The biggest nerf in the series

[DeadManWonderLand]

Minato was the biggest nerf in the series neg diff

idc what anyone says minato was the original strongest ninja hashi or saru

He was never nerfed.

His ftg saved everyone in the barrier and he put obito down as soon as he saw him.Not to mention the ftg was very critical to sasuke and naruto in there fight against Jubbito.

His ftg only became useless persay when madara came to into the fray.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Wrong. Aside from Hiruzen, Obito is the biggest nerf, not only did his physiological attacks were nerfed but also his plot armor was nerfed and plot sword, he could have solo'd Naruto, Gai, Kakashi and Bee if it weren't for plot.

yeah,ugh,,,,no.


His mind was the very reason he could not become a true juubi jin.
He barely contained the rinngan as said by himself and if things got to the point they did with madara gai would of killed him with the evening elephant or night guy.


He wasn't stronger then madara and madara was complete.Who could actually use the rinngan.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

I can't think of one legit nerf that is not connected to plot device.

I would of said kabuto but,it was more of a plot device not a nerf that did him in.

 

[Kiro1]

yeah,ugh,,,,no.


His mind was the very reason he could not become a true juubi jin.
He barely contained the rinngan as said by himself and if things got to the point they did with madara gai would of killed him with the evening elephant or night guy.


He wasn't stronger then madara and madara was complete.Who could actually use the rinngan.

Like I said, it was all plot.

1) He wasn't even a complete juubi jin so of course
2) That wasn't even his own Rinnegan but he is powerful enough to even manage even one, anyone else would be dead.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

It was because the toneri thing in her body.

OT: Naruto not summing gamabunta in VOTE1 against sasuke
shukaku not using bijuu dama, or garaa not entering the same state as 4 tails naruto in his fight against naruto
Raikage's chakra avatar not tanking amatarsu(amatarsu would burn through it, but the progress should be slower)

and finally, nagato not going there with his real body which contained all the paths together. He would've captured the kyuubi easily and raped konoha while he's at it.

Naruto wasn't going to use gama to settle a personal dispute.
Besides that is not a nerf that is plot device.
Shukaku not using a tailed beast bomb is sketchy.

Why would gaara turn into the V4 form ?

Shukakau was in control.

naruto only went through those states because he was resisting.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Kakashi losing dms.

 

[FoxesInWonderland]

He lost a major amount of chakra but,all his abilities are still there.

If he ever truly needs to gain that much power the tailed beast can easily regroup.

Personally,all that power would of made anyone else obsolete.
What stories could of been told if naruto is untouchable ?

It's kinda stupid though lol. In the last and in boruto the movie he didn't use that power so its kind of like he was allowing all that chaos to happen especially in the boruto movie. Point is Kishi nerfed him heavy. His rsm looks way better than his bsm anyway so idk why he made him use the downgraded form

 

[KesOnFire]

Yup Kakashi losing dms I don't see why he couldn't keep it. lol

Then maybe he could of stopped that meteor Sasuke took out in The Last instead of jsut watching.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Like I said, it was all plot.

1) He wasn't even a complete juubi jin so of course
2) That wasn't even his own Rinnegan but he is powerful enough to even manage even one, anyone else would be dead.

Nagato used two

Plot or not he still would of loss to guy.

Are you saying obito should of been able to handle more rinnegan ?
Are you saying the emotionally eratic obito should of been stable ?

You are just trying to rewrite the story not explaining nerfs.

A nerf in the context you and everyone here is talking about it when someone who has a power ready at their disposal and doesn't use simply just because.

And in most cases there was a reason why things could not go down the way people are claiming.

Madara who was a perfect juubi host with a rinngen even said it was just chance he did not die due to night guy.

Obito would of not fared any better only worse.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Well she is fodder.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Yup Kakashi losing dms I don't see why he couldn't keep it. lol

Then maybe he could of stopped that meteor Sasuke took out in The Last instead of jsut watching.

Obito transferred himself with kamui.

I can only imagine after linking his ability with kaguya and watching her do it helped him expand on his own power.

He took it to the higest level.
Crossing other dimensions.

He anchored himself in kakashi.
He didn't give kakashi his eyes.

He can't.He was dead.

And edo can bring a spirit back with its abilities then it obito should be able to retain his abilities when his soul crossed.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

It's kinda stupid though lol. In the last and in boruto the movie he didn't use that power so its kind of like he was allowing all that chaos to happen especially in the boruto movie. Point is Kishi nerfed him heavy. His rsm looks way better than his bsm anyway so idk why he made him use the downgraded form

I get that part.
It does suspend belief when you know a simple gathering can change it all.
However,that movie started sucking as soon as the "villain" got there.

His appearance was a knock of kidomarou and his abilities never made sense or explained.
Din't even fit in with what we knew about the rinnegan
His friend was stupid with stupid unexplained powers.

Lets forget the last half lol


The only thing i can come up with thuogh is that the fight was naruto's not the tailed beasts fight.

Maybe he didn't want to include them for personal reasons.
They been through enough already as it was.