Ok, so a couple of shuriken are going to beat Kabuto right? Nahh.. But seriously, if Itachi's eyes are forced to be closed, then he can't reverse the sound genjutsu on Kabuto without his eyes.
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Since you say Itachi could use a smoke screen to help him execute a shunshin and Totsuka combo, Kabuto can just do this. He can disperse his chakra into 6 different entities and probably even more. Which gives Itachi less than a 17% chance of hitting that combo under a smoke screen.
of course 2 shuriken cant defeat kabuto... that wasnt the point of the scan i presented:|
If kabuto disperses his self among entities he would fall victim to a wide scale amaterasu and since he will be in a weaker state ( a bunch of entities ) the recovery process may presume to take longer.
I was trying to say his perception of his surroundings are truly great and that being hard its rare for itachi to get by surprise attack of some sort.
of course 2 shuriken cant defeat kabuto... that wasnt the point of the scan i presented:|
If kabuto disperses his self among entities he would fall victim to a wide scale amaterasu and since he will be in a weaker state ( a bunch of entities ) the recovery process may presume to take longer.
I was trying to say his perception of his surroundings are truly great and that being hard its rare for itachi to get by surprise attack of some sort.
Body Shedding, Oral Rebirth, Mole Jutsu, Earth Shore. All counters to a wide scale Amaterasu. Karin's healing prowess combined with Jugo's ability to gather infinite nature chakra makes his high speed regeneration nearly infinite.
I may have exaggerated that. Uzumaki DNA raises his chakra levels a lot. So I should have just said that he can regenerate at high speeds for a very long time. Kabuto also has the ability to absorb chakra, which prolongs his regeneration even further.
Can't the Yata mirror block sound Genjutsu? The Manga illustrated that not the melody itself affect the opponent once it is heard but specific sound waves that need to reach ones ear. Pain noticed the usage of the frog Genjutsu before but was affected when these waves reached their ears. Sound Genjutsu was already countered by Temari's windstyle.
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Shikamaru noted that the windstyle deflected the sound.
So if this is the case, the Yata mirror, a spiritual shield that is said to mirror back any technique that hits it, should be able to keep away the sound. At least we have the databook stating the exact properties of the shield, just contradicting and saying the sound would pass the shield without a scan in return is out of the question I guess.
Can't the Yata mirror block sound Genjutsu? The Manga illustrated that not the melody itself affect the opponent once it is heard but specific sound waves that need to reach ones ear. Pain noticed the usage of the frog Genjutsu before but was affected when these waves reached their ears. Sound Genjutsu was already countered by Temari's windstyle.
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Shikamaru noted that the windstyle deflected the sound.
So if this is the case, the Yata mirror, a spiritual shield that is said to mirror back any technique that hits it, should be able to keep away the sound. At least we have the databook stating the exact properties of the shield, just contradicting and saying the sound would pass the shield without a scan in return is out of the question I guess.
Can't the Yata mirror block sound Genjutsu? The Manga illustrated that not the melody itself affect the opponent once it is heard but specific sound waves that need to reach ones ear. Pain noticed the usage of the frog Genjutsu before but was affected when these waves reached their ears. Sound Genjutsu was already countered by Temari's windstyle.
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Shikamaru noted that the windstyle deflected the sound.
So if this is the case, the Yata mirror, a spiritual shield that is said to mirror back any technique that hits it, should be able to keep away the sound. At least we have the databook stating the exact properties of the shield, just contradicting and saying the sound would pass the shield without a scan in return is out of the question I guess.
You do bring up a brilliant argument , Sound has to travel through a medium.. whether it be air, gas, water etc...
Sound is energy but does require matter to travel.. Considering that the databook outright says the Yata mirror also blooks material attacks ...and all the mediums sound travel through are matter related.. it is a plausible theory
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Itachi never had yata mirror up yet.. just ribcage, read my post above why it's plausible YATA MIRROR can defend against it
Remember sound cannot exist in a vacuum.. i.e a space empty of matter..
But it was not the Yata mirror. If the sound hits the mirror, the mirror changes its properties in accordance with the attack - as the databook states - to nullify the effect of the incoming attack. Well we can debate why Itachi didn't use the Yata shield; I guess because he was hiding from Kabuto and stood with the back to him, not watching what Kabuto is going to do.
But it was not the Yata mirror. If the sound hits the mirror, the mirror changes its properties in accordance with the attack - as the databook states - to nullify the effect of the incoming attack. Well we can debate why Itachi didn't use the Yata shield; I guess because he was hiding from Kabuto and stood with the back to him, not watching what Kabuto is going to do.
He didn't use yata that entire fight , Kishi must realize how op it is ,it would have bocked the majority of Kabuto's attacks.. and made the fight dull..
Your proposition holds weight because its stated that yata even block matter... and sound needs matter to travel...and we've seen it block the smoke etc from sasuke's exploding kunai
But it was not the Yata mirror. If the sound hits the mirror, the mirror changes its properties in accordance with the attack - as the databook states - to nullify the effect of the incoming attack. Well we can debate why Itachi didn't use the Yata shield; I guess because he was hiding from Kabuto and stood with the back to him, not watching what Kabuto is going to do.
