The byakugan will have its own susanoo

[Reviewing Logic]

generic no name tag ninja that came from who knows were

likely fodder orochimaru goons that were taken prisoner at from their small villages

seeing the lack of ninjitsu after effects on that battlefield means that they only used their swords like average sword men


Orochimaru told them that they could have their freedom if they defeated Sasuke

Sasuke not actually killing them likely means that Orochimaru uses them as lab rats

 

[unknownvillain1254]

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Unfortunately, the Databook says nothing about Chakra but it says "compressing air = high-speed palm attack". Seems who wrote the Wikia article kind of created this misconception/lack of definition on what is exactly air palm.

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This technique is a variation of the Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm where either two Gentle Fist users,[2] or a single person using both hands,[3] send a powerful wave of chakra from either palm simultaneously with great force towards an opponent.

 

[Jiren]

Hyuuga stans want to bbe uchiha but you lack hatred

 

[Lyke]

Wat teh f...

 

[LustyLover]

Yet Mukai is dealing against both Uchiha prodigies and at that time they already reached their prime when 11-12 years and 15-16 years old fully experienced w/o MS which is the very same incidence that Itachi wiped out the entire Uchiha clan against mostly fully grown adults.

Shisui and Itachi still gets negged hard though. Itachi was on the floor who's incapable of doing anything while Shisui was being held and right before he get chocked to death he activate MS and cast koto genjutsu on him.
Even Mukai able to break out genjutsu by slashing himself and result death point being 3t uchiha were pushed back to the corner to the very brink of their death right before they pulled super hax MS to pull it off.

Uh, no. Itachi wasn't in his prime by a long shot as he hadn't even awakened his MS and most of his abilities.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

Uh, no. Itachi wasn't in his prime by a long shot as he hadn't even awakened his MS and most of his abilities.

Even then, the current Itachi with 3T is more or less the same as back then. Itachi only gotten stronger because he learn how to awaken the MS and fully utilize where Itachi continue to rely on Hax power to completely oversimplify the battles. By the time Itachi fought Mukai, he already reached his peak of experience with his proficient in 3T.

You also have to keep in mind that Mukai is a half breed Hyuga and he can only use 8-16 palm. This means Mukai is restricted as well because he could not use the full potential of the hyuga bloodline and his byakugan is weaker than EVEN Branch Family.

So basically this whole age factor is flawed because this dude hyuga technique is nerf as hell.

 

[LustyLover]

Even then, the current Itachi with 3T is more or less the same as back then. Itachi only gotten stronger because he learn how to awaken the MS and fully utilize where Itachi continue to rely on Hax power to completely oversimplify the battles. By the time Itachi fought Mukai, he already reached his peak of experience with his proficient in 3T.

You also have to keep in mind that Mukai is a half breed Hyuga and he can only use 8-16 palm. This means Mukai is restricted as well because he could not use the full potential of the hyuga bloodline and his byakugan is weaker than EVEN Branch Family.

So basically this whole age factor is flawed because this dude hyuga technique is nerf as hell.

No, obviously current 3T Itachi is going to be superior as he has way more feats. And lol @ 11 year old Itachi having peak experience. Clearly that's not true.

Plus, this whole thing is questionable since we don't even know if it's canon or not.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

No, obviously current 3T Itachi is going to be superior as he has way more feats. And lol @ 11 year old Itachi having peak experience. Clearly that's not true.

Plus, this whole thing is questionable since we don't even know if it's canon or not.

No he doesn't, he only has some new couple ninjutsu and 3T genjutsu feats but even then it won't change anything. Mukai was able to split Great Fireball jutsu apart with the power of his insight. Itachi used genjutsu on him and failed and it only took MS Kotoamatsukami to stop him. Like I said, Itachi has way more feats when he used to activate MS.

It is still worth arguing because Kishimoto was involve with the New Era Project which consist of Naruto the Last movie and Boruto Movie as well as Hiden novel and Itachi shiden. So even if Kishi did not script some of these, he got himself involve with these projects and gives approval.
So No matter how questionable it is, to kishi eyes it's canon.

 

[KidGamer65]

No he doesn't, he only has some new couple ninjutsu and 3T genjutsu feats but even then it won't change anything. Mukai was able to split Great Fireball jutsu apart with the power of his insight. Itachi used genjutsu on him and failed and it only took MS Kotoamatsukami to stop him. Like I said, Itachi has way more feats when he used to activate MS.

It is still worth arguing because Kishimoto was involve with the New Era Project which consist of Naruto the Last movie and Boruto Movie as well as Hiden novel and Itachi shiden. So even if Kishi did not script it, he got himself involve with these projects and gives approval.
So No matter how questionable it is, to kishi eyes it's canon.

:lol What? An 11 yr version of Itachi isn't going to have even close to the same physical capabilities as him. That's a major part of Itachi's power outside of Mangekyo. Not to mention his techniques will all be weaker. You Hyuga fans sure are desperate.

