The Captain commander Persona/Shunsui's change

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Imagine if Shinji didn't explain his damn shikai to Aizen and just pulled his mask out and went for it. Not saying Shinji would've won but could've atleast wounded Aizen enough to make it easier for Ichigo or so.

Don't kno if you remember but aizen has the hogyoku in him so he would have healed up like when ichigo attacked him with getsuga tensho...but yea shinji could have cut off his head with the first attack but that's not how things going to go.
 

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This. I think Shunsui's always had that serious side to him. He's not as giddy as someone like Kisuke but he's just really calm and doesn't like fighting. Plus he's always had that thing for women. He was definitely the right decision, Unohana seems quiet and fairly unbalanced (almost schizophrenic if you want to go that far), and Ukitake is too frail when you need someone on the front lines.

The 'serious side' is a recurring thing among the senior captains, they're all relaxed people but they fight dirty and they don't play fair. Shunsui attacks people mid-conversation, Ukitake doesn't even tell Starrk his shikai and lets him figure it out for himself, and Unohana randomly pulls out blades to stab Zaraki during their battle. But looking at the other captains, someone like Ichigo will hold back for a bit and try to find out someone's emotions through striking swords with them, Rose tries to make battles artistic, and the rest of them give a 10 minute speech on how their Bankai works before they attack.

This is probably why Shunsui is one of my favourite characters, along with the other senior captains. Fight, get the job done and return to SS for a nice cup of tea.

When has byakuya ever gave a speech on how his bankai works befor attacking somebody? He would have been head captian but he was hurt to bad #TEAMBYAKUYA..an ukitake is not frail at all so what you mean? His sickness don't hold him back
 

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When has byakuya ever gave a speech on how his bankai works befor attacking somebody? He would have been head captian but he was hurt to bad #TEAMBYAKUYA..an ukitake is not frail at all so what you mean? His sickness don't hold him back

Woah I love Byakuya too man dw i've got nothing against him, although I don't think he's head captain material, he just doesn't seem like a leader to me. It is a recurring thing in Bleach that Ukitake's sickness prevents him from fighting all out at full strength for long periods of time. He held his own well against Starrk but there were intervals during the fight where Shunsui checked on his health.
 

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Woah I love Byakuya too man dw i've got nothing against him, although I don't think he's head captain material, he just doesn't seem like a leader to me. It is a recurring thing in Bleach that Ukitake's sickness prevents him from fighting all out at full strength for long periods of time. He held his own well against Starrk but there were intervals during the fight where Shunsui checked on his health.

How does kyoraku look like a leader an not byakuya, byakuya was kinda like Yamamoto they wer both very serious an they never laugh were as kyoraku seems laid back an lazy
 

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How does kyoraku look like a leader an not byakuya, byakuya was kinda like Yamamoto they wer both very serious an they never laugh were as kyoraku seems laid back an lazy

Sorry I just joined because I thought this was very interesting topic :)

But Shunsui has shown a few times that he is not laid back and lazy especially during fights his outlook is that he just wants to finish the fight quickly because there would be less collateral damage and he will go for the kill every time. His Character is so interesting and as you can see in the most recent chapters he means business and is not slacking about at all, I have a theory that the reason he has a dual sword is that he has a kinda dual personality, Lazy one minute then stabbing you through the back the next.

He is definitely gonna be an awesome CC
 

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Sorry I just joined because I thought this was very interesting topic :)

But Shunsui has shown a few times that he is not laid back and lazy especially during fights his outlook is that he just wants to finish the fight quickly because there would be less collateral damage and he will go for the kill every time. His Character is so interesting and as you can see in the most recent chapters he means business and is not slacking about at all, I have a theory that the reason he has a dual sword is that he has a kinda dual personality, Lazy one minute then stabbing you through the back the next.

He is definitely gonna be an awesome CC

Shunsui > Byakuya as a CC it's a 100% there's no reason to argue about it. I like Byakuya but he's still lower rank than Shunsui, Ukitake and Unohana.

As for his dual Zanpaktou's what was there? Childs game and lazy spin? And there must be very interesting additional BANKAI what Ukitake asked Shunui not to reveal... simply saying '' other may see it'' .. interesting why :D? ?
 

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Shunsui > Byakuya as a CC it's a 100% there's no reason to argue about it. I like Byakuya but he's still lower rank than Shunsui, Ukitake and Unohana.

As for his dual Zanpaktou's what was there? Childs game and lazy spin? And there must be very interesting additional BANKAI what Ukitake asked Shunui not to reveal... simply saying '' other may see it'' .. interesting why :D? ?

Well the reason I said that the dual Zan represents duality is because the zanpakutou's abilities are based on the shinigamis personality which is why I think he can switch between personalities so easily.
 

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It's about presence as well, that sort of "I am the law" overwhelming aura that Yama had that gained so much respect from the other captains, as well as the wisdom that he has. When Yama came out onto the battlefield against the Quincy and motivated the captains, I just couldn't really see someone like Byakuya doing that. He doesn't have that look about him that inspires hope. He's very much the guy who fights for those close to him and for his pride. Don't get me wrong, It's that type of personality that makes him a good character, just not a good potential CC in my opinion. You might all laugh at me, but after the senior captains, another example of a potential CC (ONLY IF HE WAS MORE POWERFUL) would be Komamura, because of the way that he acts.
 

