The biggest Misconception on NB since 2012, itachi cant beat dsm kabuto

Prince Charles

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In this thread i will back up my reasoning and logic as to why i believe a living itachi has the potential or can defeat dsm kabuto, you can choose to troll me and post silly pathetic memes or you can choose to actually take into consideration of what i have to say and post some logical arguments.

A living itachi would had died already because he got stabbed to many times against kabuto, False.I first want to make this claim invalid because i simply dont believe its true, if we take into consideration of itachi's true goal of getting hit it actually makes sense, If anything itachi got hit intentionally to prepare Izanami

In order to prepare izanami itachi needed to create loops to trap kabuto in, the scan i present you is the first recording that itachi's uses for Izanami which leads me to believe he actually got hit intentionally a few times to set up the preparation for izanami.

Shunshin blitz out classing DSM kabuto's sensing and other enhanced abilities.
Itachi is able to shunshin feint clone speed blitz a DSM kabuto
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This saids alot about his hand seal speed and speed movement wise, considering kabuto even praised his own sensing abilities yet he still fell victim to a clone feint shushin speed blitz from itachi.
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Why i believe An living Itachi would had barely gotten hit from kabuto's attacks.
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As kabuto mentions itachi uses his time to protect sasuke of himself which made him slower, not that he was able to notice and react to the attack quicker and faster than sasuke which adds more to his reaction time feats.


If anything they both cancel out each other, mainly itachi does with the use of reading his intentions with his sharigan
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The sharigans prediction abilities, but the body must be able to keep up.
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Look at what rock lee saids, the sharigan is basically useless if the wielder himself cannot keep up.
What does this mean? ill tell you

Notices that sasuke had trouble reading Bee's movements with his 7 sword style and eventually got hit.
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But! that isnt the case with Itachi as seeing he was able to keep up with Bee the whole time even when bee was using his 7 sword style technique on itachi and itachi still managed to track all his movements and evade swiftly away from bee without a scratch.
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Dat itachi
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This means that Itachi's reflexes and reaction time are no joke indeed and IMO evading DSm's kabutos attacks will be a easy task for him primarily due to the fact that the sharigan gives it user tremendous detail of their opponents movements and motions and projectiles, with that detail it extrapolates images of the next movement in the sequence. ( shout to owarij he actually helped me regarding this aspect of my post)

Dsm kabuto not keeping up with Itachi, as i said showed you in a earlier scan with itachi using a feint crow clone and a shushin speed blitz on dsm kabuto with enhanced sensing abilities.
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here we see 3 grown uchiha members with 3 tomeo sharigan which in a few moments all get owned within a matter of seconds by Itachi.
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Now considering all 3 were grown and were part of the uchiha military police force its safe to presume that their 3tomeo sharigan were fully matured to a certain extent and they were able to read taijutsu movements. Question, how did they possibly not read itachi's movements? you'd think that 3 sharigan wielder would be able to keep up with one uchiha member at that time but they couldnt,Which only hypes up itachi's speed and taijutsu

Dsm kabuto aint laying a hand on Itachi let alone keeping track of his movements considering he failed to do so in their fight.
Now I admit that with kabutos quick generation abilities, phyiscal attacks wont be of much use from itachi which is why he will have to resort to His totsuka blade with a quick body flicker combo.
Speed feats to support this totsuka blade one shot body flicker claim


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One moment Itachi is on the pillar, kid sasuke turns around and he isnt there near instantly

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Itachi kicks kurenai to a considerable distance and he is still on the bridge and the next panel he is behind her.

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Itachi shunshins over to naruto and bee, now due to km narutos sensing abilities he was able to notice, but bee still had question mark and exclamation point due to itachi's amazing speed.

Now i know that itachi nor naruto were fighting seriously but itachi being able to still keep up with km naruto in taijutsu and land that kick on him still.

Notice when itachi does a kick on km naruto you see bee behind itachi about to hit him with samehada but itachi click evades it while he was paying attention to km naruto and return back to nagato unharmed
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How itachi can utilize his body flicker and shadow clone to perform a quick totsuka blade one hit wonder on DSM kabuto

we are all aware of the fact that itachi has practically the fastest hand jutsu speed in the manga as he rightfully should.
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Now i know that kakashi is able to counter this in the next panel so theres no need to get slick, but itachi's hand speed hype still holds according by kurenai and kakashi himself.
Note that kakashi saids my eyes arent even able to keep up with him

Yet in the chuunin exmans kakashi was able to feel the sensation from lee in gatses mode
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One could argue that kakashi was merely referring to itachis handspeed but please do remember that itachi wasnt standing still the whole time either way its something to think about, now let me explain the whole totsuka blade combo shotter on kabuto

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Now remember how itachi used a clone feint crow clone right? instead of a crow clone he can use a clone explosion technique on kabuto the same one he used on kakashi and kurenai

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Not only will this injure Dsm kabuto for a moment or two but due to the explosion and smoke it will give itachi a chance to quick shunshin blitz over to kabuto or simply behind him and end it there with a totsuka blade, itachi sort of also used this strategy against nagato when they fought, he used the explosion of the CT due to his yaska magnatams and rasenshuriken and bees TBB and quickly hit nagato the moment it was available.

