The classic Minato and Itachi thing!

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Minatard totally has no counter against Itachi's surperior Genjutsu at all.

FTG warps Susano'o? Susano'o is the users Chakra, its not like it cant come back in an instant. Garbage Argumant.

Itachi's Mangekyo Sharingan sees through all of Minatard's movementum.


Minato cant even look into Itachi's eyes. Thats a total disadvantage.

So lemme ask this. HOW is Minatard supose to see Amaterasu coming if he cant even look at his eyes?

This is why Minato isnt on the Top 10 at all. Only Minato Fanboys say that its been proven that Minato defeats Itachi.

Im done, i just solo-ed everybody's comment.


PS: Tell me why Minato has so much trouble trying to kill a Zetsu Clone? With help too? Ctfuu

Im done

You lose Minato Fanboys :bye:
1. How can you see something that disappear and reappear out of nowhere
2. No need just needs to throw a bunch of his Kuni around and it is possible to fight with out looking at there eyes
3. Don't to see it coming by itachi closing one eye means he has a blind side and can only see with one and need to gather up chakra to do so
4. Remember it's zetsu and obito and they are not trying to kill obito but zetsu is using him to keep his distance
 

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One eye contact and Minato is done.
Minato avoids eye contact > Amaterasu surprises him.

Inb4 someone wanks Minatos sensor skills to put him on pair with Juubi's Jinchuriki who easily sensed the Chakra built up in Sasuke's eye and countered it instantly.
you do know right even Ay dodged it......minato being a sensor can feel the chakra build up in itachi's eyes and can just FTG out of sight simple mann
 

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minato can change his chakra to sensor remember??
using that he can clearly deduce when the amaterasu will hit.....for gods sake even Ay dodged it......
as for genjutsu minato was a hokage and had a student who was a uchiha so he can clearly fight without using his eyes like guy can...
as for susanoo all minato needs is FTG to speed blitz itachi.....or just use some of his uzumaki sealing techs to block the usage of chakra or sealing the susanoo....
1:Sensor doesnt mean sh-t, Tsukuyomi cant be broken by Minato unless he had Kurama.

2: Ofc Ay dodged it, he ACTUALLY has speed, Minato just Teleoports, thats not speed its moving from point A to point B.

Characters like Naruto or Ay have speed bc their Actually moving.

Pays to know your facts :hint:

3: Susano'o argumant is still Garbage,still didnt prove me wrong.

Minato still cant seem to beat Itachi.
 
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the Uchiha made the kyuubi their B!tch , they Control him through their Eyes

the Kyuubi shat on his pants when he Saw Madara + Obito Eyes


Uchiha > Kyuubi



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in the other hand the kyuubi 1 shot minato with neg diff .....



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what choice did minato had in that fight?
either he could dodge it and let naruto die or use his body as a shield to protect naruto
show me scan where any uchiha who deflected or blocked TBB
oh right u cant
 

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you do know right even Ay dodged it......minato being a sensor can feel the chakra build up in itachi's eyes and can just FTG out of sight simple mann
I reacted to it through eye contact. As Minato fans say he will avoid any eye contact (Kabuto had to block his vision entirely), he can't react to Amaterasu. Only Juubito showed the precision to sense Chakra built up in someones eye. Nagato merely felt a pressure in the air while he wasn't even actively fighting - it was already stated that sensors can't sense and fight actively at the same time. And what about the second instant Amaterasu? Nagato smiled at Itachi before being set on fire by him.

Minato can't avoid the combo of Tsukuyomi and Tsukuyomi in the long run..
 

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1. How can you see something that disappear and reappear out of nowhere
2. No need just needs to throw a bunch of his Kuni around and it is possible to fight with out looking at there eyes
3. Don't to see it coming by itachi closing one eye means he has a blind side and can only see with one and need to gather up chakra to do so
4. Remember it's zetsu and obito and they are not trying to kill obito but zetsu is using him to keep his distance
1:You cant sneak up on someone like Itachi Uchiha, you just cant. Ask Orochimaru.

2 & 3: Doesnt matter Genjutsu solos regardless.

