[Theory] The Case Of Rikudou Sennin Being An Uzumaki [Full Version]
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great thread once again!!!!
I regret to say that i had a more elaborate response to how i(still) disagree, with the naka tablet, being the SOLE catalyst, when the 2 clans, did not even stay in contact, it would be silly, to leave the key to the release in the hands of your enemy(since uzmakis were allied with senju, and the senju were enemies of the uchiha)
I looked carefully at all the manga pages, to find some reference to oro saying the naka shrine is neccesary. But there was not any.
What i did find was this page
clearly you can see that the diologue goes like this
Suigetsu"heh...so you need a jutsu to open that door?
then oro who is on the right says:" There is nothing left of the UCHIHAS nakano shrine anymore....
Then sasuke who has been inside it before, says" Appearances doesnt matter, what is important is what is down below.
Now why would they go to the naka tablet, if it wasnt needed. The answer is, so sasuke can read the tablet further after learning what he wants from the hokages, and/or it is a safe place to talk to the kages without interuption, as only an uchiha can open the door, and the only uchiha alive, are many miles away.(so basically nobody is able to get in, and they would be undetected by patrols)
So i will present a other theory, as to why oro did not use the release before he he was defeated.
This theory is simply, oro was waiting for his body switch to be ready to use, before he used the release. My theory is that he planned to use the release(ie cutting his body) and then go into sasukes body. However the problem with this,is why didnt he get the mask earlier? The answer is because if he had a random mask around, sasuke may get suspicious, and attack him early(which sasuke did anyways)
So simply oro was ambushed before he could retreive the mask, and then use the release to take over sasukes body.
I simply cannot think thatthe tablet would bethe ONLY catalyst if there was one...also the mask is what i would think is the catalyst.
here you see there is no mention of the tablet in the steps needed to undo the rds.
and then here you see what oro refers to the naka shrine
"and now we go to the place where all the secrets lie"
do i really care if im right or wrong, no. I just find it kinda sketchy that the uzumaki would entrust a catalyst for the release of one of their strongest fuuinjutsu, that requires the user to give their life, to an enemy(uzu were allied with senju, who were enemies of the uchiha,) and since the tablet is reffered to as the uchihas tablet, i would think they had the tablet for a long time.
So again, great thread. I agree fully with all of your theories except the above, since there is a hole in it, that doesnt quite fit right.
I look forward to what new theories you think of
I regret to say that i had a more elaborate response to how i(still) disagree, with the naka tablet, being the SOLE catalyst, when the 2 clans, did not even stay in contact, it would be silly, to leave the key to the release in the hands of your enemy(since uzmakis were allied with senju, and the senju were enemies of the uchiha)
I looked carefully at all the manga pages, to find some reference to oro saying the naka shrine is neccesary. But there was not any.
What i did find was this page
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clearly you can see that the diologue goes like this
Suigetsu"heh...so you need a jutsu to open that door?
then oro who is on the right says:" There is nothing left of the UCHIHAS nakano shrine anymore....
Then sasuke who has been inside it before, says" Appearances doesnt matter, what is important is what is down below.
Now why would they go to the naka tablet, if it wasnt needed. The answer is, so sasuke can read the tablet further after learning what he wants from the hokages, and/or it is a safe place to talk to the kages without interuption, as only an uchiha can open the door, and the only uchiha alive, are many miles away.(so basically nobody is able to get in, and they would be undetected by patrols)
So i will present a other theory, as to why oro did not use the release before he he was defeated.
This theory is simply, oro was waiting for his body switch to be ready to use, before he used the release. My theory is that he planned to use the release(ie cutting his body) and then go into sasukes body. However the problem with this,is why didnt he get the mask earlier? The answer is because if he had a random mask around, sasuke may get suspicious, and attack him early(which sasuke did anyways)
So simply oro was ambushed before he could retreive the mask, and then use the release to take over sasukes body.
I simply cannot think thatthe tablet would bethe ONLY catalyst if there was one...also the mask is what i would think is the catalyst.
here you see there is no mention of the tablet in the steps needed to undo the rds.
