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So far we have seen a lot of theories/threads comin out.. but 3 main ones and the most irritating ones are:
1. If Madara=Danzo
2. If Danzo=Obito
3. If Obito=Madara

So whats the conclusion?? obviously we cannot have Madara=Obito=Danzo all 3 as same person.. caz that wud just be retarded..
So I put togethor some imp points that go FOR and AGAINST these theories..
You guys can decide as to what actually might be possible.. Obviously these points are based on the fact of the manga released so far... future releases might change things..
but for now we have this.. also you can always add/delete more points as everyone has their own opinion

1. Are Madara and Danzo same person?

Main points for this theory

a. They share the same hairstyle and faceline.. (lol, yea they do.. check it out)
b. PPl say Danzo cud b behind kyuubi attack on konoha.. controllin kyuubi.. then put the blame on uchiha's.. hav 4th fight kyuubi n get rid of him.. just some reason for him to become hokage
c. Danzo is as old as 3rd.. hes the 4th surviving uchiha (Uchiha Danzo.. lol.. seriously this name is so gay)
d. Danzo has a metal arm and we know Madara stopped a sword with the same arm.. how cud he possibly do that without havin solid arm?? so cud this mean they r same???
e. Danzo has secretly formed ROOT ANBU.. so he can spy as to what goes on in konoha.. he wants revenge for his defeat with 1st hokage.. that is if he is actually madara??
f. Both have a sharingan in their right eyes ATLEAST**??

Points against this theory.

a. We have seen the right eye sharingan of both guys.. They look completely diff.. they can't b same.
b. danzo has jus implanted sharingan on his right eye plus metal arm through oro or some other means..
c. Madara was behind 9 tails attack and is still very much alive as he has revealed that himself on many occasions
d. The timeline both were born are completely different.. (Madara shud actually be of Danzo's dad age)
e. Madara tells sasuke to kill the 3 advisors who ordered to kill uchiha clan.. which includes danzo????
f. Madara is Itachi's master.. Itachi wud hav known.
g. Even Jiraya thought so tht Madara was stil alive..
h. 4th Hokage himself made it clear to naruto.. who was behind 9 tails attack.. masked guy frm akatsuki.. tobi/madara who sawthrough all his attacks??


Conclusion: Danzo and Madara r 2 diff ppl... what u guys think??

2. If danzo and obito are same ppl.

Points for this theory:
a. Both of them have their right sides crushed
b. Danzo's right eye looks messed up.. as was obito's by the stone..
c. Obito's left eye was taken by kakashi.. so the word is... obito/danzo cud hav had implantation of regualr eye on his left side done by mr oro>> a special pact b/w them.. helpin each other out for their own goals
d. Madara found obito's body.. saved him.. told him abt 3 elders plannin to eliminate uchiha clan.. obito kills real danzo.. they use a face shiftin tech to look lik danzo.. then spy for madara frm inside..

Points against the theory

a. They are again from different timelines.. danzo is way older to obito.. Danzo is as old as the 3rd and the Obito is as old as kakashi.. they cannot b same
b. Obito is dead... duh??
c. Danzo jus had obito's eye or someone else's eye implanted by oro or some other means...
d. obito's right side was completely crushed... danzo's right side is only bandaged.. his face on right side looks normal..
e. Their personalities are completely diff.. danzo's ideas and Obito's thinking don't match up..
f. Obito's left eye was given to kakashi.. but danzo has perfectly normal lookin left eye..
g. Danzo was seen fightin with hanzo.. against pain long time backk.. danzo formed ROOT ANBU n is knwn for lng time since 3rd.. Obito was born n raised after that alng with kakashi..

Conclusion: 50-50.. wat u guys think??

Last but not least

3. Are Obito and Madara same:

Points for this theory
a. Obito's left eye was given to kakashi.. when kakashi uses MS.. the jutsu used to move things to diff dimension.. it looks same as when tobi/madara uses time/space jutsu to travel.. same meanin the round thing that shows up.. so their sharingan function same way.. concludin obito n madara cud b same ppl
b. Madara has only revealed his right eye from the mask?? wat happ to his left eye.. again if he was obito then ofcourse kakashi has it??
c. they also share.. the same hairstyle.. (lol)
d. Tobi/Madara and Obito.. both share the same goofy style of speakin..
e. Another speculation is that pein cud hav used the remains of Obito to reconstruct the body and revive Madara in the body of Obito?? so y not madara's own body? may b caz it was destroyed beyond repair in battle with 1st
f. We all know 1st and Madara fought.. long long time ago... everyone's dead from that time except madara.. how??? he cud had used oro's reincarnation jutsu or somethin similar on obito's body???
g. Obito disguised as Madara.. as Madara died in battle with 1st???