4: Well thats pretty sad considering Itachi's brother solo-ed 6 in 30 secs
 

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1:Sensor doesnt mean sh-t, Tsukuyomi cant be broken by Minato unless he had Kurama.

2: Ofc Ay dodged it, he ACTUALLY has speed, Minato just Teleoports, thats not speed its moving from point A to point B.

Characters like Naruto or Ay have speed bc their Actually moving.

Pays to know your facts :hint:

3: Susano'o argumant is still Garbage,still didnt prove me wrong.

Minato still cant seem to beat Itachi.
1. True but minato can fight by just not looking into his eyes by just his sensing ability.
2. Boy you really need to re read minato vs ay chapter, he clearly has the fastest reaction time if he senses amaterasu he just teleports to back of itachi and slits his throat.
3. Susanoo point is garbage too how can itachi hit him while he teleports from place to another leading itachi to drain his chakra.
 

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1:You cant sneak up on someone like Itachi Uchiha, you just cant. Ask Orochimaru.

2 & 3: Doesnt matter Genjutsu solos regardless.

4: Well thats pretty sad considering Itachi's brother solo-ed 6 in 30 secs
that zetus's did not take someone's body as a shield
if that zetsu's had taken alive itachi's body as a host even sasuke could not kill them because of emotions
 

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1. True but minato can fight by just not looking into his eyes by just his sensing ability.
2. Boy you really need to re read minato vs ay chapter, he clearly has the fastest reaction time if he senses amaterasu he just teleports to back of itachi and slits his throat.
3. Susanoo point is garbage too how can itachi hit him while he teleports from place to another leading itachi to drain his chakra.
Complete Susanoo drains his chakra fast - yes, ribcage Susanoo - no
Kunai cant destroy that be honest......
 

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I reacted to it through eye contact. As Minato fans say he will avoid any eye contact (Kabuto had to block his vision entirely), he can't react to Amaterasu. Only Juubito showed the precision to sense Chakra built up in someones eye. Nagato merely felt a pressure in the air while he wasn't even actively fighting - it was already stated that sensors can't sense and fight actively at the same time. And what about the second instant Amaterasu? Nagato smiled at Itachi before being set on fire by him.

Minato can't avoid the combo of Tsukuyomi and Tsukuyomi in the long run..
haa you clearly dont know that itachi cant use those techs simultaneously or he will kill himself by depleting his own chakra
 

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Complete Susanoo drains his chakra fast - yes, ribcage Susanoo - no
Kunai cant destroy that be honest......
who is saying that minato will destroy susanoo he just needs a kunai to be near itachi's feet since minato's FTG mark moves with the users command
if that mark set on itachi all minato has to do is FTG and its game over
 

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1:You cant sneak up on someone like Itachi Uchiha, you just cant. Ask Orochimaru.

2 & 3: Doesnt matter Genjutsu solos regardless.

4: Well thats pretty sad considering Itachi's brother solo-ed 6 in 30 secs
1. If orochimaru had ftg he could lol
2. You must have for got minato can make a clone that can also use ftg so now itachi has a choice he will only be able one them with genjutsus but what about the other
4. Yea when they where all by themselfs minato don't want to kill obito BZ even said so himself that he can't handle them so since obito still had life in him he attached himself so that they can't really harm him
 

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haa you clearly dont know that itachi cant use those techs simultaneously or he will kill himself by depleting his own chakra
That thing again. Itachi used Tsukuyomi against Sasuke, endured it being broken, set on fire half of the forest surrounding the Uchiha palace with Amaterasu and used Susanoo. Despite of being in a sick state near his death. We witnessed already actions of a healthier Itachi which then canonically has even more stamina.

The Minato supporters have no legit argument, hence they say Minato will just fight with closed eyes, sense anything Itachi does, avoid it and attack him. So much bullshit I can't even tell.
 
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who is saying that minato will destroy susanoo he just needs a kunai to be near itachi's feet since minato's FTG mark moves with the users command
if that mark set on itachi all minato has to do is FTG and its game over
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Counter this, how his sensing ''abilities'' would help him here.........
 

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Genjutsu this and genjustu that. It all Itachi fans cling to and it proves how much they are backed into a corner.