You must be registered for see images
and then here you see what oro refers to the naka shrine
"and now we go to the place where all the secrets lie"
You must be registered for see images
do i really care if im right or wrong, no. I just find it kinda sketchy that the uzumaki would entrust a catalyst for the release of one of their strongest fuuinjutsu, that requires the user to give their life, to an enemy(uzu were allied with senju, who were enemies of the uchiha,) and since the tablet is reffered to as the uchihas tablet, i would think they had the tablet for a long time.
So again, great thread. I agree fully with all of your theories except the above, since there is a hole in it, that doesnt quite fit right.
I look forward to what new theories you think of
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Wow, just wow...
Very nicely put together!
You knew I already agreed to it.
Just this:
Since the Senju Ancestor and the Uzumakis share their common beliefs of goodness and peace, they remained as allies throughout the centuries, while the Uzumaki's other branch relative: The Uchihas believed in the antithesis of love and peace which is war and hatred, they were still related by blood, but not by beliefs: hence they claim only the Senjus as their common relatives and not the Uchihas. Since warring clans already existed prior to the founding of Shinobi villages, it's possible that the Sage also belonged to a clan, a clan that specializes in sealing jutsus: The Uzumaki Clan.
Proven to be otherwise by Hashi and Tobirama. Their love is stronger, yet can be corrupted.
And I do think this is pretty much how it went down. The brother's war became the Shinobi World's curse. That has been the root of some stories since the dawn of man.
Kain and Abel, Ismael and Isaac, et cetera...
And for a moment I heard the Imperial March from Star Wars, reading about the 2nd Shinobi WW, on the destruction of the Eddy village by a dark lord, controlling from the shadows!
Rep... of course!
And my gratitude!
Very nicely put together!
You knew I already agreed to it.
Just this:
Since the Senju Ancestor and the Uzumakis share their common beliefs of goodness and peace, they remained as allies throughout the centuries, while the Uzumaki's other branch relative: The Uchihas believed in the antithesis of love and peace which is war and hatred, they were still related by blood, but not by beliefs: hence they claim only the Senjus as their common relatives and not the Uchihas. Since warring clans already existed prior to the founding of Shinobi villages, it's possible that the Sage also belonged to a clan, a clan that specializes in sealing jutsus: The Uzumaki Clan.
Proven to be otherwise by Hashi and Tobirama. Their love is stronger, yet can be corrupted.
And I do think this is pretty much how it went down. The brother's war became the Shinobi World's curse. That has been the root of some stories since the dawn of man.
Kain and Abel, Ismael and Isaac, et cetera...
And for a moment I heard the Imperial March from Star Wars, reading about the 2nd Shinobi WW, on the destruction of the Eddy village by a dark lord, controlling from the shadows!
Rep... of course!
And my gratitude!
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Honord Sage
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Great pice of Detective work,Rep to you sir and keep up the great work. The thing I would add to your Brilliant work is this, That the Uchiha Tablet and the SO6P war Tools were taken away from the Uzumaki at some point and time,Like the Tablets by the Uchiha by either the Elder Son after the Brothers separated or during one of the many battles the Uchiha and Senju had over the Centuries. The Sages Tools witch the Gold and Silver Brothers had must have ben taken in the last Great Ninja war that destroyed the Uzumaki Village as spoils of war. Again thank You very much. We find ourselves at a rod now that at end of it the signs says Uzumaki.
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new sage of 6 paths
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Ama explain using two halves of bread!
Two halves where originally one(senju and uchiha where originally one in rikoudu)
Then the bread split into two (senju and Uchiha)
And the case of rikoudu possesing Rinnegan,its Unique to him because he houses the juubi afterall!
Honord Sage
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Some people will never be convince even if when Kishi makes it absolutely clear that The SO6P was An Uzumaki. Hard to convince people when their hole ideas have ben proven wrong because they build their world on false assumptions.
Woah that took 20 minutes or so to read it all.....I m speechless...I had 1% doubt on the theory of so6p being an uzumaki and now its zero...Awesome work i see u have added more points to ur original discrete theories keep it up...
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Might I add that kushina has the same ability synonymous with gedo(outer realm)
And their abilities both serve the same purpose.....Incapacitating bijuus....
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