke for if madara trys to reveal the truth to sasuke

this is a better response

i think he reflected that amaterasu with izanagi... I dont think itachi knew that he had the first's cells... then after izanagi he replaced that eye with one of the many in his collection until he was again forced to use izanagi versus konan

 

[Sasuke2]

no how do you think madara reflected the ameturatsu that itachi left in sasuke for if madara trys to reveal the truth to sasuke

He used Izanagi. You can hear him scream in pain and then reappear like nothing happened.

Lol Madara has never shown his ems and i also don't believe he has it , this is all part of my theory that he put his ems in nagato to form the rinnegan, uzumaki + sharingan + tramutic moment = rinnegan , rewatch that nagato arc, nagato has never shown his normal eyes, they were always covered with his hair, he only shows his eyes with he unlocks rinnegan, this is what i think madara meant by " they were mine to begin with"

this happened

 

[Luther]

Not the most constructive response...

Dont mind that you dont agree with me just would like to know y you disagree. That will help to create good discussion

good sportman

 

[Blade95]

Lol Madara has never shown his ems and i also don't believe he has it , this is all part of my theory that he put his ems in nagato to form the rinnegan, uzumaki + sharingan + tramutic moment = rinnegan , rewatch that nagato arc, nagato has never shown his normal eyes, they were always covered with his hair, he only shows his eyes with he unlocks rinnegan, this is what i think madara meant by " they were mine to begin with"



1) Definitely had , they showed him having it and how his ems looks, yet they haven't showed it again,

and he uses that space time jutsu with his normal sharingan , so it is not a ems or ms jutsu

Your theory of the Rinnegan makes soo much sense, by far one of the best speculations ever!

 

[EdoTensei Itachi]

am r u retarded? ameterasu and susanoo as far as we know in the entire series is a power revered to itachi and sasuke, each magekyou has different powers, i dont recall any other sharigan user using ameterasu or susanoo else kakashi would have used them by now

also do you see the amount of sahringangs madara has in his laboratory, he can use izanagi as much as he wants, or until it runs out.
also madara does have ems, they have said this in the manga and series a number of times, idk why he dont use it but he definitely had it, plus his abilities now to jump from dimension to dimension as he wants obviously is not a power from regular sharingan, mabe they dont wanna show how his ems looks for some reason, but if regular sharingan had that power itachi and sasuke would be using it

even if i am wrong i would at least like it if people would take into account that without the left Sharingan, there is no way he could be using Amaterasu(needs the left eye) or Susanoo(needs both eyes)

 

[Sasuke2]

its not his theory ... couple of people came up with that including me before

 

[AbukariDogMan]

no how do you think madara reflected the ameturatsu that itachi left in sasuke for if madara trys to reveal the truth to sasuke

He absorbed it into his dimension thing, or he become intangible.

 

[AbukariDogMan]

I noticed a lot of people state that certain characters would not be able to beat Madara becuz he has the Rinnegan and EMS...

However, I feel the belief in his EMS is incorrect for two reasons:

1. If Mardara still had EMS he wouldn't go wasting eyes on Izanagi

2. Although the Rinnegan is powerful I feel EMS will prove to be the better of the two, and by sacrificing his left eye Madara lost the ability to ever cast Amaterasu or Susanoo.

The current masked Madara does posses regular Sharingan and maybe even Tsukuyomi, but I think he lost his EMS a long time ago... Probably in his battle with the First Hokage. (Those 6 jinchuriki paths still make him hella hard to defeat though!! xd)

He sacrificed his Left eye because he had no choice, other wise konan would have killed him. anyway i think his eye's are dameged that,s why he doesnt use them, or he cant use them because he doesnt have EMs because he is not madara

 

[Owarij]

its not his theory ... couple of people came up with that including me before

lol i actually came up with this myself after madara said that the eyes were his to begin with, people argued he was just lieing, but i saw no reason for him to lie to someone he was about to kill anyways, madara lies but not for any apparent reason, but i guess other people may have came up with it 2. i also have a theory on tobi being izuna with lots of details backing it up, i'll make a thread about that later

 

[Sasuke2]

lol i actually came up with this myself after madara said that the eyes were his to begin with, people argued he was just lieing, but i saw no reason for him to lie to someone he was about to kill anyways, madara lies but not for any apparent reason, but i guess other people may have came up with it 2. i also have a theory on tobi being izuna with lots of details backing it up, i'll make a thread about that later

No. About Madara giving his EMS to Nagato, an Uzumaki to create Rinnegan is something I said some time ago in my "Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara" thread. go and read .... nor you or me were first to come up with that

 

[Owarij]

No. About Madara giving his EMS to Nagato, an Uzumaki to create Rinnegan is something I said some time ago in my "Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara" thread. go and read .... nor you or me were first to come up with that

ahh kk, i posted mines on another forum a few months ago ,this is my first time on this site

 

[Sarutobi Sasuke]

Lol Madara has never shown his ems and i also don't believe he has it , this is all part of my theory that he put his ems in nagato to form the rinnegan, uzumaki + sharingan + tramutic moment = rinnegan , rewatch that nagato arc, nagato has never shown his normal eyes, they were always covered with his hair, he only shows his eyes with he unlocks rinnegan, this is what i think madara meant by " they were mine to begin with" To me he invested his eyes in nagato, and when they evolved/mutated w.e into the rinnegan he took them back, simply

This is the best theory I've read on why Madara claims original possession over Nagato's Rinnegan.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

I noticed a lot of people state that certain characters would not be able to beat Madara becuz he has the Rinnegan and EMS...

However, I feel the belief in his EMS is incorrect for two reasons:

1. If Mardara still had EMS he wouldn't go wasting eyes on Izanagi

2. Although the Rinnegan is powerful I feel EMS will prove to be the better of the two, and by sacrificing his left eye Madara lost the ability to ever cast Amaterasu or Susanoo.

The current masked Madara does posses regular Sharingan and maybe even Tsukuyomi, but I think he lost his EMS a long time ago... Probably in his battle with the First Hokage. (Those 6 jinchuriki paths still make him hella hard to defeat though!! xd)

are u by any chance retarded ?

 

[~Yubel~]

Current Madara not having ems is not a surprise, if he had it then we would´ve seen it as there have been situations where he could make use of it.