Minato won't get caught in tsukyomi because it only works via eye contact. Might Guy has shown to be able to fight without looking into the opponents eyes and that means Minato can do the same; being a sensor n' all. The only genjustu Minato has to worry about are normal ones and he can easily break those. He can also escape 3t genjutsu for he has excellent chakra controll. Before people say Itachi will blitz Minato while hes trapped in a genjustu, why didn't Killer Bee get blitzed?

Ay was easily able to dodge amaterasu because of his speed and relexes. Minato, who has better speed and relexes, will easily do the same. Not to mention that Minato is a sensor.

Susanoo is but a TEMPORARY defense for Itachi and it quickly drains him. Nothing susanoo has is fast enough to hit Minato and FTG Barrier will teleport anything. If Minato teleports susanoo, Itachi will have to use up more chakra and inflict more pain upon himself to activate a new one.

This is but a quick summary on why Minato>Itachi.

I still expect more "genjutsu one-shots" claims after this.
 
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Genjutsu this and genjustu that. It all Itachi fans cling to and it proves how much they are backed into a corner.

Minato won't get caught in tsukyomi because it only works via eye contact. Might Guy has shown to be able to fight without looking into the opponents eyes and that means Minato can do the same; being a sensor n' all. The only genjustu Minato has worry about are normal ones and he can easily break those. He can also escape 3t genjutsu for he has excellent controll. Before people say Itachi will blitz Minato while hes trapped in a genjustu, why didn't Killer Bee get blitzed?

Ay was easily able to dodge amaterasu because of his speed and relexes. Minato, who has better speed and relexes, will easily do the same. Not to mention that Minato is a sensor.

Susanoo is but a TEMPORARY defense for Itachi and it quickly drains him. Nothing susanoo has is fast enough to hit Minato and FTG Barrier will teleport anything. If Minato teleports susanoo, Itachi will have to use up more chakra and inflict more pain upon himself to activate a new one.

This is but a quick summary on why Minato>Itachi.

I still expect more "genjutsu one-shots" claims after this.
+ rep man you just soloed the thread but these genjutsu one shot wankers are just too dumb to even accept this reason
 
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why would minato do this move when he knows itachi cant use S/T tech???
are you dumb???
he used this just so he could counter the obito's S/T tech
S/T has nothing to do with this, this is his original stance, he always fights like this cuz the only tech he has is FTG - means he always have to look at his oponents.....
 

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Counter this, how his sensing ''abilities'' would help him here.........


Imma post my quote

No one can feel or sense the FTG marking or Minato's chakra[when he utilizes it for FTG] because of what we've seen U_U

Alive Minato is above Alive Itachi with Med Diff
KCM Edo Minato as one member said "Murder-Stomps" Edo Itachi

People who say how can Minato seal him need to slap themselves U_U

Also if anyone's gonna argue then be prepared. Imma drop how Alive Minato up until 560 beats the Final Itachi, getting past the Susanoo is included as well! With Current FTG haxx and non-KCM feats he goes even above U_U




Minato wins this,he has all the answers to Itachi's attacks and can come out as the victor if the two of them were to face each other in ideal conditions.

Read the following

Minato vs Sharingan Itachi :

Minato can beat Sharingan Itachi.

Minato has more speed,raw strength,chakra, powerful summons, seals.

Further he did beat Sharingan Tobi [MS Obito].


Minato vs Amaterasu :

A Few thing from wiki :
A using his Lightning Release Armour enhanced Body Flicker Technique avoided a short-range Amaterasu launched at him by Sasuke in an instant.

The only thing that the flames have failed to burn into or through is Gaara's chakra-infused sand. However, the flames burn fairly slowly, sometimes allowing anyone struck by Amaterasu an opportunity to remove whatever clothing or body parts have been caught ablaze. Nagato was able to deflect the flames from his body using Shinra Tensei. Use of the technique also puts a great deal of strain on the user, usually causing their eyes to bleed.

Minato dodged A's FULL speed the picture is in the Susanoo section below.
We've seen that A who wasn't even using his full speed dodged Sasuke's Amaterasu [Which according to Shee was better than Itachi's] at very close range. So Minato can do the same with more ease.

