-The Almighty Genjutsu-

[kaztah]

But in the manga said that the 9 bijuu's are came from jubii. If your predictions are true, how it happen? I wonder why it be.

 

[|Apathy|]

I couldn't understand it properly,
where does the loop start and end
Toad sage is old he can't remember newly introduced naruto well.
and naruto is very dumb so body in naruto verse thinks that he can become rikudousennin level he doesn't give such impression.
you are saying tobi escaped great genjustu from the start, WTF? you mean he is living from start and how can he escape ?

The loop starts once the current timeline ends, so everything after that is recycled. The theory states the reason the Great Toad Sage cannot remember Naruto, is because of the repressive memories properties of the genjutsu. Tobi was born from the Elder Son's family sometime after before being formally called the Uchiha. And Tobi only escaped the genjutsu after several loops had past, it took him some time to become the "necessary evil" that would allow him to escape from the genjutsu. Knowing it would start again he had develop many Orochimaru like experiments and jutsu to live on to the next loop (Zetsu may have been part of this). Since Tobi fulfilled the requirement, for breaking the genjutsu, it made sure that "another Tobi" could not be created.

 

[mrblue1989arwar1234]

nkjkjkjkjkjk

 

[Zygomic]

Sounds like a really good theory. Can't wait to see what happens ^^

 

[Forsberg]

I should have lit candles reading it, that was beautiful.

+rep & 5 stars.

Could Tobi have encouraged Itachi to massacre his clan to reach that very necessary evil?

 

[gameove]

nice + reps

 

[resurrection]

Great theory. + rep for theory and another + for nice writing.

I would rather like to think that, Tobi is nothing but the creation of S06p himself to keep an eye over the war-prone ninja world and may be S06p revived in some future in the Naruto world, not through Naruto but by TObi.......

 

[Dr Dark Knight]

This is all pure speculation about the timeline of Naruto, so keep that in mind while reading. Also I figured some people will through it to side and dismiss it as nonsense. These are the some that through the possibility of a Ten-Tails or Karin being an Uzumaki to the side and dismiss it as well. All in all, I would encourage you to keep an open mind while reading. For those, who dislike reading long texts I have included a concise summary at the end of this post.

Forever Rivals:

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After reading some theories here on the base, I began pondering over the fact how the author has Naruto setup as being the new Rikudou Sennin. This made me question how the author was going to keep Sasuke as Naruto’s equivalent, for the Rikudou Sennin defeats all Shinobi in the Naruto Universe simply because he is an analogous to a God; therefore a God can handle any adversary that comes his way right? It’s presuming, but that isn’t always the case. The only know adversary to have been on an equal level and clashed with the Sage is the Juubi, and it seems to me that Sasuke may very well be the incarnation. This is the only way for the author to keep Sasuke as Naruto’s equivalent, with the implications the story has been giving thus far, there is no better suited analogy than Sasuke to being the incarnation of the Juubi.

A Legendary Battle With Eternal Consequences:

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The battle concerning the Sage and the Juubi is believed of many in the Naruto World as a simple legend. This legend however, may hold the very validity of the world, but unfortunately it is recondite; therefore it may be shrouded with the glimmering truths of the world and the sorrowful portentous secrets of it as well. As I was rereading some chapter, I realized something important, why the Great Toad Sage couldn’t remember who Naruto was, the Great Toad Sage has seemingly been alive for hundreds, and possibly thousands of years and for him not remember the Naruto with all the implications of him being the Sage is surprisingly awkward. This leads me to suspect that maybe the Juubi did something to the world before being either sealed into the Rikudou Sennin or cast to the moon. I’ve been thinking that the Juubi may have possibly placed the world in some sort of genjutsu. The genjutsu that was cast was a genjutsu that focuses on and targets the inhabitant’s memories and represses them making it so nothing has any recollection of much if anything at all; thus keeping them in a time loop.

A Possible End:

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I was thoughtful about how could this be turned around- in a sense of escaping this genjutsu and wouldn’t it eventually fade away. The answer to the former, may have been becoming the embodiment of all this is destructive, bad, damaging, etc. once that was done that ‘being ‘ could escape the genjutsu and be free from its hold over them, but not the time loop they were in. To answer the latter if whether or not the genjutsu would eventually fade away, the Juubi must have done something to keep its influenced over the world, one speculation was just by having it’s charka in the world, the genjutsu would continue to maintain its properties. Thinking about it in a certain sense, the timeline of Naruto doesn’t make any sense; there are certain gaps in the story that are just too great to be ignored such as the Elder Son vs. the Younger Son, but the greatest is Tobi’s existence.

Naruto's Narrative:

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It seems the story of Naruto follows a presumably disjointed narrative or a nonlinear timeline, it doesn’t follow the beginning, but instead Naruto in particular picks up the story in the middle; when we see Naruto being born-then is where it starts. To elaborate more on this narrative it usually uses a great deal of flashbacks and the point of view from different characters (more was used in part one then in part two, but the general rules still applies). Certainly if the author is using this technique for the story of Naruto, then the time loop concept for it could certainly fit in as well. The only problem would be is piecing it all together, and due to the nature of how this topic was approached, it’s an entire new concept.

The One Who Has Seen It All:

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There was a person who escaped the genjutsu. He goes by a mononymous name “Tobi.” Tobi was able to break the genjutsu, by becoming the embodiment of evil. Tobi was acutely aware of the loop, but could not stop it the world from repeating the loop time, as such he was forced to retain his memories of a world subjugated to countless wars. After witnessing this countless times, he grew to be misanthropic, which soundly lead him to his resolve that he has to forcefully bring about peace. After many years of precaution planning, Tobi met with strong shinobis and found one shinobi in particular whose power could be used to further his plans. Tobi teamed up with this exceptional doujutsu wielder, but keep him in the dark of the vast majority of his plans. Tobi made sure to only tell his accomplice the end goal of this plan, and it was steadily put into motion. Tobi would later reveal this scheme to be the “Eye of the Moon Plan,” which he subjectively hopes will stop the world from repeating the loop, and instead place it in his own genjutsu.

Summary:

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Concise Summary: I believe that before the Juubi was sealed or cast to the moon, it set a genjutsu on the world as part as its curse. This genjutsu put all of the inhabitants of the planet and a loop, and in a repressive state where they could not remember anything from the previous loop. It also claims Sasuke as being the Juubi, and Naruto the Rikudou Sennin.

It could also be a point, that in order to stop the loop, Tobi tried to finish the Uchiha clan, by helping Itachi. He knew Itachi was ill and would ultimately die. so the loop would be broken if one of the 2 forces, so6p or the juubi was ended from the world. well that didnt happed because sasuke didnt die..

also, if your theory has to make sense, the juubi should be naruto because the juubi had the highest stores of chakra, and so6p should be sasuke. because of the eye powers. and sasuke has to win, as so6p was the man with great doujutsu, engulfed the beast with great chakra.

'Varrah' please comment.

 

[Tsuki]

Awesome theory as alway, would +rep u again if I could xd

 

[Varrah]

Here this is, this Genjutsu made possible by Izanami. The Datara is using this to teach mankind. ​