The 1st hokage and Naruto...What you think of them?

[Nagi]

I think the 1st hokage and Naruto are terrible and unrealistic. They was only able to achieve their dreams due to their godly strength. They was destined for greatness. Neji's speech about it was right the whole time. Switch Naruto and the 1st hokage with anybody else(not sasuke or Madara or itachi), they wouldn't be able to pull off half of the shit they done. That's why they're unrealistic.

They're giving out this false illusion of everybody can be save and that there is no such thing of making a hard decision. Through out all manga and non-cannon movies, you see Naruto questioning or not listening to the 5th hokage or kakashi when they give out order or say this is must be done. Naruto is promoting the idea of if you don't agree with your leader, go behind their back and do whatever you think is right.

Naruto is indirectly hurting others by saving them or not letting them have it their way. That's selfish and make him no different from any other villain.

What you think of them? (beside their godly power)

 

[A$AP Wap]

they're cool

 

[Omar19992010]

The entirety of Naruto is unrealistic. Nobody in real life can transform into people and make clones of themselves.

Spoiler

In All Seriousness, You're wrong on two accounts it wasn't because of Hashirama's strength he was able to make peace it was because of him working together with People particularly Madara and the two of them founding the Leaf Village that led to peace same with Naruto. If he didn't try to save Sasuke there would still be conflict between them.

Naruto is promoting the idea of if you don't agree with your leader, go behind their back and do whatever you think is right.

Naruto is indirectly hurting others by saving them or not letting them have it their way. That's selfish and make him no different from any other villain.

When has Naruto ever done that?

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

I think they're inspiring. Naruto was never destined to do anything. The frog said that he'd either be a savior or bring great destruction. Naruto is promoting the idea of doing what you believe is right, which is much better than just following orders. The fact is Naruto trained hard regardless of whether he was aware of his "destiny". He didn't care for anyone who tried to bring him down, he would just prove them wrong.

 

[Adam Driver]

I think that this is just a work of fiction and that theres nothing wrong portraying that everyone can be saved in a work of fiction.
Let me repeat again, this is fiction.

 

[Nagi]

The entirety of Naruto is unrealistic. Nobody in real life can transform into people and make clones of themselves.

:NO: no shit. Im just saying that they're too unrealistic compare to all other anime leader characters.

 

[Adam Driver]

I think they're inspiring. Naruto was never destined to do anything. The frog said that he'd either be a savior or bring great destruction. Naruto is promoting the idea of doing what you believe is right, which is much better than just following orders. The fact is Naruto trained hard regardless of whether he was aware of his "destiny". He didn't care for anyone who tried to bring him down, he would just prove them wrong.

Agreed

 

[Nagi]

I think they're inspiring. Naruto was never destined to do anything. The frog said that he'd either be a savior or bring great destruction. Naruto is promoting the idea of doing what you believe is right, which is much better than just following orders. The fact is Naruto trained hard regardless of whether he was aware of his "destiny". He didn't care for anyone who tried to bring him down, he would just prove them wrong.

Which make him no different from all these so call villains in the NV. I hope his son have a different view on the word "peace" than him.

 

[Adam Driver]

Which make him no different from all these so call villains in the NV. I hope his son have a different view on the word "peace" than him.

The villains in NV were murdering innocent people and destroying villages >.>

 

[Praydara]

I think you're half-right. Kishi definitely muddled things up with the whole reincarnation bit, which made it difficult to really tell how much of their work was really important at all. I think, ultimately, Naruto's power didn't come from reincarnation. He wouldn't be nearly as powerful as he is now without Kurama, Jiraiya, Kakashi, Killer Bee, and all the others who helped him. If the reincarnation thing has to come in, it's a story about someone whose relationships helped him reach his full potential. Hashirama... I can't really say much about him, we didn't see most of his past, but I like him and assume he became powerful through similar means.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Which make him no different from all these so call villains in the NV. I hope his son have a different view on the word "peace" than him.

There is literally no better answer.

If a guy was trying to stab you, would you let him since you don't want to impose?

Naruto is doing what everyone does. It's what human beings do. When we don't agree with something we try to show them the "right" way. It's how we raise our children.

At least Naruto got the villains to agree willingly.

 

[Nagi]

The entirety of Naruto is unrealistic. Nobody in real life can transform into people and make clones of themselves.