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Itachi used the smoke to his advantage also against nagato, he shall do the same thing against kabuto with his clone explosion and seize his opportunity to use his totsuka blade.

Itachi mastered the sharigan at 8 years old
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A man with feats like this falling prone to sneak attacks? wait what?

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He one shots 2 naruto clones from behind him without even looking, Dsm kabuto aint itachi a living itachi.

To counter white rage it seems if you have a strong enough will it seems you can come out of it, considering edo itachi was effected by it but still managed to put him his sussano to protect sasuke.


please stop with this blasphemy saying itachi has low stamina and low chakra reserves

the main used genjutsu for nearly half the fight against sasuke, amaterasu for a considerable amount of time, tysukuyomi, katon techs, shadow clones, sussano does this sound like the man has low chakra reserves they are actually above normal.

Regarding his stamina even with being near blind itachi dodges manages to evade 2 wind mill shurikens, yes i know in the next page sasuke uses wire to make one stab him in the leg.


Even with a leg injury due to the shuriken itachi is still able to evade the katon attack from sasuke that is basically right in front of his face.



Itachi stumbles onto the floor yet is still able to quickly react to sasuke katon dragon attack not a second earlier.


Low stamina? haha, dont let the databook score for itachi stamina fool you that sneaky kishi.

All in all alive itachi stands a pretty good chance against dsm kabuto and has the potential to defeat him. Add his great shunshin body flicker feats and quick thinking and reaction time i find it hard that kabuto will easily get hits on him, considering his chakra control also ( having the mangkeyo sharigan for how many years without going blind? :rolleyes:) itachi will not stupidly waste his jutsu.

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You heard it from Kabuto himself. :cool: Dat itachi
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I know some of you will try to discredit some of itachis feats in his edo form but dont bother trying, all of itachis speed feats and reaction time and stuff in his edo form he has shown to be capable of doing in his living form
 

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Holy shit. You wrote a novel. Tell us how you really feel haha
 

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After reading everything, i had something to say: "Fanboys had spoken! Itachi rules"
This has some logical reasons but Kishi can change anything and he who has to obey fanboys.
 

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Note that is an actual thread, with evidence backing it up. Any character bashing, and comments saying "Tl:Dr" will be reported.

Be grateful to that a thread has appeared without the usual trolling we see from Itachi fanboys.



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This pic is just too awesome

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Oh my lord... too damn long bro. But good points.
 

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Interesting. No mention of;

> Mugen Onsa
> Senpō: Hakugeki

No real exploration of Kabuto's abilities. One sided.
 

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Bro.... Seriously.... There was no need to waste your time and energy on proving Itachi >>>> DSM Kabuto.... =D =D
DSM or normal.... Kabuto is fodder anyways compared to 4 Hokages,Itachi,Naruto,Nagato,Orochimaru,Jiraiya,
Madara and Obito.... =D =D
 
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Prince Charles solos once again.
 

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Wow...that was long...And what the hell was up with the sharingan being able to read intentions out of no where? Why the hell does it have so many abilities??? But then agian....Kabuto said only itachi's eyes could do that since he had such powerful eyes
 
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Interesting. No mention of;

> Mugen Onsa
> Senpō: Hakugeki

No real exploration of Kabuto's abilities. One sided.

lol? one sided explain, i mentioned how itachi body flicker feint clones and hand seal speed would render most of kabutos attacks.
 

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He can beat DSM Kabuto but, can he beat DSM Kabuto with 30+ Edos?
 

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Truth be told, they both have the potential to defeat each other. In most scenarios, I say Kabuto takes it but I'd be lying if I said Itachi doesn't stand a chance defeating Kabuto. The both of them going all out against each other (neither went all out in their cave fight) would certainly make for a good fight, they're right next to each other in my top 10
 

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Wow...that was long...And what the hell was up with the sharingan being able to read intentions out of no where? Why the hell does it have so many abilities???

Sasuke could do that during Naruto vs Sasuke at the end of Part 1.... That's one of Sharingan abilities.... =D =D
 

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Not going to talk this much about that fight since i thought everything was clear, but i would like to talk about this point:
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As kabuto mentions itachi uses his time to protect sasuke of himself which made him slower, not that he was able to notice and react to the attack quicker and faster than sasuke which adds more to his reaction time feats.[/B]​
Actually the one who saw nothing here is Itachi. If you read carefully what Kabuto says, he says it himself that he had no intention to attack Sasuke from the start, so Itachi protecting Sasuke there was useless since the attack was not even going in Sasuke's direction, which shows a flaw in his perception skills. Maybe Sasuke in the contrary knew that, reason why he didn't even try to protect himself U_U
 

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He can beat DSM Kabuto but, can he beat DSM Kabuto with 30+ Edos?

No one can. This is why when people mention Kabuto, they usually seclude the edos.

reading intentions? As in predicting movements? If that's the case, then that's alright. Bu I mean like reading their emotions...

Emotions can be read through someone's body language quite easily.
 

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Probably one of the better threads i've read here on NB in months, yes months. I have also made a post about this a long time ago but I can't be bothered to dig it up. Nice thread.

Like said, both have the ability to defeat each other and it is a hard one.
 
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All Kabuto has to do is Sound Genjutsu and its over.
 
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