Points against this theory:

a. Madara n Obito are from diff timelines.. Madara is like obito's great great grandfather..
b. Madara was shown having wrinkles on his face from old age.. if he was obito he shud look younger like kakashi??
c. Obito is long dead... his right eye n side were crushed?? Madara's right eye and face and body seem in perfect condition??
d. Madara is known to hav EMS takin eyes from his bro??
e. 4th hokage himself said to naruto.. "he saw through eveything I did, if you don't have special power like kyuubi's there is no way to defeat tobi/madara"?? If Madara's powers were depleted.. y wud 4th say somethin like that??
f. Madara told sasuke himself that he fought 1st.. every1 thought he was dead... but hes still alive??
g. some say tobi does not reveal his left eye as he is saving his chakra.. as sharingan uses lots of chakra.. only in battle he might reveal both.. so he has been able to live that long??


Conclusion: 50-50.. what yo all think???


Overall conclusion: Danzo and Madara and Obito are 3 diff ppl.. jus my opinion though
 
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So far we have seen a lot of theories/threads comin out.. but 3 main ones and the most irritating ones are:
1. If Madara=Danzo
2. If Danzo=Obito
3. If Obito=Madara

So whats the conclusion?? obviously we cannot have Madara=Obito=Danzo all 3 as same person.. caz that wud just be retarded..
So I put togethor some imp points that go FOR and AGAINST these theories..
You guys can decide as to what actually might be possible.. Obviously these points are based on the fact of the manga released so far... future releases might change things..
but for now we have this.. also you can always add/delete more points as everyone has their own opinion

1. Are Madara and Danzo same person?

Main points for this theory

a. They share the same hairstyle and faceline.. (lol, yea they do.. check it out)
b. PPl say Danzo cud b behind kyuubi attack on konoha.. controllin kyuubi.. then put the blame on uchiha's.. hav 4th fight kyuubi n get rid of him.. just some reason for him to become hokage
c. Danzo is as old as 3rd.. hes the 4th surviving uchiha (Uchiha Danzo.. lol.. seriously this name is so gay)
d. Danzo has a metal arm and we know Madara stopped a sword with the same arm.. how cud he possibly do that without havin solid arm?? so cud this mean they r same???
e. Danzo has secretly formed ROOT ANBU.. so he can spy as to what goes on in konoha.. he wants revenge for his defeat with 1st hokage.. that is if he is actually madara??
f. Both have a sharingan in their right eyes ATLEAST**??

Points against this theory.

a. We have seen the right eye sharingan of both guys.. They look completely diff.. they can't b same.
b. danzo has jus implanted sharingan on his left eye plus metal arm through oro or some other means..
c. Madara was behind 9 tails attack and is still very much alive as he has revealed that himself on many occasions
d. The timeline both were born are completely different.. (Madara shud actually be of Danzo's dad age)
e. Madara tells sasuke to kill the 3 advisors who ordered to kill uchiha clan.. which includes danzo????
f. Madara is Itachi's master.. Itachi wud hav known.
g. Even Jiraya thought so tht Madara was stil alive..
h. 4th Hokage himself made it clear to naruto.. who was behind 9 tails attack.. masked guy frm akatsuki.. tobi/madara who sawthrough all his attacks??


Conclusion: Danzo and Madara r 2 diff ppl... what u guys think??

2. If danzo and obito are same ppl.

Points for this theory:
a. Both of them have their right sides crushed
b. Danzo's right eye looks messed up.. as was obito's by the stone..
c. Obito's left eye was taken by kakashi.. so the word is... obito/danzo cud hav had implantation of regualr eye on his left side done by mr oro>> a special pact b/w them.. helpin each other out for their own goals
d. Madara found obito's body.. saved him.. told him abt 3 elders plannin to eliminate uchiha clan.. obito kills real danzo.. they use a face shiftin tech to look lik danzo.. then spy for madara frm inside..