So even if Minato gets hit by Amaterasu he being the fastest of them all and thanks to s/t can save himself by teleporting himself back to his safe house. He did this when Tobi had bombed new-born Naruto.

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Plus Itachi can't use Amaterasu very often it affects him badly because he lacks the Eternal

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One more thing Jiraya sealed Amaterasu. So its safe to assume that Minato being the sealing master he is can do the same with more ease.

Minato vs Tsukuyomi :

Tsukuyomi requires eye contact to be performed. Its a short Ranged Genjutsu and to my knowledge the root knew about it and It hasn't killed a single soul.

Guy was confident to go up against Itachi w/out Eye contact a Jounin os his calibre can fight w/pot eye contact. Further its common knowledge that when fighting a Sharingan user avoid eye contact and that can be done.

For Itachi to trap Minato in tsukuyomi Minato need to look directly into hie eyes and that to at a cllose range which Minato will never do.

In fact Itachi can't afford to keep Minato at a close range because Minato is bad close range match up.

I mean look at all his fights all he does is to get close to the opponent, All those fodders, Tobi even A the raikage...all those pictures are posted below.

Minato vs Susanoo :

Minato can get past Itachi's complete Susanoo -

Here are some photos that shows that Minato can teleport in a radius of few meters around the FTG Kunai

Look at the distance

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Appearing directly above Tobi

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Marked Tobi's Back but attacked from the front

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Teleporting himself to the Kunai

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This is the width of Itachi's Complete Susanoo
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From the above data its pretty clear than minato can get past the susanoo via FTG Kunai i.e. Teleporting Inside of it.

Further once Minato's done that Itachi's end is fixed because his body is under enormous amount of pain He won't be able to defend himself.

There are other ways as well such as marking the ground or stones etc.
Minato can attack the susanoo itself :
Here we can see that Danzo used his Summon against Sasuke's Offensive, long Ranged Complete Susanoo

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And it reduced the Susanoo to the incomplete state, the only reason it failed becasue Fire worked against the wind.

In Minato and Itachi's case Minato can use this on Itachi's Defensive Susanoo

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Don't forget Gamabunata has water style that has advantage against Fire style.

Also this is the same summon that went up against Strong Rinnegan summons held its own against a tailed beast Shukaku and restrained a complete Kurama

Plus Minato can use this as well

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The three most powerful toads :

Also before saying BS like Itachi can control them via genjutsu Consider Itachi's state and the Chakra being drained from his body [used for maintaining MS and Susanoo]. He can't do shit against them. He is not Nagato!

In fact now that I think about it Itachi cant put up a descent fight if he has to go through all these summmons.

This could also be the thing why Jiraya was so confident when we was up against Itachi and Kisame

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I mean yeah Itachi never intended to fight but I have 1 question, Has Jiraya ever underestimated his opponent or boasted that He would kill someone who's power would be greater than his ?

Don't you remember what he did before going up against Pain?, He summoned Gerotora because Pain was the only opponent Jiraya wasn't sure about.

One more thing before posting the pic that show Itachi blocking the Rinnegan view with shuriken, The Rinnegan summons don't think for themself they just do what the Rinnegan user wishes that's why they just charge at the opponent w/out thinking or w/out any strategy.

Minato avoiding Direct eye-contacnt against Tobi :

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I honestly didn't spend the time to read all of that, because I already agree with you.

I will however like to mention another possible strategy.

Minato has the space time barrier, allowing him to transport any projectile wherever he wants. This is frankly a secret OP jutsu. Just think. He could have Gama shoot a water cannonball and then warp it INTO Itachi's Susanoo. That should be entirely within the realm of possibility. Similarly, Minato could also warp one of his kunai into Susanoo, allowing him to teleport into it.

I just wanted to add another possible strategy to Minato's arsenal.

Edit: Also a possible argument to those of you saying that he would look into Itachi's eyes because he did against Tobi, a possible explanation is that Minato, knowing that Tobi was already using a genjutsu to control the fox, would be unable to use it on Minato at the same time. So Minato, understanding that he was not threatened by genjutsu, freely looked into Tobi's eyes.
Also check this thread

Edit :

Kishimoto has already answered in his fanbook that anyone with toad contract can summon Ma and Pa. If Minato does that U_U




 
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