Spoiler

In All Seriousness, You're wrong on two accounts it wasn't because of Hashirama's strength he was able to make peace it was because of him working together with People particularly Madara and the two of them founding the Leaf Village that led to peace same with Naruto. If he didn't try to save Sasuke there would still be conflict between them.



When has Naruto ever done that?

You can't say no to the strongest shinobi. However, Hashirama was willing to lead people more than naruto and shared the same dream. Naruto was more of, I'll do it myself type guy until itachi hit him with that speech.

then since 1st hokage's death, the hidden leaf village had no problem in doing whatever it take to get what they want. If the 2nd and 3rd hokage was as strong as the first hokage, more people would still be alive during those wars. 3rd hokage tried to be as peaceful as the 1st hokage, but other villages don't see him as a major threat as the 1st hokage.

Throughout the whole manga, Naruto never listen to the 5th hokage or Kakashi when they give him an order that he don't agree with. He need to learn to shut up and do whatever your leader order you to do. He only do what they say if it don't get in the way of his own personal way of doing thing.

 

[Nagi]

There is literally no better answer.

If a guy was trying to stab you, would you let him since you don't want to impose?

Naruto is doing what everyone does. It's what human beings do. When we don't agree with something we try to show them the "right" way. It's how we raise our children.

At least Naruto got the villains to agree willingly.

if a guy was trying to stab me, I'll kill him. But if I was strong as naruto, I will just disable him. The different from naruto and me in that moment, I won't act all like a saint.

He is not being Human. Human don't beat other people and act like a saint!

Yeah after whooping their asses. You either agree with me or keep taking a beating until you're agree. That is the way of Naruto.

 

[Nagi]

I think you're half-right. Kishi definitely muddled things up with the whole reincarnation bit, which made it difficult to really tell how much of their work was really important at all. I think, ultimately, Naruto's power didn't come from reincarnation. He wouldn't be nearly as powerful as he is now without Kurama, Jiraiya, Kakashi, Killer Bee, and all the others who helped him. If the reincarnation thing has to come in, it's a story about someone whose relationships helped him reach his full potential. Hashirama... I can't really say much about him, we didn't see most of his past, but I like him and assume he became powerful through similar means.

As kids, Madara already stated that Hashirama is stronger than him and he didn't appear to be as dumb as naruto.

 

[Nagi]

The villains in NV were murdering innocent people and destroying villages >.>

The hidden leaf village done the same shit. The problem is Naruto is trying to rock that white hat to the fullest when that hidden leaf village is full of gray and black hats.

Naruto thinks he is too good to ever cross the line to put on a gray or black hat.

 

[Adam Driver]

if a guy was trying to stab me, I'll kill him. But if I was strong as naruto, I will just disable him. The different from naruto and me in that moment, I won't act all like a saint.

He is not being Human. Human don't beat other people and act like a saint!

Yeah after whooping their asses. You either agree with me or keep taking a beating until you're agree. That is the way of Naruto.

Your saying Naruto had the option to apprehend the villains in NV as if they were some guy with a knife in real life..

 

[HiddenSound]

Hashirama is annoying as shit and a carbon copy of Goku.
Naruto is aight. But sometimes he's unbearable.

 

[Nagi]

Your saying Naruto had the option to apprehend the villains in NV as if they were some guy with a knife in real life..

No what i'm saying is He shouldn't be acting all like a saint and act like he understand them when clearly he is far stronger than them all. Naruto can go around and beat anyone he want. Just don't kick them when they're down and tell them what they're doing is wrong. He cannot possibly fathom know what it feel like to be powerless like them, which made them into villains. he's a hypocrite.

 

[Xlad]

Even as a Naruto fan, I still find a few cringed moments here and there. But I still find him much more bearable than Hashirama.

 

[Adam Driver]

The hidden leaf village done the same shit. The problem is Naruto is trying to rock that white hat to the fullest when that hidden leaf village is full of gray and black hats.

Naruto thinks he is too good to ever cross the line to put on a gray or black hat.

Not just the hidden leaf but other villages as well and I'll repeat innocent lives were taken from the villages by these villains, please list where Naruto killed or destroyed innocent lives or threatened peace. And your making a claim as if Naruto just brushed aside the fact that the hidden leaf has done bad things along as other villages, he knows that and he changed the old way when villages were against one another harming innocent people. You should put these claims against Danzo who seeked to destroy the Uchiha instead of trying to give Itachi and Shisui a chance to seize the attack