Points against the theory

a. They are again from different timelines.. danzo is way older to obito.. Danzo is as old as the 3rd and the Obito is as old as kakashi.. they cannot b same
b. Obito is dead... duh??
c. Danzo jus had obito's eye or someone else's eye implanted by oro or some other means...
d. obito's right side was completely crushed... danzo's right side is only bandaged.. his face on right side looks normal..
e. Their personalities are completely diff.. danzo's ideas and Obito's thinking don't match up..
f. Obito's left eye was given to kakashi.. but danzo has perfectly normal lookin left eye..
g. Danzo was seen fightin with hanzo.. against pain long time backk.. danzo formed ROOT ANBU n is knwn for lng time since 3rd.. Obito was born n raised after that alng with kakashi..

Conclusion: 50-50.. wat u guys think??

Last but not least

3. Are Obito and Madara same:

Points for this theory
a. Obito's right eye was given to kakashi.. when kakashi uses MS.. the jutsu used to move things to diff dimension.. it looks same as when tobi/madara uses time/space jutsu to travel.. same meanin the round thing that shows up.. so their sharingan function same way.. concludin obito n madara cud b same ppl
b. Madara has only revealed his right eye from the mask?? wat happ to his left eye.. again if he was obito then ofcourse kakashi has it??
c. they also share.. the same hairstyle.. (lol)
d. Tobi/Madara and Obito.. both share the same goofy style of speakin..
e. Another speculation is that pein cud hav used the remains of Obito to reconstruct the body and revive Madara in the body of Obito?? so y not madara's own body? may b caz it was destroyed beyond repair in battle with 1st
f. We all know 1st and Madara fought.. long long time ago... everyone's dead from that time except madara.. how??? he cud had used oro's reincarnation jutsu or somethin similar on obito's body???
g. Obito disguised as Madara.. as Madara died in battle with 1st???


Points against this theory:

a. Madara n Obito are from diff timelines.. Madara is like obito's great great grandfather..
b. Madara was shown having wrinkles on his face from old age.. if he was obito he shud look younger like kakashi??
c. Obito is long dead... his right eye n side were crushed?? Madara's right eye and face and body seem in perfect condition??
d. Madara is known to hav EMS takin eyes from his bro??
e. 4th hokage himself said to naruto.. "he saw through eveything I did, if you don't have special power like kyuubi's there is no way to defeat tobi/madara"?? If Madara's powers were depleted.. y wud 4th say somethin like that??
f. Madara told sasuke himself that he fought 1st.. every1 thought he was dead... but hes still alive??
g. some say tobi does not reveal his left eye as he is saving his chakra.. as sharingan uses lots of chakra.. only in battle he might reveal both.. so he has been able to live that long??


Conclusion: 50-50.. what yo all think???


Overall conclusion: Danzo and Madara and Obito are 3 diff ppl.. jus my opinion though

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i don't know but it really seems that his ''sharingan'' is an implented one like kakashi's... but that's just my thought.
 

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So far we have seen a lot of theories/threads comin out.. but 3 main ones and the most irritating ones are:
1. If Madara=Danzo
2. If Danzo=Obito
3. If Obito=Madara

So whats the conclusion?? obviously we cannot have Madara=Obito=Danzo all 3 as same person.. caz that wud just be retarded..
So I put togethor some imp points that go FOR and AGAINST these theories..
You guys can decide as to what actually might be possible.. Obviously these points are based on the fact of the manga released so far... future releases might change things..
but for now we have this.. also you can always add/delete more points as everyone has their own opinion

1. Are Madara and Danzo same person?

Main points for this theory

a. They share the same hairstyle and faceline.. (lol, yea they do.. check it out)
b. PPl say Danzo cud b behind kyuubi attack on konoha.. controllin kyuubi.. then put the blame on uchiha's.. hav 4th fight kyuubi n get rid of him.. just some reason for him to become hokage
c. Danzo is as old as 3rd.. hes the 4th surviving uchiha (Uchiha Danzo.. lol.. seriously this name is so gay)
d. Danzo has a metal arm and we know Madara stopped a sword with the same arm.. how cud he possibly do that without havin solid arm?? so cud this mean they r same???
e. Danzo has secretly formed ROOT ANBU.. so he can spy as to what goes on in konoha.. he wants revenge for his defeat with 1st hokage.. that is if he is actually madara??
f. Both have a sharingan in their right eyes ATLEAST**??

