The biggest Misconception on NB since 2012, itachi cant beat dsm kabuto

[ballerjordan]

I think Kabuto wins, he's so underrated

Itachi in edo form was spamming his susanoo, had that undying body and the near infinite chakra/stamina boost that his living counter part wouldn't have

Kabuto's Sage mode sensing could avoid all his Susanoo attacks, he can use Suigetsu's dna to avoid amaterasu, turn into 100 snakes and go underground or he can use oral rebirth

Kabuto would have hirugeki'd his susanoo away at the matches begining and then ran over and sliced him in half for real.

Alternatively, Tayuya's genjutsu GG.

aren't you forgetting that Kabuto is trying to capture Sasuke alive and turn Itahci back into his puppet as opposed to sealing him.....?

Kabuto was at the situational disadvantage...not to mention outnumbered (and Itachi is an Edo)

He was trying to capture sasuke alive and turn itachi back to his puppet

 

[Kαmi]

Interesting. No mention of;

> Mugen Onsa
> Senpō: Hakugeki

Did you really not mention these attacks from Kabuto OP? Cause these are two of Kabuto's deadliest moves, including Tayuya's genjutsu if you didn't mention that..

 

[Prince Charles]

Not going to talk this much about that fight since i thought everything was clear, but i would like to talk about this point:
Actually the one who saw nothing here is Itachi. If you read carefully what Kabuto says, he says it himself that he had no intention to attack Sasuke from the start, so Itachi protecting Sasuke there was useless since the attack was not even going in Sasuke's direction, which shows a flaw in his perception skills. Maybe Sasuke in the contrary knew that, reason why he didn't even try to protect himself U_U

lol? as usual bogard tries to downplay itachis reaction time feats

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we clearly see itachi reacting to the stones coming near them which makes your post invalid.

 

[ItachiStillSolos]

This thread is godly, too be expected from you U_U.

 

[OnPoint]

lol? one sided explain, i mentioned how itachi body flicker feint clones and hand seal speed would render most of kabutos attacks.

You're claiming to be clearing up a misconception but you're not looking at both sides of the coin. So yes, it was one sided.

Those two techniques proved the most troublesome in canon yet you seemed to almost brush them under the carpet. Bunshin feints won't protect him from sound waves, even though fights like this are purely situational.

 

[Bogard]

lol? as usual bogard tries to downplay itachis reaction time feats

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we clearly see itachi reacting to the stones coming near them which makes your post invalid.

You don't get it. I'm not saying Itachi lacked reaction(well he smh did, but not the point). I'm saying he lacked perception. His occular dojutsu reading skills were lacking here. It's what i'm talking about. He protected Sasuke for nothing since the attack wasn't even going in his direction like Kabuto claimed. It's your post which is invalid since you don't even seem to know what you're talking about

 

[Prince Charles]

Did you really not mention these attacks from Kabuto OP? Cause these are two of Kabuto's deadliest moves, including Tayuya's genjutsu if you didn't mention that..

I did mention white rage and what other jutsu are you referring too? the fact that itachi still managed to conjure up his sussano to protect sasuke its sufficient evidence enough to assume if one has enough will power they can brake free from the strain of white rage.

are you referring to his sound flute genjutsu?

 

[-immortal-]

since when is a thread serious and legit...SINCE Now...
awes0me points you set out there :bouncy:

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

umm well to see you joining sides with itachi really makes me sad U_U
but one thing i wanna say is if kabuto fights with the intent to kill i guess no one can stop him
(didnt include sage of six path)

 

[Prince Charles]

You don't get it. I'm not saying Itachi lacked reaction. I'm saying he lacked perception. His occular dojutsu reading skills were lacking here. It's what i'm talking about. He protected Sasuke for nothing since the attack wasn't even going in his direction like Kabuto claimed

your making no sense he wasnt lacking anything do you not understand the 2 pages? he simply presumed he was gong after sasuke which in the earlier pages in the battle kakbuto actually tried to go after sasuke during white rage and itachi explained it and called kabuto out on it. Itachi simply used a earlier situation which made him go to that certain result/outcome

 

[Prince Charles]

You're claiming to be clearing up a misconception but you're not looking at both sides of the coin. So yes, it was one sided.

Those two techniques proved the most troublesome in canon yet you seemed to almost brush them under the carpet. Bunshin feints won't protect him from sound waves, even though fights like this are purely situational.

Thats why he was still able to conjure up sussano during white rage right?

 

[Bogard]

your making no sense he wasnt lacking anything do you not understand the 2 pages? he simply presumed he was gong after sasuke which in the earlier pages in the battle kakbuto actually tried to go after sasuke during white rage and itachi explained it and called kabuto out on it. Itachi simply used a earlier situation which made him go to that certain result/outcome

Which shows he lacked perception since he failed to read Kabuto's intention, he failed to read Kabuto's move. Understand now?

 

[Made in Heaven]

Itachi would have died three times had it not been for his edo body....so Kabuto is better

 

[The Necromancer]

Truth be told, they both have the potential to defeat each other. In most scenarios, I say Kabuto takes it but I'd be lying if I said Itachi doesn't stand a chance defeating Kabuto. The both of them going all out against each other (neither went all out in their cave fight) would certainly make for a good fight, they're right next to each other in my top 10

I agree with this. Itachi wins 55% of the time in my opinion. Pretty impressive considering kabuto made himself an anti uchiha tank. Fighting in a cave was also a great advantage for kabuto, meaning a fight anywhere else would be more equalized.

 

[Kαmi]

I did mention white rage and what other jutsu are you referring too? the fact that itachi still managed to conjure up his sussano to protect sasuke its sufficient evidence enough to assume if one has enough will power they can brake free from the strain of white rage.

are you referring to his sound flute genjutsu?

Okay, I must have missed that part, I mostly skimmed through the thread since I don't have too much time to read it now. But you have a point, Itachi wa able to use his will power in that case.
And yes, in referring to the flute sound genjutsu, chains of fantasia(?)

 

[Prince Charles]

Which shows he lacked perception since he failed to read Kabuto's intention, he failed to read Kabuto's move. Understand now?

sigh.. he didnt lack perception, he simply went off of a earlier situation and decided to act out his best assumption, kabuto tried to go after sasuke earlier so to itachi there was nothing wrong with thinking he may try to pull the same stunt again, that one little mistake isnt hardly enough to discredit itachis perception abilities.

 

[Made in Heaven]

So does this debate include Kabuto's edo summons?

 

[King Of Crows]

So does this debate include Kabuto's edo summons?

No. This is Kabuto, alone.

 

[OnPoint]

Thats why he was still able to conjure up sussano during white rage right?

No doubt his Mangekyō-wielding, disease-ridden body was assisted by the Edo Tensei. Sasuke benefits from absolute health and an Eternal Mangekyō, and we saw how helpless he was once the technique was employed. Regardless, the Jutsu still left Itachi immobilized for a period of time.

I asked you about Mugen Onsa. You didn't even mention it. You know, the technique both Sasuke and Itachi were caught in. The one which forced the latter to seek external help.

 

[Prince Charles]

Itachi would have died three times had it not been for his edo body....so Kabuto is better

sigh.. and thats how i know you didnt read the thread, itachi's prime goal was to get kabuto into izanami which i explained in the beginning of the thread, he needed to get loops in order to form izanami. The first recording of izanami starts when kabuto first stabbed itachi, like i said itachi could had been intentionally getting hit to form the loops needed for izanami.