Just like to say thanks to the people help support me and added some stuff that i missed like temari blocking sound genjutsu with her fan and the yata mirror can block sound genjutsu basically so itachi now has more feats to defeat dsm kabuto.
that's completely preposterous, what you are claiming is that the yata mirror will magically get rid off all the air by "changing its properties" based on hyperbole. The yata mirror is hyped to not be able to be destroyed by attacks, not magically transform into anything Itachi desires. By that logic, if Itachi was stuck at the bottom of the ocean Yata Mirror magically creates oxygen and get rid of the water.
that's completely preposterous, what you are claiming is that the yata mirror will magically get rid off all the air by "changing its properties" based on hyperbole. The yata mirror is hyped to not be able to be destroyed by attacks, not magically transform into anything Itachi desires. By that logic, if Itachi was stuck at the bottom of the ocean Yata Mirror magically creates oxygen and get rid of the water.
? You're arguing that yata doesn't have 5 elements imbued into it? Out of everything in the databook article, you think that was the argument?
Yata , unfortunately has already proven a few things , IN the manga.. It can change shape , and it can defend against material attacks..
Sasukes kunai exploded, leaving a bunch of flame and smoke.. non of which got past yata mirror..... at the very least, according to your argument.. the smoke, which traveled with the air, should have entered..but it didn't did it?
It has defended against physical and material attacks thus far in the manga.. as far as those things go, it is no longer hyperbole.. it is fact..
The databook states the items have no true form.... and it has confirmed that buy expanding and shrinking at well.. once again, no longer hyperbole, but fact...
And no one said the shield is going to magically get rid of the air.. it's not going to chakra infused air pass through..
And I love how you use the word magically.. as if the notion in itself is ludicrous.. when the items are described in the manga and databook as being magical and spiritual
if Itachi was stuck at the bottom of the ocean Yata Mirror magically creates oxygen and get rid of the water.
What? once again, who said the shield would get rid of the air? and why would it get rid of the water? If it can cover itachi fully.. if susanno can cover the user fully, either will protect them from the water for a limited time.. just like susanno or the shield would protect them from a suiton
For what ever reason, Allot of ppl on this site believes that itachi and sasuke could have been killed Kabuto if they wanted too. Umm no!
Lets look at the facts and the normal arsenal that Both ninjas already possess and what has been shown in the manga..
People who say "They could of amateratsu him anytime they wanted too"..
First off, Amaterasu isnt as instant as most ppl make it seem or want to believe! Every time that it has been shown in the manga Itachi And sasuke both have been shown to: 1. Close the eye FIRST, 2. Bleed from the eye second. This sequence of events is too long for any powerful shinobi let alone a super sensor fear!
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It takes awhile and happens after the eye bleeds, And gives off "pressure". Kabuto knows of this jutsu and the gap in which it takes to preform is too big.
He can and will sense the tech and prepare for a counter! Or...???
2. He could simply use the tech that sasuke used. Amaratsu doesnt burn fast (fact), so its plenty of time to use the tech (like sasuke did)
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As you can see it can be preformed fast anytime!
Here is manga FACT TO BACK MY CLAIMS UP!!!!
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With that being facts; Kabuto A. Is a super sensor B. He knows the tech takes awhile to hit C. He can simply shed his skin!
People who say genjutsu (NOT IZANAGI OR IZANAMI) Which means Tsukiyomi and other lower genjutsu..
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1. He fights with his eyes covered or closed!!! With that being said, if you cannot make eye contact you cannot hit the opponent with all regular Uchiha genjutsu techs!
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. Which is the reason why he says they have the ability to affect a ninja outside the 5 senses (directly)
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Hell this page alone is fact that they agree there old genjutsu they normaly use is not going to work! They literally admits this!!!
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For everyone that says susanoo can get the job done!..
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This could of did the job but he miscalculated..lol
2A. If Genjutsu and amaratsu (the 2 techs they use in susanoo) do not work the have to resort to physical attacks!
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As you can see are useless!! A sword to the head didnt do much but make him smile.lol
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Physical atks are useless period!
And for the dumb people who do not know how to read!!! LIGHTNING ATKS WILL NOT WORK BECAUSE he can turn from human to water and water to human!
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Not his boby is constantly water!
2B. He is a medic and a super healer!!!
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He recovers too fast to be worried about anything physical!!!
2C. He is too fast in the dodging department!!!
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A super duper fast susanoo arrow from point blank up and close a few meters away range couldnt hit kabuto!!!
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-__- You cant argue with this!!! And as you know speed has been proven to be effective against there eyes!
For everyone who says Itachi could seal him with the sword anytime he wanted too..
No!..
Like i said before! How is he going to hit him with that average speed sword???? Really??? And the FACT that it has to pierce not cut makes it that much harder!!!! Remember kabuto can turn into water or snakes instantly, with that said he could remove his abdomen out the way to make the sword go thru his body!
With all the facts i have listed There is know way outside EMS secret techs and IZAMAMI (maybe) that they could defeat him even if they wanted too!!!
So can everyone shut the hell up about that!
Counter the facts USING THE MANGA ONLY!!! Otherwise you are arguing just to hate on a cartoon character. This is not an uchiha hate thread btw, just an eye opener to the noobs! Im a big itachi fan, but i also care for other characters.
ANd because of plot no jutsu Kabuto will be defeated, not because they are better.