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It's about presence as well, that sort of "I am the law" overwhelming aura that Yama had that gained so much respect from the other captains, as well as the wisdom that he has. When Yama came out onto the battlefield against the Quincy and motivated the captains, I just couldn't really see someone like Byakuya doing that. He doesn't have that look about him that inspires hope. He's very much the guy who fights for those close to him and for his pride. Don't get me wrong, It's that type of personality that makes him a good character, just not a good potential CC in my opinion. You might all laugh at me, but after the senior captains, another example of a potential CC (ONLY IF HE WAS MORE POWERFUL) would be Komamura, because of the way that he acts.

but he's so week, I've never liked him for personal reasons...
 

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but he's so week, I've never liked him for personal reasons...

I agree, he's definitely not strong enough, but he has those personality traits that you would want from a CC.
 

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It's about presence as well, that sort of "I am the law" overwhelming aura that Yama had that gained so much respect from the other captains, as well as the wisdom that he has. When Yama came out onto the battlefield against the Quincy and motivated the captains, I just couldn't really see someone like Byakuya doing that. He doesn't have that look about him that inspires hope. He's very much the guy who fights for those close to him and for his pride. Don't get me wrong, It's that type of personality that makes him a good character, just not a good potential CC in my opinion. You might all laugh at me, but after the senior captains, another example of a potential CC (ONLY IF HE WAS MORE POWERFUL) would be Komamura, because of the way that he acts.

Sence when does kyoraku gives off the I am the law feeling? Byakuya gave off that feeling through the hole invasion of soul society arc thing. Like when he first came an took rukiya or when he stopped ganju,the squad 4 kid an ichigo from getting to rukiya even when he stopped renji from getting to rukiya and he was the first captian to go after gin in the filler arc stating that anyone who interferes with SS will be cut down he's all ways inforcing the laws of SS byakuya Is a walking law himself...the only reason Yamamoto had that respect is because he been around for ever an he was mean unlike kyoraku is...an byakuya does not only fight for thoes close to him he would fight for anybody if they need help:)
 

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Shunsui > Byakuya as a CC it's a 100% there's no reason to argue about it. I like Byakuya but he's still lower rank than Shunsui, Ukitake and Unohana.

As for his dual Zanpaktou's what was there? Childs game and lazy spin? And there must be very interesting additional BANKAI what Ukitake asked Shunui not to reveal... simply saying '' other may see it'' .. interesting why :D? ?

Lower rank? They wer captians how is he lower rank or did you mean he's younger.
 
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I agree, he's definitely not strong enough, but he has those personality traits that you would want from a CC.
Yeah in my opinion he's barely strong enough to be a captain :/
 

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Yeah in my opinion he's barely strong enough to be a captain :/

Hmm I wonder what makes komamaru seem so weak to y'all? Please tell me I must kno because both the times he was beatin he fought opponents that wer stronger than stark the number one espada..he got beat by aizen an a super hollowfide tosen so yea every other captian would have lost besides Yamamoto an Mabey unohana..so tell me what makes y'all think he is weak.
 

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I think Hitsugaya will eventually become the CC. He's like Yamamoto in training, elemental reiatsu, elemental zanpakuto, very intelligent and fast learner.
 

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Shunsui has always had this side of him, I think the best example of it was just after he beats Starkk and Love says he shouldn't butt in on other people's business.


 

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I think Hitsugaya will eventually become the CC. He's like Yamamoto in training, elemental reiatsu, elemental zanpakuto, very intelligent and fast learner.

His abilities have absolutely nothing to do with it. But in about 1000 years, sure, he definitely has what it takes. Kyoraku said that Hitsugaya would become stronger than him in just 100 years. He'll be a monster when he grows up.

People underrate Hitsugaya greatly. He is a Shinigami prodigy. People fail to give him credit for the fact that he's only like 50-100 years old and he's already a Captain...
 

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Sence when does kyoraku gives off the I am the law feeling? Byakuya gave off that feeling through the hole invasion of soul society arc thing. Like when he first came an took rukiya or when he stopped ganju,the squad 4 kid an ichigo from getting to rukiya even when he stopped renji from getting to rukiya and he was the first captian to go after gin in the filler arc stating that anyone who interferes with SS will be cut down he's all ways inforcing the laws of SS byakuya Is a walking law himself...the only reason Yamamoto had that respect is because he been around for ever an he was mean unlike kyoraku is...an byakuya does not only fight for thoes close to him he would fight for anybody if they need help:)

Well no offense because you are a byakuya fan I like him as well but he seems a bit too arrogant too me especially towards his enemies treating them as if they arent worth his time, but for a good reason though he is part of the five Noble clans. But you have to remember that Shunsui's family is also a high ranking noble family (but not part of the 5 Great Noble Houses), and he is the second son according to bleach databooks, but he is always cautious of his enemies and never underestimates them, which is a very good quality of a CC.
 
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Lower rank? They wer captians how is he lower rank or did you mean he's younger.

Take it this way - they we're Captains before Byakuya and obviously in the show like this.... it means something.

And for Shunsui to request Unohana to train Zaraki jsut proves that he knows more what's going on in SS than Byakuya does. Im 99.9% sure that byakuya knows nothing about it.
 

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I always believed he acted like this he was good enough to lead a squad of course he had to be a boss he didn't change he simply has more power and needs to act on it more an not joke around
 
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