-Making novels canon.
-Using a grown man beating 11 yr old Itachi and not an adult Itachi as evidence of the Byakugan's superiority. :lol

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

:lol What? An 11 yr version of Itachi isn't going to have even close to the same physical capabilities as him. That's a major part of Itachi's power outside of Mangekyo. Not to mention his techniques will all be weaker. You Hyuga fans sure are desperate.

-Making novels canon.
-Using a grown man beating 11 yr old Itachi and not an adult Itachi as evidence of the Byakugan's superiority. :lol

You know you left out the fact that he's not only dealing with an 11yrs old. Shisui was with him and he was much older than Itachi. So when you combined the two to deal against a half breed Hyuga with restricted technique, they still were no match.
This means that Both Itachi and Shisue tag team that excel in combat still makes the equal amounts of capacity as Adult Itachi physical capabilities.

Taijutsu
Mukai was hailed as a taijutsu expert appearing to use a variation of Gentle Fist. His skill in taijutsu was exceptional, and Mukai was capable of defeating twenty Sunagakure shinobi — all armed — without so much as a scratch, using nothing but taijutsu and his Byakugan. Itachi and Shisui, both shinobi known for their physical prowess, were unable to defeat Mukai in taijutsu and were nearly defeated in return despite them working together. His proficiency in the art of the Gentle Fist allowed Mukai to used a halved version of the Eight Trigrams Thirty-Two Palms — the Eight Trigrams Sixteen Palms.

It doesn't matter how good your physical capabilities are, they can't beat the hyuga taijutsu specialist as someone skilled as Mukai or Neji.
- I am just pointing out.

 

[KidGamer65]

You know you left out the fact that he's not only dealing with an 11yrs old. Shisui was with him and he was much older than Itachi. So when you combined the two to deal against a half breed Hyuga with restricted technique, they still were no match.
This means that Both Itachi and Shisue tag team that excel in combat still makes the equal amounts of capacity as Adult Itachi physical capabilities.



- I am just pointing out.

No, it doesn't, because you do not know how powerful Shisui was at that time to claim that beating these 2 is like beating an adult 3-T Itachi. Why do people throw around the "half breed" thing like it's an excuse? Physical capabilities are a large part of your power when your main fighting style is Taijutsu based, and all this means is that Mukai's skills combined w/ Gentle Fist surpassed what Itachi and Shisui were capable of at the time.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

No, it doesn't, because you do not know how powerful Shisui was at that time to claim that beating these 2 is like beating an adult 3-T Itachi. Why do people throw around the "half breed" thing like it's an excuse? Physical capabilities are a large part of your power when your main fighting style is Taijutsu based, and all this means is that Mukai's skills combined w/ Gentle Fist surpassed what Itachi and Shisui were capable of at the time.

The novel clearly states that Both of them are known for their physical prowess and Shisui is a prodigy. There's a small time gap between the fight against Mukai and the Uchiha clan massacre so really it can be easily deduced that the measure of his combat is great ( ofc not as great as adult Itachi 3T. ) especially knowing his skills is versatile at teleportation.

Because Mukai would excel far greater in his physical capabilities if he were to be full blooded hyuga. We know a byakugan can be trained and be flexed out due to training however both of his visual and physical capabilities are much more restricted than even the Branch family.

 

[DietyOfWind]

guys i think your all missing the point byakugan didnt have the development time it needed to show how trully good of an eye technique it was at the time its getting more coverage in boruto not to mention boruto's lineage and powers are being set up as comparable to a gods / priest because the byakugan is the opposite of the sharringan and will have its own upgrade paths as well. what would be the point other wise, why bother giving boruto that awesome lineage if its not gonna get used.

I think the best example of what we can expect from the chakra forms is closer to what shion used, she technically had that first chakra form before it was a main story thing in that movie also byakugan simply isnt weak because i doubt the final bad guy/guys wouldnt have been given it for no reason so it may very well get its own avatar or power creep. its not for us to complain about its for us to watch/read for our own enjoyment if your not getting any enjoyment then just dont follow the series.

Don't go around bashing fans of huggyas so hard when theres is about to actually be more development to be somewhat on par. Its only fair after all since you had your favorite clans full development time but the huggyas got put onto a shelf untill later dates after the main series ended to be given more coverage, coverage the writer had mostlikely intended to put into the main series but apparently he rushed himself to finish the main project to get shoen jump off his back first. My main point is the huggyas were never meant to be considdered as weak as they have been portrayed plus they have whole gaps of time from hamura living on the moon story point that we dont know everything about. I feel this element is really important since it would cover probably the fullest development about the byakugan had it had more screen time to show it all and no i dont think the movie was enough time to cover genereations and generations of hamura and fam living on the moon in its entirety.