The big bang meets the big crunch

[Bronze]

Ironically, the Quran makes a mention of something related to the Big Bang: “And the heaven We created with might, and indeed We are (its) expander.” (Quran 51:47) - obviously being that the universe at one point exploded and to this day is expanding as a result. The question is: what happened before the Big Bang? Atheists cannot answer it. Now as a Muslim, I believe the Quran is a direct word of God and it was revealed 1,400 years ago. Therefore, the Big Bang is a result of God.

 

[Cornson]

what we call "red shift" disproved the big crunch and confirmed that the big bang model is correct.

 

[Reraru]

Why don't scientist explain where that atom came from? Allah created the universe. Tch stupid scientist.

 

[BLAZE]

Why don't scientist explain where that atom came from? Allah created the universe. Tch stupid scientist.

this had me rofl

 

[Torche]

this had me rofl

Ikr? My reaction:

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Could be either one, but could also be neither. :bdpf:

 

[Reraru]

this had me rofl

Ikr? My reaction:

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Could be either one, but could also be neither. :bdpf:

Whatever.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Ironically, the Quran makes a mention of something related to the Big Bang: “And the heaven We created with might, and indeed We are (its) expander.” (Quran 51:47) - obviously being that the universe at one point exploded and to this day is expanding as a result. The question is: what happened before the Big Bang? Atheists cannot answer it. Now as a Muslim, I believe the Quran is a direct word of God and it was revealed 1,400 years ago. Therefore, the Big Bang is a result of God.

Basically this​

 

[Ririchiyo Sama]

this had me rofl

Ikr? My reaction:

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Could be either one, but could also be neither. :bdpf:

Indeed you are the ones whose hearts have been sealed.

 

[BLAZE]

Indeed you are the ones whose hearts have been sealed.

Thanks for telling :lol

 

[Ririchiyo Sama]

Thanks for telling :lol

No problem. Lol

 

[Funky Tiger]

Indeed you are the ones whose hearts have been sealed.

Its your brain that is sealed lol. By a book. It keeps you from actually thinking about stuff. I am not against believing in a higher power, even I believe in god but I don't let my religion's holy book influence every ****ing decision about every ****ing topic ever. Its not the word of god, its the word of humans who thought they understood the word of god.

 

[Excālibur1]

If the universe is expanding outwards, it is expanding in relation to time. So if it does start to shrink up, the time would start to go backwards. No?

 

[Multiply]

Ironically, the Quran makes a mention of something related to the Big Bang: “And the heaven We created with might, and indeed We are (its) expander.” (Quran 51:47) - obviously being that the universe at one point exploded and to this day is expanding as a result. The question is: what happened before the Big Bang? Atheists cannot answer it. Now as a Muslim, I believe the Quran is a direct word of God and it was revealed 1,400 years ago. Therefore, the Big Bang is a result of God.

Broken logic detected: Because you don't know the answer, God automatically did it.

Also, you're asking the wrong people questions. Atheists aren't scientists. Atheists don't all believe in the big bang. Atheists simply don't believe in a deity. That is their only distinction.

 

[Ririchiyo Sama]

Its your brain that is sealed lol. By a book. It keeps you from actually thinking about stuff. I am not against believing in a higher power, even I believe in god but I don't let my religion's holy book influence every ****ing decision about every ****ing topic ever. Its not the word of god, its the word of humans who thought they understood the word of god.

Well enjoy being ignorant then.

 

[Cornson]

Well enjoy being ignorant then.

if anyone is being ignorant it would be you right?

sins he is willing to look at other sources other than just his holy book, where you are not?

 

[Floydical]

If the universe is expanding outwards, it is expanding in relation to time. So if it does start to shrink up, the time would start to go backwards. No?

No it would not. Time is independent of events occurring in the universe, so no matter what is occurring within it, time always flows naturally forward. The potential 'shrinking' of the universe would not reverse time. In fact, in a cyclic universe of Big Bangs and Big Crunches, time ever moving forward would be a requirement.

 

[Bronze]

Broken logic detected: Because you don't know the answer, God automatically did it.

The answer is we have two sources of information: Religion and science - science which hypothesises that the universe is expanding as a result of an explosion, and religion, the Quran giving a statement 1,400 years ago about the Big Bang, while simultaneously stating that it is a word of God, so I'm going to believe two legitimate sources of information.

Also, you're asking the wrong people questions. Atheists aren't scientists. Atheists don't all believe in the big bang. Atheists simply don't believe in a deity. That is their only distinction.

Basically, you have a belief and you can't prove it? Wow...

 

[Cornson]

Basically, you have a belief and you can't prove it? Wow...

No, that is not correct, it's the other way around.

you claimed he have a belief where he does not belief in the existence of a deity.

which is not the case.

he is saying atheist lack a belief in a deity (that is what makes one a atheist, if you don't have a belief in a deity, you lack it, if you don't believe you are a none-believer, as in a atheist)

there is nothing more to it.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

We don't know where the singularity (not atom, totally different concepts) came from. But saying "God Did It" is an inherently flawed argument, because then you have the question "Where did God come from" to which the usual answer is "He always was, he didn't come from anywhere" or in other words "I don't know either"

 

[Funky Tiger]

Well enjoy being ignorant then.

well here is what the "holy book" (im using this in a very loose sense because no one expects any hindu to follow every syllable of the vedas) talks about the beginning of the universe

The Rig Veda questions the origin of the cosmos in: "Neither being (sat) nor non-being was as yet. What was concealed? And where? And in whose protection?…Who really knows? Who can declare it? When was it born, and when came this creation? The devas were born later than this world's creation, so who knows from where it came into existence? None can know from where creation has arisen, and whether he has or has not produced it. He who surveys it in the highest heavens, He alone knows-or perhaps does not know." (Rig Veda 10. 129)

and here's another snippet:

In Hindu cosmology the universe is cyclically created and destroyed in the timespan of 8.64 billion years. Deeply rooted in Hindu literature including Vedas and Puranas, it is believed time is divided into four epochs or Yuga, of which we occupy the final. In roughly 432,000 years the final Avatar Kalki will end time. Narayana destroys all this existence while creating a new existence. Time starts over.

The Rig Veda's view of the cosmos also sees one true divine principle self-projecting as the divine word, Vaak, 'birthing' the cosmos that we know, from the monistic Hiranyagarbha or Golden Womb. The universe is considered to constantly expand since creation and disappear into a thin haze after billions of years.[citation needed] An alternate view is that the universe begins to contract after reaching its maximum expansion limits until it disappears into a fraction of a millimeter.[citation needed] The creation begins anew after billions of years (Solar years) of non-existence.

I am not the one who is ignorant, for I do not blindly follow whatever some sacred text my ancestors wrote, even though the Hindu version of how the universe was created is the closest to the Big Bang Theory. Keep your mind open. Its nice that you follow your Quran faithfully but don't let it dictate how you see the world.