Points against this theory.

a. We have seen the right eye sharingan of both guys.. They look completely diff.. they can't b same.
b. danzo has jus implanted sharingan on his left eye plus metal arm through oro or some other means..
c. Madara was behind 9 tails attack and is still very much alive as he has revealed that himself on many occasions
d. The timeline both were born are completely different.. (Madara shud actually be of Danzo's dad age)
e. Madara tells sasuke to kill the 3 advisors who ordered to kill uchiha clan.. which includes danzo????
f. Madara is Itachi's master.. Itachi wud hav known.
g. Even Jiraya thought so tht Madara was stil alive..
h. 4th Hokage himself made it clear to naruto.. who was behind 9 tails attack.. masked guy frm akatsuki.. tobi/madara who sawthrough all his attacks??


Conclusion: Danzo and Madara r 2 diff ppl... what u guys think??

2. If danzo and obito are same ppl.

Points for this theory:
a. Both of them have their right sides crushed
b. Danzo's right eye looks messed up.. as was obito's by the stone..
c. Obito's left eye was taken by kakashi.. so the word is... obito/danzo cud hav had implantation of regualr eye on his left side done by mr oro>> a special pact b/w them.. helpin each other out for their own goals
d. Madara found obito's body.. saved him.. told him abt 3 elders plannin to eliminate uchiha clan.. obito kills real danzo.. they use a face shiftin tech to look lik danzo.. then spy for madara frm inside..

Points against the theory

a. They are again from different timelines.. danzo is way older to obito.. Danzo is as old as the 3rd and the Obito is as old as kakashi.. they cannot b same
b. Obito is dead... duh??
c. Danzo jus had obito's eye or someone else's eye implanted by oro or some other means...
d. obito's right side was completely crushed... danzo's right side is only bandaged.. his face on right side looks normal..
e. Their personalities are completely diff.. danzo's ideas and Obito's thinking don't match up..
f. Obito's left eye was given to kakashi.. but danzo has perfectly normal lookin left eye..
g. Danzo was seen fightin with hanzo.. against pain long time backk.. danzo formed ROOT ANBU n is knwn for lng time since 3rd.. Obito was born n raised after that alng with kakashi..

Conclusion: 50-50.. wat u guys think??

Last but not least

3. Are Obito and Madara same:

Points for this theory
a. Obito's right eye was given to kakashi.. when kakashi uses MS.. the jutsu used to move things to diff dimension.. it looks same as when tobi/madara uses time/space jutsu to travel.. same meanin the round thing that shows up.. so their sharingan function same way.. concludin obito n madara cud b same ppl
b. Madara has only revealed his right eye from the mask?? wat happ to his left eye.. again if he was obito then ofcourse kakashi has it??
c. they also share.. the same hairstyle.. (lol)
d. Tobi/Madara and Obito.. both share the same goofy style of speakin..
e. Another speculation is that pein cud hav used the remains of Obito to reconstruct the body and revive Madara in the body of Obito?? so y not madara's own body? may b caz it was destroyed beyond repair in battle with 1st
f. We all know 1st and Madara fought.. long long time ago... everyone's dead from that time except madara.. how??? he cud had used oro's reincarnation jutsu or somethin similar on obito's body???
g. Obito disguised as Madara.. as Madara died in battle with 1st???


Points against this theory:

a. Madara n Obito are from diff timelines.. Madara is like obito's great great grandfather..
b. Madara was shown having wrinkles on his face from old age.. if he was obito he shud look younger like kakashi??
c. Obito is long dead... his right eye n side were crushed?? Madara's right eye and face and body seem in perfect condition??
d. Madara is known to hav EMS takin eyes from his bro??
e. 4th hokage himself said to naruto.. "he saw through eveything I did, if you don't have special power like kyuubi's there is no way to defeat tobi/madara"?? If Madara's powers were depleted.. y wud 4th say somethin like that??
f. Madara told sasuke himself that he fought 1st.. every1 thought he was dead... but hes still alive??
g. some say tobi does not reveal his left eye as he is saving his chakra.. as sharingan uses lots of chakra.. only in battle he might reveal both.. so he has been able to live that long??


Conclusion: 50-50.. what yo all think???


Overall conclusion: Danzo and Madara and Obito are 3 diff ppl.. jus my opinion though



I dont think danzo is any of them...........

i think danzo is danzo... because think about it... i think it would be pretty hard for obito or madara to return to the village andbecome an ELDER just like that... unless he has the whole village hypnotized and memory whiped out ...danzo is just danzo who somehow got a friggin sharingan.. hes way too old to be obito and too young to be madara.

i think danzo is danzo... the people would notice he looks alot like one of them..


and another thing hes a highly skilled konoha ninja... some old dude couldnt just come to the village and become part of its black ops... someone who is an elder probably has been in the village under the SAME name for all his life

people would notice .
 
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